I'm not pulling out the necro to run a parse. I've reached the point where I simply don't care anymore - it's like a bad job - time to move on. Also it is simple math. I never said you dont' cast dots because out of skelly summon you really don't have anything else, I just said there isn't enough time for it to be effective. I run a sk, ench, 3 mage group or I run a pal, ench, 3 wiz group now. I encourage you to do your group parse, I also encourage you to run it with a combination of any 2 of the following: mage, wiz, berserker. You'll find a big hit to your dps. Also my mage and wiz are not endless mana like the necro but they are pretty damn close. I can run 35-40 minutes before med break. So yeah, what's the point of having limitless mana when you can do that? Run your parse if you need to see it but the mechanics of a dot and avg length of a group mob in a high dps group show the pain point very obviously on it's own.