Balance Legends Initiative

Taps in general weren't upped, so it has made just tapping far less effective with TF. That's part of what I used him to test out yesterday or the day before.

Less damage doesn't mean less supercharge for his Harvey Dom, unless I missed something?

It make a it harder to get kills without counters. And less kills does mean less SC.

Steel is so hard to play now. Two hand is so much harder to use in Legends in general now.

So is Harley Quinn.
Two Handed got a major shaft

Good news Cheetah's modified MA apparently got super buffed.

Now it looks like FNL is going to be filled with Catwoman and Shazam.

Because Steel was low tier and two handed was never a good weapon.

I know it got super buffed.
Im not that excited about it because it takes her learning curve away.

And oh great. Then we have the stagnant Amazonians and the forever weak Kryptonians..
all except Supergirl.

Not really, no. She still requires skill. Some don't know how to use her berserker correctly, let alone that it exists.

I doubt it

Just yesterday I ran into a Cheetah that used her shield after counters instead of when she was in berserker mode.

Cheetah... that berserker of hers... it's a true life saver. I know this isn't the place for it, but why is she considered mid tier instead of upper mid? (Especially thanks to that 50% buff)

Not counting the learning curve

It would be because of the zerk. If she's upper mid, it'd be because of the weapon changes.

Her lunge, her axle kick, and her spinning punch can all easily hit 1.1k without zerk.

Ready my post again, I specifically stated if she's upper mid tier now it's because of the weapon changes that allow it to deal more damage, not because of zerk.

Yes. And I mentioned the weapon damage WITHOUT the berserk. So it is the weapon changes, not the zerk.

I brought this up the other day on the tier guide thing I maintain. She's clearly better enough now to outclass most of the mid tier characters. The real question in my mind is whether she can keep up with the other Upper Mid characters. Most of them also got a weapon buff, either HB (Circe, Fate, Faust) or Brawling (Atrocitus, Supergirl). The whole Upper Mid tier moved up a bit in my mind. I'm not sure whether Cheetah's large buff was enough for her to catch up. (I don't really have a real opinion; I never play her)

Good. Cheetah got buffed. Still... doesn't feel that unique anymore

Now, Weak lanterns (Im looking at you Saint, Arkillo, and Kilowog)

Weak Kryptonians (Power Girl, Superman, Zod, Ursa)

What are we gonna do about those?
How can you make them better?

And of course, the always in WW Shadow Amazons.
im looking at you Wonder Girl and Donna Troy.

So then we angrily agree with each other

This is the other thing that I'm thinking as well. Either way I'm gonna wait a little while bit to see if they adjust some of the regular weapon combos, because some are totally out of line it seems.

I don't get why "watched threads" don't give you alert notifications after a certain point.

I just read it. You make a good point about Cheetah having to be able to compete with the other Upper Mid tier legends.