I know enough about the issue by the title and last few responses. If I said anything anyone else said in response to you, my having said it without reading theirs nor your response to theirs, should only reassure the point being made. Yes, cooler hardware lasts longer. I don't think anyone is going to deny that, especially people who build their own rigs. In the same right though, people who build their own rigs specifically for gaming will also tell you that the time you're losing on hardware heat in average conditions while operating at maximum efficiency wont die before it's obsolete, assuming there's no significant physical damage to the hardware. Also, with all due respect, bring the hostility down a few notches. You're bound to create more anger than sympathy when you're insulting people who disagree with you. Of course since we've already established that my interest in pages 1 and 2 of this particular topic are minimal, if this hostility was brought on as a result of intolerance toward a genuine concern, I apologize. Still though, bring it down a notch or two.
You got all your information from the title and the last few responses? Did you miss ALL THESE THREADS? http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/98-gpu-load-character-selection-screen.61234/ http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/...t-character-select-with-2-x-7850-cards.61697/ http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/gpu-temp-increases-after-last-update.117410/ http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/character-select-ingame-gpu-temp-issues.50024/ http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/gpu-burns.90196/ "My gtx 580 likes to run hot whenever there is nothing on the screen. Map, loading, warpgate, looking a wall and such and such. It doesnt run nearly as hot during fights however." http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/...e-gpu-loading-and-cant-disable-shadows.65684/ http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/beware-of-99-gpu-load-while-idle.54532/ (cycles mchurtz responded interestingly in that) There is a guy with dual 580's who posted in my Store Screen Overheats thread http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/...lso-spikes-gpu-temps-wtf.125209/#post-1716886 It's very aggravating dealing with people who say such idiotic things as "oh its perfectly fine to run your GPU at 100% TDP for no reason other than to draw a 2D map screen, because its a glitch. Oh, and if your computer CAN handle running Furmark 24/7, but you don't WANT to, your computer sucks and you shouldn't play videogames!" Yeah, the "hostile" things basically haven't come from me except in response to that kind of stupidity, and people basically telling me to shut up when they clearly are clueless about computer hardware. Anyone who tells me I should be ok with 100% load on a GPU as a glitch in a game, and that all those people in those threads, including the ones with black screens and random reboots should stop playing this game because they can't run at 100% TDP constantly, is a genius! How could I be so stupid? LOL How bout, you direct your condescension at someone else?
The default setting for both Nvidia and AMD drivers now is to force renderahead frames of 3 or more. This directly impacts how much the graphics card processes in an attempt to fake benchmark scores (at the expense of input lag). Try setting this value to 1 (0 no longer works for either company).
I think it's really cute you get yourself all worked up about this, and then start listing hardware while trying to sound like you know what you're doing "All Japanese capacitors etc." - you don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about This will for sure get saved in my "Ohhh so cute"-hall of fame. Yes, I am experiencing this issue as well - but unlike you I think there are many other performance bugs that are much more important to get fixed. And when you continue to cry and use caps, and say "I suppose SOE should get back to really important issues though, like adding more cosmetic items to the game, right? Wow." - I'm sure you are aware that it's not the same people doing the performance fixing and the cosmetics.. right? You already knew that? You got the attention of a SOE staff, now it's time to let them do their work. So go ask your mom for a glass of milk and a cookie.
So, you don't care if your solid electrolytic capacitors are made by a reputable company? Just buy any cheap brand motherboard right? It's teh gigaHertz's's's that matters to serious overclockers like you right? LOL, talk about "cute". The thing about the capacitors is to illustrate that the truth about my computer is diametrically opposed to what you were claiming. Rather than having a cheap piece of junk, I built myself something with a lot of attention to detail, and high quality components. The fan in my PSU is also a Sanyo Denki. Go ahead and tell me that's cute too. "Not the slightest clue" huh? This from the guy who thinks that a glitch where a 2D screen that loads peoples' GPU's to 100%(and apparently is related to black screens and random reboots), and sounds awfully similar to the StarCraft 2 menu glitch(which did damage a bunch of peoples' hardware) isn't the most serious performance issue in PS2. Yeah, you sure know what you're doing if you think it's just fine to load a GPU to 100% on a 2D map that's as graphically intensive as this webpage is! Someone with your vast intellect doesn't comprehend sarcasm? That's interesting. Now go congratulate yourself some more on all the things you like to pretend you know. Oh, and this issue has been ignored for months, as you can see by the dates on the many threads about this issue I linked to.
Getting the same issue. i5-3570k and a HD6850. Decided to open my map whilst checking temps and had an instant spike of 3-5 degrees. At first I thought it was just a random spike but it does this consistently, regardless of location, as already noted when opening the map.
I am not seeing this problem with my GTX570, it drops to 50% GPU use and my temps fall... I am running 314.22 drivers.
What's your secret? The guy with the same GPU's as you has tried everything, and both of his load to 100% on the map like all these people. I've tried everything, including underclocking my GPU, Vsync is on, maxfps is 60, and reducing the maximum pre-rendered frames in my Nvidia control panel. NONE of that worked. I also have the 314.22 drivers.
No clue man.. I have everything on high with ultra textures, phsyX OFF. If it a phsyX issue? Clean your GPU fans? I get 50ish% GPU usage and my temps are around 75, it hits 76 then drops back to 75.. not seeing the issue they are.
If it was dust or any actual cooling issue, it'd be even hotter when I'm in a battle. Unless of course, the glitch has something to do with the map/2D screen. My GPU is dusted regularly, and in a very cool room, in a case with plenty of ventilation. It's also brand new, and several of my friends having the issue have brand new GPU's as well. I never see temps above 70C, in any game, unless I go to a 2D screen in Planetside 2. It's not PhysX either. I can be sitting on an elevator with the particles all around me, or watching magriders explode like fireworks, and no issue. It's the 2D screens ONLY, like the map and store page. Go to either screen, GPU loads and starts heating up.
You do realize that the GTX570 max temp is 97ºC right? The card will automatically downclock if temps hit 95ºC. 70's is normal for me while gaming on my EVGA GTX570SC (797Mhz), so it runs a bit hotter than a stock card. GTX570 specs: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-570/specifications
I understand that. What you(and a lot of other people) don't seem to get, is that with the degree of cooling I have, the GAME ITSELF doesn't make the GPU hit 70C. The MAP SCREEN'S GLITCH is the ONLY THING IN ANY GAME that loads my GPU heavily enough to actually hit 70C! Imagine what it's doing to peoples' computers that don't have the kind of cooling I do! As you can see by the number of threads I linked to, which have largely been ignored, a lot of people are having the glitch as well. If you know anything about computers(and apparently not many people who are commenting do) you'd know that cooler components last longer. This is a serious issue that needs to be fixed. People are experiencing issues with the map screen, like random reboots and black screens, and not everyone has computers that can handle 100% GPU load for extended periods of time. Remember, it's not playing the game that loads the GPU like a power virus, its JUST THE MAP OR 2D SCREEN, which should be the LEAST demanding thing to render! It's obviously a glitch! People rationalizing this glitch as being OK because the GPU's listed max temperature is 97C don't seem to realize that that's ONLY for the GPU silicon itself! That doesn't mean that all the capacitors on the graphics card itself can handle that 100% load for extended periods of time, and even if they can it's putting unnecessary wear on it for NO REASON.
But I am not seeing 100% GPU usage, I am seeing ~50%. Which is why I posted the video of it with my GPU numbers in the top left corner. If you are seeing 100% GPU usage, I agree that is a major problem, but I'm not seeing that problem on my end.
Ok, well A LOT of people are, and they're posting in threads that have been largely ignored. http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/98-gpu-load-character-selection-screen.61234/ http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/...t-character-select-with-2-x-7850-cards.61697/ http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/gpu-temp-increases-after-last-update.117410/ http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/character-select-ingame-gpu-temp-issues.50024/ http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/gpu-burns.90196/ "My gtx 580 likes to run hot whenever there is nothing on the screen. Map, loading, warpgate, looking a wall and such and such. It doesnt run nearly as hot during fights however." http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/...e-gpu-loading-and-cant-disable-shadows.65684/ http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/beware-of-99-gpu-load-while-idle.54532/ (cycles mchurtz responded interestingly in that) There is a guy with dual 580's who posted in my Store Screen Overheats thread http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/...lso-spikes-gpu-temps-wtf.125209/#post-1716886 Like those.
Not one of those threads has video proof of anyone at 100% GPU usage, which is why no one takes them seriously.. If you are in fact seeing 100% GPU use, startup your GPU monitor overlay, run fraps, get it on tape. Then post it in its own thread, then file a support ticket. It took me less than 5mins to record encode and upload that clip to youtube.. If it is true bug, lets get it fixed, first we need video proof that it a repeatable bug, or they will ignore it... That is how the bug forum works, you post video of said bug, people thumb it up, SOE checks if they can repeat the bug.
What a load of BS. Where are all the videos of people crashing to desktop constantly? Do you doubt that that happens? As soon as someone says they can't buy SC or something SOE is all over that thread! They don't need video proof in that case! Are you seriously suggesting that people have been reporting this issue for months as some kind of conspiracy? Why the **** would anyone make up such a crazy glitch? I guess all the people who's graphics cards melted from the StarCraft 2 2D menu screen bug were all making it up too... And I'm sorry, not everyone owns Fraps. I didn't realize you needed video proof of something on this tech support forum. Check if they can repeat the bug? All they need is a PC with a Geforce or Radeon in it apparently, because it's not specific to either brand of GPU, according to all these liars who are making the whole thing up! Doesn't matter anyway, all the threads basically got ignored. They have real important things to do, like satisfy people who want more stupid hats.
I have 6 hour session times without crashing and I don't get 100% GPU usage... I have a GTX570 and another computer with a Radeaon 4870, neither of my rigs see the issues you are describing.. I am trying to help you fix your issue, so I explained how the Bug forums works.. Here is a link to the sticky post on the Gameplay bug subsection of the forums if you need further clarification.. https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/how-can-i-get-my-bug-seen-read-first.111335/ Sorry you want to take it personal... BTW, Fraps free version will record 30secs of video.. Which is more than enough to record your GPU overlay showing 100% GPU usage. Also, are you people with issues running the standalone version of PS2?
Maybe it is an issue with the steam version? I am running the standalone client, which is why I asked. How about everyone else with the 100% GPU usage, you guys on steam or the standalone client?
