Final repair tool Cert worth it?

Discussion in 'Engineer' started by M4L4CH1TE, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. Ronin Oni

    ^This x1000

    This isn't WoW with dedicated Tier arenas so lvl 80's only fight lvl 80's.
  2. Ronin Oni

    You get better by playing and... *gasp* getting better.

    Meawhile you can earn up to a 20% advantage, as well as access to more toys and abilities.

    If that's not enough for you... WoW is -----> That-a-way
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  3. Highway_Star

    The 'go play WoW' thing is kinda undone by the fact that PS1 was rigged heavily against new players but it worked out.
  4. Agile

    the difference between repairing a turret at lvl 4 vs lvl 5 is precisely 2 seconds. NOT worth it.

    also, repairing at lvl 4 without letting the tool max out on red is faster than repairing on level 5 using 2 fulll cycles + red zone cooldown.
    if you push the repair tool until it maxes out you're doing it wrong
  5. Redshift

    you're welcome to watch me dick all over your lvl 40 PS1 chars with a lvl 1 noob if you want, i'd quite happily lol at you trying to kill my wow chars with lvl 1's... if you really want anyway....
  6. Highway_Star

    I really don't get it man, is it kids today that would rather quit than face a challenege?
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  7. Athanasius

    Multiply by every turret, or anything else for that matter, that you ever repair. Keeping in mind when you're not the only Engineer repairing and the extra speed might mean getting an extra XP tick versus not.

    Agreed on that last point, but again higher level tool is just faster and the pure case of repairing a fully dead turret to full health is a special case. You're more likely to be repairing things with other Engineers, things that are taking more damage and ... things that are moving, and guess what ? The higher ranks of repair tool operate to greater range.

    Personally I do not regret at all spending the 500 certs on Rank 6 (that is the highest) of the Engineer repair tool. I'm sure by now it's paid for itself many times over even if at only an extra/faster 8 or 9 XP per thing repaired.
  8. DuckSauce

    The engineer's final repair tool upgrade is one of the most boring uses of 500 certs.

    However, if you spend a lot of time with your repair tool it is well worth it.

    If you generalize a lot and don't have many certs in other classes/vehicles, I'd skip it. It's not a huge improvement but you need to weight that by how often you use your repair tool.
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  9. Blackoth

    Its the difference between being able to repair a fully dead turret in 2 bursts instead of having to start a 3rd

    If you are good with your timing, you wont hit the red zone and use only 2 bursts
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  10. Blackoth

    I dont regret getting max ammo cert or repair cert, but just for kicks i threw around a few numbers and say 2 extra ticks of 9xp it would be about 7000 turrets to make up the 500 certs lol. but i think if u are a dedicated engineer there is no question, you should max out ur certs.
  11. Ronin Oni

    No, it's FPS players who want an FPS game, not some bullschnopps that is more dependent on time spent in game ala all the idiotic RPG's
  12. Highway_Star

    I dunno, the last few BF and CoD games have been a case of 'time spent = better guns = more kills'.
  13. theholeyone

    I prefer to think of cert's use as to unlock new options for gameplay, and allow you to specialise your classes into how you want to play. In a lot of cases such as flak or health boost, rep or med gun, it is a gameplay advantage, but which one you choose still offers specialisation, rather than simply higher level owning noobs. 500certs for a rep gun is fine when comparing it to 1000 certs for flak, but no way is it even worth close to my enjoyment of my 100cert smoke grenade spammer with 30cert night vision :D
  14. InfestedAdam

    Lotsa good input here but I am still a bit hesitant on getting the rank 6 repair tool for my engineer.

    I try to think of it from how useful will it be during a really hot situation. Occasionally I've been in situations where my squad/platoon is pushed back to our spawn sundie and keeping it repaired is the only thing preventing us from wiping. But overall is the repair speed between rank 5 and rank 6 for 2-3 engineers good enough sometime to keep a sundie up while it is under major fire?

    I primarily play as a medic with the engineer as a close second. In really hot battles I have found the rank 6 healing tool to be a huge improvement over the rank 5 tool. Rezzing people 50% faster and at full health allows us letting to keep throwing bodies at the enemy and hopefully and eventually overwhelm them.

    I know keeping a sundie up is still crucial as it let the attacking/defending group to keep throwing bodies at the enemy but part of me feels be able to replenish our numbers on point to be overall more useful than keeping a spawn point up.

    I love playing support roles so I enjoy both medic and engineer role but overall will I find equal usage between a rank 6 healing tool and rank 6 repair tool purely from the point of view of keeping pressure on the enemy and throwing bodies at them?
  15. Ganjis

    I would say max rank ammo pack is more worthwhile than max rank repair tool. Max rank med tool is better than both. I mostly play engineer, but med tool was the first thing I maxed out due to the huge benefit it gives. I recently got max rank repair tool, having sat at next-to-max for ages and it does not make a huge difference. The main benefit I see from it is repairing MAXes under fire or reaparing multiple MAXes that rotate out of the fray for repairs. Everything else is usually manageable by holding off before you get heat-locked.
  16. NoctD

    If you repair turrets for certs, then yes the max rank repair tool will make your life so much better.

    Ammo cert? I don't see the point in that one at all.
  17. SirIBON

    I am an Engineer, my job is that the Hardware in the Field does the job.
    So i have to fix it. Sunderer under Fire, as ever has to survive. MAX on the Roof, or Landingpads have to be up.
    The Tool is our most important thing. So it should be a good on.
    It is expensive, but that is Flakarmour 5 also. These 2 are your best friends if you repair your Sunderer under Fire.


    Repair for Certs?
    If you Repair in Battle then you want that the Turrent can shoot and your Team an spawn and the Maxes blow Enemies down. If you Repair for Certs then do it, after you capture a Base. The Tool makes it Faster. With the Stock Tool you need more time, but you will have time Outfight.
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  18. Yerk

    If you repair a lot, YES. If you don't repair a lot, then save the certs. It's for Engineers that repair especially during fights.

    If you don't use engineer repair that often, then lvl 3 is enough. But for engineers as their main, it's a must have.
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  19. AssaultPig

    the final rank of the repair tool is one of those things that doesn't seem like a big deal before, or immediately after you cert it.

    But then you play an alt and wonder how you ever lived without it.
  20. untilted

    is it an efficient upgrade? i really doubt it.
    is it an effective upgrade? i guess so.

    faster repair means:
    - the thing you're repairing might survive another hit with just a sliver of HP left instead of ending in an explosion.
    - while you shouldn't expose yourself when repairing, sometimes it can't be prevented ... being able to get back into cover quicker, means a better chance at surviving (even if the difference in repair time is only the glimpse of an eye)

    if you're short on certs, better spend it on something different. if you want to be as effective as possible, there's likely no way around it.