People no longer feel a need to log on. SoS2 has ruined PvP and PvE -You can no longer run any group progression. Any player can leave his 105 rouge in a zone AFK and no one can do a damn thing about it. One rouge can shut down a full raid force of 40 players. -- You can no longer be rewarded for having an army. One rouge can slay them all. --- You are rewarded for being guildless and a 105 rouge. No one can see you. You can kill and insta-gate freely. Why should we continue to play on Zek? -How do we justify to a new player that a rouge can zone in and kill them but they cannot kill the rouge EVER ; Knowing full well the new player cannot see or defend himself in any way against a rouge, how do we encourage them to stay and play?? The ONLY people who are cheering for the rouge SoS2 to continue are rouges who are either guild less or in a small time group guilds...its been a buffet for them. -If the goal is to satisfy the few and chase away the many. Just tell us you intend on leaving SoS2 as it stands now and we are happy to retire from the game. --Or fix it ; We are happy to move on and play our game again.
I find it hilarious Zekster exaggerates so much. Retaliation deals with just as many rogues as Wudan does, if not more. In fact, we have to deal with Evolved, who openly warps in pvp. The difference is if a Wudan rogue comes into a zone with Retaliation, the rogue may get a kill, but then he gates out or dies. Retaliation then proceeds to continue with life and continues doing our thing in the zone. Suck it up buttercup. You are showing how weak you and your guild are. You guys always spam how you are going to exploit mage pets again if/when SOS2 is changed, but find no issue with that. Such pansies rofl.
How long have i been saying "Wudans like a hometown buffet" long before sos2 im not sure if you are just submitting or taking the blinders off, its a beautiful thing to watch.
Checking back in to see if any of the Devs have made any kind of statement or comment. The void..................
Bronut negects to mention the fact that Retaliation used the same tactics in Health that he described in his post. He would get in gen chat and QQ about faction while they actually had toons in the zone factioning lol. I guess the real issue was Retaliation needed more mages? ~
lol, you guys are on here looking for a silver bullet, wudan needs alot more fixing than sos2. ive seen three Wudan rogs on death streaks in the last 2 days. One of them was wandids. If sos2 is so powerful in pvp, how come wudans rogs are all on death streaks? 2 evol rogs / wandids rog desimater - all on 5 death streaks. i killed zethys rog twice last night. if ya didnt lean so hard on third party programs you may have developed a real skill-set
Lol. Rogues are dying left and right on Zek. Just hop onto the channels in the evening and listen to the bragging about killing Rogues. Who do you guilds think you're fooling. Now the hacking on Zek, that is a REAL problem the dev's need to address.
Your exaggeration is unreal and pathetic. Rogues are dying constantly on Zek. As someone mentioned earlier 2 of your rogues recently hit a 5 death streak and one hit a 10 deathstreak...but you keep talking about how rogues are unkillable. The truth is I haven't seen Wudan groups working together on this scale...EVER. Rogues have forced people to protect each other and actually put thought into what characters they bring to their groups. This wild fantasy land that Zekster is living in where rogues are walking around free as a bird killing everything in sight simply doesn't exist. They just want rogues shroud to go back to being broken where everyone has their target anytime they enter a zone. There is a reason there are so few main rogues on Zek. If you think a rogues place in pvp is to zone in for 5 seconds or less and try to round someone while everyone tries to kill him and then zone out again...that's pathetic and was the current state of things. Get real Zekster..nobodies buying your sob story.
I have been told by a senior officer in Wudan that Evolved is probably a cheater and is being watched....You don't find it odd that everytime you pvp he is used as the assist on targets for rogues?? You guys caught a cheater on video.....good. Hes not the first cheater to be caught in EITHER guild. So this high horse stuff is getting kinda old. I'm all for kicking out the cheaters..but a lot of you just call hacks on anyone, anytime your rogues die. So quick question, if rogues are soooo OP. How come there are 3 wudan rogues now with deathstreaks, yours being one of them? Are we going to claim that everyone is cheating now???
As I have always said, Wudan is a one trick pony in pvp. They put mass mage pets on people in an exploitative manner so the pets cause trains and/or the virulent talon from all the mage pets force someone to zone out before reaching the Wudan group. Since mages can't exploit that against rogues currently, Wudan is flopping around dying in pvp all day. That is the reason they are the only ones crying about SOS2 despite the fact Retaliation does not let Wudan rogues affect their gameplay.
When my cleric can do what a rouge can, we can talk. Buut until then ; the need and want for SoS2 to continue on zek on anyone's part is out of greed and childish need to win without the chance of losing. Sorry Retal but Wudan wont stop PvPing. You will have only rouges to kill when Wudan stops raiding. I can only imagine how much fun AFK rouge vs AFK rouge will be. We will just create alt rouges and leave them AFK in all the zones. If we cannot have the zones. No one will. Its the saddest new common practice...zone a 105 rouge in...and then afk until the other-side gets bored and zones out. As of right now. Rouges have nearly 70% of ALL the kills since release. Not a random number ; This is FACT 70% of all kills on zek are from a single rouge class now. We have left a toon up every moment from release until now to get these numbers. ROUGE - 70% Rangers, Sk, , Enchanter, Warriors, 27% Pally, Mages - 2% Clerics, Druids, Shamans, Wizards - 0.3 % Monk - 0% Its pretty simple to see.. The LARGE raiding guild that is actually attempting progression and to play EverQuest...wants rouge SoS2 removed/fixed. The SMALL guild that thinks progression is "stupid" and beneath them never wants SoS2 to go away because they just log on to grief. And have now been handed a GodMode Grief toon. What is most upsetting is that in this day in age of streaming and recording.. BOTH Wudan and Retal are recording and sharing the PvP Videos. The GMs and Devs should be embarrassed that those videos are circulating around. The few that do watch the vidoes, but DONT understand everquest....LAUGH and JOKE and MOCK at how BAD the EverQuest PvP has gotten. Most viewers usually thank us for posting those videos because they were thinking of coming back but then realize how broken the product is and run away... Player Vs Player is what has saved many similar MMOs People all around the world crave a great PvP game and great head to head competition. PvP could save and give EverQuest a revival...but instead its ignored and not given a chance. How many BLUE players would love to enter into a BALANCED PvP arena and test out their new gear against other rival guilds.... Odds are...damn near all of them would love it, use it. and tell their friends to come use it too. PVP COULD SAVE ALL OF EVERQUEST. BUT INSTEAD ITS IGNORED AND TREATED LIKE AN UNWANTED STEP CHILD. Just give us the simple answer and stop ignoring us. Do you intend on fixing SoS2 or not?
Those from retal please feel free to justify one class having 70% of all the pvp kills. and some classes having 0%
The fact you play a healer and complain about dps is laughable. Healers have a place in pvp and guess what...its probably not going to be dps...smh. Do I think Clerics need some extra juice..yes. That however has nothing to do with the situation at hand. I don't care if you call things facts when you show absolutely zero in the way of actual proof. If you would have done your lame "fact" checking before you probably would have gotten the same results, only with SK's and Rangers running the lead. /throws Zekster his ball. Take it and go home..nobody cares if you stop playing. Ps...you are aware that wudan posts videos of their raids right?? You are a box army..this is a fact. You have more players than retal but not by that many. Stop acting like king of the sandbox when you haven't beat anything over V&V and get owned in pvp daily
Laughable by what comparison? You seen a priest in WoW? You seen a healer in League of Legends? You seen a healer in Pantheon? You seen a healer in GuildWars2? You seen a healer in Final Fantasy?? THEY KICK ARSEE This is a PvP server. EVERYONE should be able to pvp. Not just one single class. 70% from one class. is broken by any measurement. But even more broken when others have 0% Monk and Rouge are damn near the same. But a rouge has 70% and a monk has 0%. -Its cool that Tweak is a rouge but its clear he feels so strong about this because he wants to remain the 70%
Zekster = Dorigen hes not a main cleric in wudan He pvps for 30 sec spurts on a toon called ONEBUTTONKILLER - an SK who presses one button and you collpase and to add insult to injury hes got an 105 alt called TWOBUTTONKILLER so if his first attempt at using his onebutton skillz dosnt work, hes got a back up plan but hes on the forms complaining about classes that are in his words broken zek is all about adapting to the playing feild, if you cant make the cut leave the server we dont want to hear you cry anymore
Great uneducated response from Xulore...but that was alot of opinion with no facts or solution. how do you justify Rouge 70% Monk 0% Clerics 0%
