Dear Jack Emmert - You Answered my Question, Here's my Response "Perception".

Pults · Jan 19, 2017

ChillCat said: ↑

“tl;dr translation "Jack's use of the word 'Perception' was a condescending and dismissive deflection from a real (not perceived) problem. The end"

PS - Your post was SUPER GREAT!!!”

More like projecting that the players are the problem not the drop rates.

HoiiowDreamz · Jan 19, 2017

Fies said: ↑

“Prices and supply on the AH dont prove anything. People could either hoard their mats or be skipping the AH alltogether to save the fees. Most certainly plenty get sold to friends/league directly. Therefore the AH is barely representative for the overall droprates especially when the newer mats are that desirable.
According to Jackster the goal is to give you more than your 1$ worth anyways whenever you open a TC- pretty generous imo.
After all Jackster knows aboout the overall data/droprates and therefore he should be able to distinguish between reality and whats merely your perception. Why should he lie straight to your face?”

The one's who sell in trade chat or in league barely go more than 10-20mil under the broker price. Most players are not going to even have 5 people on their friends list with over 150mil, most not even 2. And of those with over 150, most of the people who do have significantly in game cash, use the auction house. The only people who buy in trade chat are those trying to get things cheaper than the broker mostly out of being cheap or for flipping purposes, and the only people who sell in trade chat are people who need fast money or can't afford the auction house price.

xxOMNIPOTENTxx · Jan 19, 2017

We have a choice, simply don't use real currency to buy any of this garbage. DBG knows that TC sales will plummet if they stop putting feats behind them, and therefore they probably won't discontinue this process.

While it disgust me to no avail, I've just had to decide as a player to not buy them. If I'm behind the top 5% of players because I don't contribute to the cash cow concept, then so be it.

Gimpy · Jan 19, 2017

Thank You Proxy.

Hollow Gohan · Jan 19, 2017

light FX said: ↑

“If i could i would like the original post 1 million times That is perfect.
Also waiting for the usual suspects to come in this thread and twist around everything said in the OP and claim how its flawed logic and that we are crazy because the drop rates of the phoenix feather and void essence are fine ”

Well, I'm sorry for their perception on that.

Kontakt · Jan 19, 2017

Well Said They should just get rid of feats from TC, i don't care if the rare items go in the broker for millions, people spent money on them so they have every right to do that, but forcing people to buy them due to the feats attached to them is just wrong.

Karas2016 · Jan 19, 2017

Proxystar said: ↑

“To Provide Readers with a re-cap of my question that was asked of Jack Emmert during the Q&A Today (18 January 2017)

Jack's response for those that may have missed it during the live stream, was as follows;

Let's break that down to the raw elements;

The way in which something is regarded, understood, or interpreted:

So a perception by it's definition is the way something is "understood".

what we don't know (information kept confidential by Daybreak);

The purchasing data

The actual drop rates

The cost to create the capsule content

Let's focus on what we do know and how it leads not to "my perception" but "the perception any reasonable person would formbased on the information openly available to them".

To quote the elements of your post Jack,

Now although I said we'd focus on what we do know, I just wanted to quickly touch on this ambiguous topic, you say you're tweaking the drop rates based on "how many people buy". That's your quote "how many people buy".

What are you saying?

You increase the drop rate when people buy too many?

You decrease the drop rate when people buy too many?

You increase the drop rate when you decide something is too rare? or not rare enough?

What are the parameters behind how you define your drop rate or tweak your drop rate based upon sales? I don't see how you can provide the community comfort with this statement when all information in relation to the data is tightly sealed away behind closed doors?

You're asking for us to "part with our money" in the form of a "gambling box" and that we should "place our trust in you that you'll make it fair".

Come on now Jack, really!?!? I don't say this at all to insult you but it's like a casino operator telling me, play the slot machine, I promise it's not rigged, at all to make me a profit.

This is simply shown by giving you the raw data, you say you look at this, but again define no parameters, you obviously have a thought on what you deem to be an "Acceptable price" of a rare item.

Given that the rare materials have gone for more than 90mil+ the last two capsules, it can tacitly be inferred that you agree 100mil is an acceptable price for a player to pay for a rare time capsule item?

If this is not the case, what do you plan to do about it?

Are you looking at the same auction house as the players? You say "we can trade" items from the time
capsules and I even note in the recent stream SJ and Mepps were like "you can trade" it's kind of deceptive, not on purpose, but because it doesn't acknowledge the "broken state of the in game economy".

Either the devs are completely oblivious to it or you're choosing to turn a blind eye; either way let's take a quick delve into the treasure chest known as the "broker" on US PC/PS

Just to really prove the point too Jack, Look at this, the rare stuff from the previous capsules is still far cheaper than the new rare items - now you tell me, do you think it would be reasonable to "assume" the rare items from capsules past should now be going up or down?

You might argue, but the capsules are gone so any "supply" is going to be at it's maximum... You might say that but before you do, looking at the flaming phoenix feather, if drop rates were the same "why are there still way more amber, emerald and crimson mist auras than flaming phoenix feathers and phoenix materials?

So as you can see Jack, it's not a "misplaced" perception, it's a "reasonable perception" formed by the facts the community has available to them and the impact upon them within the game.

It's a conclusion drawn simply through the "Evidence" presented to the users within the game as evidenced by the above screenshots.

I really look forward to your further response in relation to this matter and possibly even any thoughts you might have on how we fix what, clearly evidenced above, is a broken economy.

[disclaimer] the screnshots were taken from an alt account, because I didn't want to make this about how much money I do or do not have myself.

I will be back later to post about the last part of your comment about getting our 99c worth, but I would like to play the game tonight also

To any community members that respond, please bear in mind this is a response to Jack, I'm not looking to receive your answers you may wish to make on his behalf.

Please keep all comments constructive and we can all have a good time.”

Proxy murders daybreak lol.

KEN_Oracle_of_Delphi · Jan 19, 2017

Jackster just got owned by Proxy !!!

The drop rate is getting worse with each time capsule. And jackster doesn't care so long as they're the ones bringing in the filthy cash flow.

Jackster, you go ahead and spend 20 dollars on Stabalizers and see how you feel about getting cheated.

Then again, maybe that's just my "PERCEPTION" ...........

Lord Jareth · Jan 19, 2017

Proxystar said: ↑

“To Provide Readers with a re-cap of my question that was asked of Jack Emmert during the Q&A Today (18 January 2017)

Jack's response for those that may have missed it during the live stream, was as follows;

Let's break that down to the raw elements;

The way in which something is regarded, understood, or interpreted:

So a perception by it's definition is the way something is "understood".

what we don't know (information kept confidential by Daybreak);

The purchasing data

The actual drop rates

The cost to create the capsule content

Let's focus on what we do know and how it leads not to "my perception" but "the perception any reasonable person would formbased on the information openly available to them".

To quote the elements of your post Jack,

Now although I said we'd focus on what we do know, I just wanted to quickly touch on this ambiguous topic, you say you're tweaking the drop rates based on "how many people buy". That's your quote "how many people buy".

What are you saying?

You increase the drop rate when people buy too many?

You decrease the drop rate when people buy too many?

You increase the drop rate when you decide something is too rare? or not rare enough?

What are the parameters behind how you define your drop rate or tweak your drop rate based upon sales? I don't see how you can provide the community comfort with this statement when all information in relation to the data is tightly sealed away behind closed doors?

You're asking for us to "part with our money" in the form of a "gambling box" and that we should "place our trust in you that you'll make it fair".

Come on now Jack, really!?!? I don't say this at all to insult you but it's like a casino operator telling me, play the slot machine, I promise it's not rigged, at all to make me a profit.

This is simply shown by giving you the raw data, you say you look at this, but again define no parameters, you obviously have a thought on what you deem to be an "Acceptable price" of a rare item.

Given that the rare materials have gone for more than 90mil+ the last two capsules, it can tacitly be inferred that you agree 100mil is an acceptable price for a player to pay for a rare time capsule item?

If this is not the case, what do you plan to do about it?

Are you looking at the same auction house as the players? You say "we can trade" items from the time
capsules and I even note in the recent stream SJ and Mepps were like "you can trade" it's kind of deceptive, not on purpose, but because it doesn't acknowledge the "broken state of the in game economy".

Either the devs are completely oblivious to it or you're choosing to turn a blind eye; either way let's take a quick delve into the treasure chest known as the "broker" on US PC/PS

Just to really prove the point too Jack, Look at this, the rare stuff from the previous capsules is still far cheaper than the new rare items - now you tell me, do you think it would be reasonable to "assume" the rare items from capsules past should now be going up or down?

You might argue, but the capsules are gone so any "supply" is going to be at it's maximum... You might say that but before you do, looking at the flaming phoenix feather, if drop rates were the same "why are there still way more amber, emerald and crimson mist auras than flaming phoenix feathers and phoenix materials?

So as you can see Jack, it's not a "misplaced" perception, it's a "reasonable perception" formed by the facts the community has available to them and the impact upon them within the game.

It's a conclusion drawn simply through the "Evidence" presented to the users within the game as evidenced by the above screenshots.

I really look forward to your further response in relation to this matter and possibly even any thoughts you might have on how we fix what, clearly evidenced above, is a broken economy.

[disclaimer] the screnshots were taken from an alt account, because I didn't want to make this about how much money I do or do not have myself.

I will be back later to post about the last part of your comment about getting our 99c worth, but I would like to play the game tonight also

To any community members that respond, please bear in mind this is a response to Jack, I'm not looking to receive your answers you may wish to make on his behalf.

Please keep all comments constructive and we can all have a good time.”

reading this my reaction is

Crimson Veil · Jan 19, 2017

1 ncmike said: ↑

“I think it's possible we could be looking at a situation were these collections and items get so rare in these time capsules that in game messages pop up to tell you who got something I believe it's coming they have it in STO and Neverwinter both game that Jack worked on in the past . I was happy when he mentioned the ingame store to get stuff you didn't get in the capsules by using coins that drop from them but then I realized that the drops will just keep getting worse when that happens.”

He didn't actually say the new store would contain the items from the TC's. He just said a store w/ "cool stuff" to buy based on points you gain from opening TCs

Starbrand · Jan 19, 2017

Jeez, Proxy, I wish I had the time to do what you did.

GJ

Jack is a smart guy, he knows how to dodge.

Roocck · Jan 19, 2017

Xibo said: ↑

“But pay TC who want, right? And the players can put whatever price they want on Broker, right? Just get rid of these feats at the moment because if they're spending $200 in TC this is their problem with their money because this is completely wrong. Although I agree that feats by RNG has been a wrong direction selected by the game. They should just put the materials directly in the Marketplace and so you buy and get the feat. Much more simple.”

Oooor, just put a price cap everything at a decent and affordable price for everyone. People complain about SP in this game, sp requires you to complete feats, which are styles, base items, collections etc... To get these you are now required to open TC's to open TC's you run your daily and get a stabilizer every three days and pray to the Dev's that you get what you need! Or spend $200 and buy stabilizers and pray some more that you open boxes and get what you need JUST so you can get these feats. When your wallet is empty the other option is to buy the collections or whatever you need in the broker, BUT when you go into the broker and search for your item, now you need $1,000,000,000,000 to get the iten and complete a feat.... Last but not least option, forget the stupid feat, forget the dumb SP, save yourself $200 and have fun playing the game.

willflynne · Jan 19, 2017

Proxystar said: ↑

“To Provide Readers with a re-cap of my question that was asked of Jack Emmert during the Q&A Today (18 January 2017)

Jack's response for those that may have missed it during the live stream, was as follows;

Let's break that down to the raw elements;

The way in which something is regarded, understood, or interpreted:

So a perception by it's definition is the way something is "understood".

what we don't know (information kept confidential by Daybreak);

The purchasing data

The actual drop rates

The cost to create the capsule content

Let's focus on what we do know and how it leads not to "my perception" but "the perception any reasonable person would formbased on the information openly available to them".

To quote the elements of your post Jack,

Now although I said we'd focus on what we do know, I just wanted to quickly touch on this ambiguous topic, you say you're tweaking the drop rates based on "how many people buy". That's your quote "how many people buy".

What are you saying?

You increase the drop rate when people buy too many?

You decrease the drop rate when people buy too many?

You increase the drop rate when you decide something is too rare? or not rare enough?

What are the parameters behind how you define your drop rate or tweak your drop rate based upon sales? I don't see how you can provide the community comfort with this statement when all information in relation to the data is tightly sealed away behind closed doors?

You're asking for us to "part with our money" in the form of a "gambling box" and that we should "place our trust in you that you'll make it fair".

Come on now Jack, really!?!? I don't say this at all to insult you but it's like a casino operator telling me, play the slot machine, I promise it's not rigged, at all to make me a profit.

This is simply shown by giving you the raw data, you say you look at this, but again define no parameters, you obviously have a thought on what you deem to be an "Acceptable price" of a rare item.

Given that the rare materials have gone for more than 90mil+ the last two capsules, it can tacitly be inferred that you agree 100mil is an acceptable price for a player to pay for a rare time capsule item?

If this is not the case, what do you plan to do about it?

Are you looking at the same auction house as the players? You say "we can trade" items from the time

capsules and I even note in the recent stream SJ and Mepps were like "you can trade" it's kind of deceptive, not on purpose, but because it doesn't acknowledge the "broken state of the in game economy".

Either the devs are completely oblivious to it or you're choosing to turn a blind eye; either way let's take a quick delve into the treasure chest known as the "broker" on US PC/PS

Just to really prove the point too Jack, Look at this, the rare stuff from the previous capsules is still far cheaper than the new rare items - now you tell me, do you think it would be reasonable to "assume" the rare items from capsules past should now be going up or down?

You might argue, but the capsules are gone so any "supply" is going to be at it's maximum... You might say that but before you do, looking at the flaming phoenix feather, if drop rates were the same "why are there still way more amber, emerald and crimson mist auras than flaming phoenix feathers and phoenix materials?

So as you can see Jack, it's not a "misplaced" perception, it's a "reasonable perception" formed by the facts the community has available to them and the impact upon them within the game.

It's a conclusion drawn simply through the "Evidence" presented to the users within the game as evidenced by the above screenshots.

I really look forward to your further response in relation to this matter and possibly even any thoughts you might have on how we fix what, clearly evidenced above, is a broken economy.

[disclaimer] the screnshots were taken from an alt account, because I didn't want to make this about how much money I do or do not have myself.

I will be back later to post about the last part of your comment about getting our 99c worth, but I would like to play the game tonight also

To any community members that respond, please bear in mind this is a response to Jack, I'm not looking to receive your answers you may wish to make on his behalf.

Please keep all comments constructive and we can all have a good time.”

It's a solid looking case, but unfortunately I think it can take a large hit thanks in part to your definition of the word Perception, particularly due to the last word in the definition.

The way in which something is regarded, understood, or interpreted:

Your case may be solid, but it could be also completely off-base because your interpretation of the information may not be accurate, or worse could be colored by personal bias. And considering we as players don't have all the information available to us, either case (accurate or off-base) is entirely within the realm of possibility.

I can't say that you're wrong, but at the same time I can't say that you're right either. With the limited data and info we have, it's too easy to misinterpret what we see and that will always spur me into questioning any conclusions made.

Crimson Veil · Jan 19, 2017

Roocck said: ↑

“Oooor, just put a price cap everything at a decent and affordable price for everyone. People complain about SP in this game, sp requires you to complete feats, which are styles, base items, collections etc... To get these you are now required to open TC's to open TC's you run your daily and get a stabilizer every three days and pray to the Dev's that you get what you need! Or spend $200 and buy stabilizers and pray some more that you open boxes and get what you need JUST so you can get these feats. When your wallet is empty the other option is to buy the collections or whatever you need in the broker, BUT when you go into the broker and search for your item, now you need $1,000,000,000,000 to get the iten and complete a feat.... Last but not least option, forget the stupid feat, forget the dumb SP, save yourself $200 and have fun playing the game.”

I go with a combo of the first and last choices (as marked above)

Nemisor · Jan 19, 2017

I haven't often agreed with you Proxy, but that was well said.

I'd say most of us have got your back on this one, keep it up.

Gimpy · Jan 19, 2017

While I won't post what I truly think about the livestream and what was said by both people in the view of the camera,

Synsepalum dulcificum might be needed to change the taste left after hearing it.

DarkAya · Jan 19, 2017

Proxy, You nailed it! Ha ha ha, those screenshots with prices tell everything, reflect everything
and most of all, how much players are being tricked.

Derio · Jan 19, 2017

I am sorry, but this makes too much sense. They are probably confused right now because Proxy's post made so much sense.

Here is to proxy

Jacob Dragonhunter · Jan 19, 2017

Derio said: ↑

“I am sorry, but this makes too much sense. They are probably confused right now because Proxy's post made so much sense.

Here is to proxy
”

BumblingB · Jan 19, 2017

Derio said: ↑

“I am sorry, but this makes too much sense. They are probably confused right now because Proxy's post made so much sense.

Here is to proxy
”

No it was perceived as making sense.

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