SOE is releasing the new striker UP, and that is okay.

SuperTrooperWaterloo · Oct 1, 2014

Xasapis said: ↑

“How long did it take them to tone down the old Striker? Did you know that at the time they nerfed the Mosquito, because it was so heavily over-performing due to the Striker giving it easy air superiority? How long it took the Fractures to be toned down to an actual AV weapon? Or the H-Vulcan from completely owning the tank fights? How long it will take them to tone down Pounders? Or the Banshee? How long do you think it will take them to tone down the AI capability of the Prowler's main gun?

TR is by no means a faction that was or is lacking over-performing weapons that persisted for longer periods of time that they actually should. In fact, if you start counting, I'm pretty sure they have the highest number of over-pferforming gear than either the NC or VS.

Striker needed a love pass, we can agree on that. Maybe what is going to hit live is not enough. That doesn't mean that TR "have it bad", far from it.”

You are talking about OP things that got fixed and are worth playing now. I was talking about a useless ability that we have since the game came out^^ Welcome ZOE to the MAX lockdown world.

Xasapis · Oct 1, 2014

SuperTrooperWaterloo said: ↑

“You are talking about OP things that got fixed and are worth playing now. I was talking about a useless ability that we have since the game came out^^ Welcome ZOE to the MAX lockdown world.”

The game did not come out with empire specific MAX abilities. It is true though that Lockdown has been in a sad state since it was introduced.

OldMaster80 · Oct 1, 2014

Rovertoo said: ↑

“I don't really agree. Every good thing about a weapon should be countered by a bad thing. If, for example, the Striker gets it's damage buffed to something considerable, obviously people will complain. However, if they make it so that this buffed Striker now takes a good 10 seconds to reload, it has a major downside that people will learn to use against the user, and skilled users will be able to get around. So it is a terrifying, easy to use weapon with high damage but can only be used every 10 seconds. Conversely, they could keep it at it's very piddly damage but decrease it's reload speed to something like half a second. Now it's a weapon that shoots peas, but shoots them all the time. Balance issues come from when people try to find just the right "number" for a weapon, be it fire rate or damage or something like that. Correct balance is a literal balance like a scale between plus sides and good sides.”

Agreed but I'm skeptical about the actual possibility to find a solution satisfying TR HA and NC/VS pilots.

Peebuddy · Oct 1, 2014

OldMaster80 said: ↑

“I'm against having the Striker back to his original power but let's be honest: how are we supposed to use a rocket launcher that cannot even destroy a Flash without armor with a full clip of rockets?”

It is quite worrisome that they would even set the bar that low to begin with.

Seriously, someone at HQ had to say "what's the health on a flash? Now make the striker do just shy of that." then proceeds to slide everything off the technicians desk and walk out.

FieldMarshall · Oct 1, 2014

Considering their track record for handling buffs/nerfs.
I dont trust SoE to buff whatever "UP" stuff they release within any reasonable timeframe.

How many years is ZoE going to be crap?
Just becasue it was OP at some point doesent mean it should never be viable again.

Its like they have no concept of what is overpowered or useless. Why do they have to tweak everything to extremes all the time.

Geneaux · Oct 1, 2014

Foxirus said: ↑

“No, ZOE is evidence that the Vanu simply get the **** end of the stick every time. The ZOE was made completely useless while your Striker still does SOMETHING. That speed boost that ZOE gave? Not only did it get nerfed in how much speed you gained, But it also got a timer nerf and a cooldown. Top that off with increased damage for using it? Useless.

Let me explain some of the Mechanics of the ZOE, so you can't try to argue my point that its completely useless now, to the point they might as well just scrap the ability as a whole if they aren't going to buff it somewhere...

ZOE decreases the time it takes to reach a full running speed, Since the nerf added a timer, This effectively made Charge infinitely better.

ZOE increases damage... It increases the damage enough to where it takes around 1 shot less to kill infantry. Bursters are around 2 shots less on everything and the AV is around 1 shot less. Still utterly useless. The nerf to the movement speed would have been fine and would have made things fair on the ZOE, But the cooldown timer given to ZOE were the final nails in the coffin.

To support my claim that the Vanu get screwed in everything, Simply refer to our worthless pistols. Look at our tank who's only benefit is that it can climb terrain that would only effect an enemy tank 20% of the time.. Feel free to look at the Spiker, yet another signal showing we will never have a nice pistol. Look at our No Bullet Drop trait, We don't even get to use that where it matters. Snipers have bullet drop, Slugs have bullet drop, our Magriders Primary weapon has bullet drop.

Maybe they shouldn't buff the Striker.. Maybe they should just leave it broken like they have with the Vanu's ZOE. I am tired of feeling like our faction is the only one who gets their parade **** on long term.”

Sure. That statement alone nuked your comment.

How about you make a TR toon, and play a heavy with a Striker exclusively for any anti-vehicle combat for 2 weeks.

OldMaster80 said: ↑

“If you make the Striker too strong then all TR will use it and when they will spam it, it will make life impossible to vehicles once again.”

There's human concepts called 'moderation' and 'compromise' and I seriously doubt the devs considered it in the thought processes that lead to said nerfs.

Flag · Oct 1, 2014

NC_agent00kevin said: ↑

“Actually, they were indeed using their strikers. As a TR you probably don't notice it, but I sure do. Every battle those angry missiles are chasing me and often pounding the utter dog **** out of my vehicles.

They are far from useless. The problem is, TR got used to them being ridiculously OP and complain because they aren't any more. Just like Lancers and the Screeeeee missiles, they are best used in groups...just like everything else in this game.”

Thank you for speaking sense!

RadarX · Oct 1, 2014

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