Level3 issues? Post some info here

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  1. Napsterbater

    Nope that trace looks good and you are not even going over Level3.

    Although you do have a double NAT it looks like, that wouldn't cause any issues with Planetside but if you ever need to port forward it may be an issue. Google "Double NAT" for more info.


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  2. bubbleawsome

    Yeah, I had to double up because the ISP's modem/wifi/router all-in-one's wifi broke. Plugged it into the router I have and it worked. :p Does Sony have anything on other ISP issues? I highly doubt that high of a ping is normal.
  3. heirax


    hi. i have had this issue for quite a while now. my internetprovider has figured out that the connection from Copenhagen to Frankfurt must be verry bussy or damaged. i can do nothing about it nor can my internetprovider. i have been speaking to youre technical department for quite a while, since my game has been working verry poorly for months. i have finaly found the problem, but now i can do nothing about it. i have tried contacting level 3 several times, but they do not reply, so would PLEASE help me get this fixed in some way? otherwise i cant see my self play this game anymore, cause its pritty much unplayable. my internet provider tested the ping from four different providers and all of them has the same timeout at hop 7.
    Tracing route to lp.soe.com [64.37.171.24]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.1
    2 12 ms 11 ms 7 ms 172.16.0.1
    3 8 ms 13 ms 8 ms 93.176.64.1
    4 15 ms 18 ms 12 ms 93.176.92.157
    5 76 ms 15 ms 12 ms 212.73.252.5
    6 13 ms 17 ms 13 ms ae-0-10.bar1.Copenhagen1.Level3.net [4.69.137.153]
    7 * * * Request timed out.
    8 177 ms 180 ms 178 ms ae-46-46.ebr3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.143.170]
    9 * * * Request timed out.
    10 * * * Request timed out.
    11 * * * Request timed out.
    12 * * * Request timed out.
    13 * * * Request timed out.
    14 174 ms 177 ms 175 ms ae-6-6.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.148.146]
    15 175 ms 176 ms 175 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.132.113]
    16 * * * Request timed out.
    17 * * * Request timed out.
    18 173 ms 178 ms 174 ms ae-1-6.bar2.LasVegas1.Level3.net [4.69.148.1]
    19 175 ms 251 ms 172 ms ae-0-11.bar1.LasVegas1.Level3.net [4.69.148.125]
    20 175 ms 177 ms 177 ms 205.129.16.50
    21 174 ms 174 ms 173 ms lp.soe.com [64.37.171.24]

    Trace complete.
  4. Ness_54_FR

    Hy,
    I'm hit to :confused:

    Country:France ISP:Free

    Détermination de l'itinéraire vers lp.soe.com [64.37.171.24]
    avec un maximum de 30 sauts :

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms FREEBOX [XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX]
    2 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
    3 6 ms 6 ms 5 ms nancy-6k-1-a5.routers.proxad.net [213.228.13.62]
    4 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms p11-9k-1-be1017.intf.routers.proxad.net [212.27.50.125]
    5 13 ms 12 ms 11 ms p11-crs16-1-be1004.intf.routers.proxad.net [78.254.249.129]
    6 11 ms 11 ms 10 ms bzn-9k-4-be1004.intf.routers.proxad.net [78.254.249.2]
    7 34 ms 32 ms 32 ms te0-1-0-3.375.agr21.par01.atlas.cogentco.com [149.6.115.21]
    8 24 ms 21 ms 20 ms be2044.ccr41.par01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.51.77]
    9 109 ms 109 ms 107 ms be2231.ccr41.iad02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.28.105]
    10 96 ms 96 ms 99 ms xe-11-2-1.edge3.Washington4.Level3.net [4.68.63.173]
    11 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
    12 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
    13 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
    14 182 ms 180 ms 180 ms ae-6-6.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.148.146]
    15 161 ms 162 ms 162 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.132.113]
    16 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
    17 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
    18 187 ms 183 ms 191 ms ae-1-6.bar2.LasVegas1.Level3.net [4.69.148.1]
    19 202 ms 194 ms 182 ms ae-0-11.bar1.LasVegas1.Level3.net [4.69.148.125]
    20 150 ms 150 ms 151 ms SWITCH-COMM.bar1.LasVegas1.Level3.net [205.129.16.50]
    21 150 ms 150 ms 150 ms lp.soe.com [64.37.171.24]

    Itinéraire déterminé.

    First time tonight that I encounter this issue ,last week ping was 60ms and 180 ms minimum in good moment ...

    Good luck in your research ,we all count on you.
  5. Napsterbater


    Umm, 2 things.

    You are not tracing to a game server, you are tracing to the Launchpad Server that has nothing to do with in game latency. What server do you play on?

    And that is a Normal Latency coming from Europe to Las Vegas Nv, US
  6. Napsterbater


    Same for you as above, you are tracing to the Launchpad Server, it has nothing to do with the game servers or in game latency.

    150ms from europe to Las Vegas NV US is pretty good though.

    What server do you play on?
  7. Ness_54_FR

    Ok got it;
    could someone confirm this(like an official ,yes I ask a lot...)

    (AU) Briggs: 69.174.220.23
    (EU) Cobalt: 69.174.194.165
    (EU) Miller: 69.174.194.168
    (US West) Connery: 64.37.174.140
    (US East) Waterson: 69.174.216.27

    thx ;)
  8. WurbleFlurble

    Tracing route to lp.soe.com [64.37.171.24]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
    2 37 ms 26 ms 13 ms 69.137.126.1
    3 10 ms 10 ms 15 ms te-1-2-sr01.elizabethtwn.ky.nash.comcast.net [68
    .85.50.173]
    4 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms te-3-1-sr02.elizabethtwn.ky.nash.comcast.net [68
    .86.176.229]
    5 16 ms 12 ms 27 ms xe-7-0-0-0-ar03.nashville.tn.nash.comcast.net [6
    8.86.176.225]
    6 21 ms 14 ms 14 ms ae-2-0-ar01.goodslettvll.tn.nash.comcast.net [68
    .85.174.238]
    7 23 ms 26 ms 22 ms he-5-5-0-0-cr01.56marietta.ga.ibone.comcast.net
    [68.86.90.101]
    8 21 ms 21 ms 22 ms 23.30.207.98
    9 * * * Request timed out.
    10 * * * Request timed out.
    11 * * * Request timed out.
    12 * * * Request timed out.
    13 * * * Request timed out.
    14 73 ms 72 ms 72 ms ae-1-6.bar2.LasVegas1.Level3.net [4.69.148.1]
    15 72 ms 73 ms 73 ms ae-0-11.bar1.LasVegas1.Level3.net [4.69.148.125]

    16 77 ms 88 ms 77 ms SWITCH-COMM.bar1.LasVegas1.Level3.net [205.129.1
    6.50]
    17 77 ms 78 ms 79 ms lp.soe.com [64.37.171.24]

    Trace complete.
  9. WarmasterRaptor

    Is this still worth anything?
  10. Noktaj

    TraceRoute Output:
    traceroute to 64.37.171.24 (64.37.171.24), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
    1 gw-v130.xl-is.net (141.138.203.1) 0.522 ms 0.449 ms 0.395 ms
    2 rt-eu02-v2.xl-is.net (79.170.92.20) 0.678 ms 0.697 ms 0.796 ms
    3 xe-8-2-1.edge6.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (212.72.42.237) 1.169 ms 1.114 ms 1.095 ms
    4 * * *
    5 * * *
    6 * * *
    7 * * *
    8 * * *
    9 * * *
    10 * * *
    11 ae-6-6.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.190) 140.893 ms 140.223 ms 140.916 ms
    12 * * *
    13 * * *
    14 ae-1-6.bar2.LasVegas1.Level3.net (4.69.148.1) 140.988 ms 141.779 ms 141.953 ms
    15 ae-0-11.bar1.LasVegas1.Level3.net (4.69.148.125) 140.820 ms 140.692 ms 140.720 ms
    16 SWITCH-COMM.bar1.LasVegas1.Level3.net (205.129.16.50) 141.208 ms 141.662 ms 141.471 ms
    17 * * *
    18 * * *
    19 * * *
    20 * * *
    21 * * *
    22 * * *
    23 * * *
    24 * * *
    25 * * *
    26 * * *
    27 * * *
    28 * * *
    29 * * *
    30 * * *

    ---- Finished ------



    --- PING 64.37.171.24 (64.37.171.24) 56(84) bytes of data. ---
    64 bytes from 64.37.171.24: icmp_seq=1 ttl=110 time=154 ms
    64 bytes from 64.37.171.24: icmp_seq=2 ttl=110 time=154 ms
    64 bytes from 64.37.171.24: icmp_seq=3 ttl=110 time=154 ms
    64 bytes from 64.37.171.24: icmp_seq=4 ttl=110 time=154 ms


    --- 64.37.171.24 ping statistics ---
    packets transmitted 4
    received 4
    packet loss 0 %
    time 3003 ms


    --- Round Trip Time (rtt) ---
    min 154.559 ms
    avg 154.603 ms
    max 154.630 ms
    mdev 0.482 ms

    I don't know if this is of any help, but I'm having 150 to 200+ ping to Miller lately.
  11. Napsterbater

    You guys need to trace to the IP of the server you play/experience issues on.

    Tracing to lp.soe.com (64.37.171.24) is useless.
  12. Noktaj


    Except when it's SOE asking you to do exactly that in their ticket service.
    And just to complete my previous post with proper tracking:


    Traccia instradamento verso lp.soe.com [64.37.171.24]
    su un massimo di 30 punti di passaggio:

    1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
    2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms static-213-205-24-86.clienti.tiscali.it [213.205.24.86]
    3 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms static-94-32-129-97.clienti.tiscali.it [94.32.129.97]
    4 8 ms 7 ms 6 ms static-213-205-31-181.clienti.tiscali.it [213.205.31.181]
    5 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms static-213-205-31-9.clienti.tiscali.it [213.205.31.9]
    6 31 ms 68 ms 32 ms 94.32.128.145
    7 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms ae2-300.mil20.ip4.gtt.net [77.67.94.37]
    8 52 ms 84 ms 50 ms xe-8-2-1.fra44.ip4.gtt.net [141.136.105.109]
    9 50 ms 51 ms 52 ms xe-10-2-0.edge5.frankfurt1.level3.net [4.68.63.57]
    10 * * * Richiesta scaduta.
    11 * * * Richiesta scaduta.
    12 * * * Richiesta scaduta.
    13 * * * Richiesta scaduta.
    14 * * * Richiesta scaduta.
    15 213 ms 211 ms 211 ms ae-6-6.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.148.146]
    16 210 ms 210 ms 211 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.132.113]
    17 * * * Richiesta scaduta.
    18 * * * Richiesta scaduta.
    19 212 ms 211 ms 210 ms ae-1-6.bar2.LasVegas1.Level3.net [4.69.148.1]
    20 211 ms 234 ms 210 ms ae-0-11.bar1.LasVegas1.Level3.net [4.69.148.125]
    21 313 ms 403 ms 230 ms SWITCH-COMM.bar1.LasVegas1.Level3.net [205.129.16.50]
    22 212 ms 212 ms 212 ms lp.soe.com [64.37.171.24]

    Traccia completata.
  13. Napsterbater

    That just shows 1st Level techs at SOE are as good as 1st level techs at an ISP, not very (generally).

    The game only maintains connections to 2 locations while you're playing, 1 is the game server and one is the VoIP/Voice chat server.

    You can test this yourself easily using Resource Monitor in Windows 7+ (possibly Vista as well), single out the planetside process and watch the network activity section, example below taken from system.

    69.174.216.21 is the IP/Name of the Emreld server (note on most servers this is a domain name). Since everything is UDP received traffic for the game and VoIP is lumped into one "connection" with my computers address. The two *.vivox.com connections are the VoIP/Voice Chat servers.
    As you can see there is no connection to lp.soe.com all game traffic is direct to 69.174.216.21

    [IMG]

    Now here is two different traces show the different path to Emreld and to lp.soe.com
    Emreld is in Ashburn, VA, USA and lp.soe.com is in Las Vegas, NV, USA

    Code:
    C:\Windows\system32>tracert 69.174.216.21
     
    Tracing route to 69.174.216.21 over a maximum of 30 hops
     
      1    <1 ms    6 ms    3 ms  car1.napshome.local [10.0.1.3]
      2    6 ms    2 ms    3 ms  gpon-local.xlr8bb.com [10.40.0.1]
      3    2 ms    3 ms    3 ms  gpon-local.xlr8bb.com [172.16.1.2]
      4    12 ms    15 ms    12 ms  38.122.47.121
      5    10 ms    11 ms    11 ms  te0-7-0-5.ccr21.atl04.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
    .85.234]
      6    *        *      13 ms  level3.atl04.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.138]
     
      7    *        *        *    Request timed out.
      8    *        *        *    Request timed out.
      9    *        *        *    Request timed out.
    10    46 ms    26 ms    25 ms  ae-1-60.edge1.washington1.level3.net [4.69.149.1
    3]
    11    25 ms    30 ms    23 ms  vl124.asheqnx-2.sonyonline.net [63.215.136.202]
     
    12    26 ms    29 ms    25 ms  69.174.216.21
     
    Trace complete.
     
    C:\Windows\system32>tracert lp.soe.com
     
    Tracing route to lp.soe.com [64.37.171.24]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
     
      1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  car1.napshome.local [10.0.1.3]
      2    5 ms    3 ms    10 ms  gpon-local.xlr8bb.com [10.40.0.1]
      3    6 ms    4 ms    1 ms  gpon-local.xlr8bb.com [172.16.1.2]
      4    12 ms    13 ms    11 ms  38.122.47.121
      5    17 ms    11 ms    11 ms  te0-7-0-5.ccr21.atl04.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
    .85.234]
      6    *      12 ms    14 ms  level3.atl04.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.138]
     
      7    *        *        *    Request timed out.
      8    *        *        *    Request timed out.
      9    *        *        *    Request timed out.
    10    *        *        *    Request timed out.
    11    *        *        *    Request timed out.
    12    67 ms    67 ms    67 ms  ae-1-6.bar2.lasvegas1.level3.net [4.69.148.1]
    13    65 ms    67 ms    67 ms  ae-0-11.bar1.lasvegas1.level3.net [4.69.148.125]
     
    14    65 ms    67 ms    67 ms  switch-comm.bar1.lasvegas1.level3.net [205.129.1
    6.50]
    15    65 ms    67 ms    67 ms  lp.soe.com [64.37.171.24]
     
    Trace complete.

    Now If your having issues with the launcher tracing to lp.soe.com may be useful, otherwise no.
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  14. WurbleFlurble

    in that case then here's the server trace
    Tracing route to 69.174.216.21 over a maximum of 30 hops

    1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
    2 126 ms 116 ms 79 ms 69.137.126.1
    3 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms te-1-2-sr01.elizabethtwn.ky.nash.comcast.net [68
    .85.50.173]
    4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms te-3-1-sr02.elizabethtwn.ky.nash.comcast.net [68
    .86.176.229]
    5 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms xe-7-0-0-0-ar03.nashville.tn.nash.comcast.net [6
    8.86.176.225]
    6 16 ms 36 ms 14 ms ae-2-0-ar01.goodslettvll.tn.nash.comcast.net [68
    .85.174.238]
    7 23 ms 22 ms 24 ms he-5-5-0-0-cr01.56marietta.ga.ibone.comcast.net
    [68.86.90.101]
    8 25 ms 24 ms 25 ms pos-0-3-0-0-pe01.56marietta.ga.ibone.comcast.net
    [68.86.87.134]
    9 34 ms 25 ms 20 ms 66.208.232.42
    10 36 ms 36 ms 37 ms tge7-2.fr3.iad.llnw.net [69.28.171.233]
    11 40 ms 271 ms 280 ms sony.ge4-12.fr3.iad.llnw.net [68.142.111.254]
    12 43 ms 38 ms 53 ms 69.174.216.21

    Trace complete.
  15. Napsterbater

    Looks good.... If you are playing on Emerald.
  16. WurbleFlurble

    Well It wasn't acting up when I traced it. It seems to get worse in the afternoon (by around usually 9pm my ping is at about 500+ if I'm lucky and I know it's not on my end cause my other games at worst never go past 115 ping
  17. antiheld84

    tracert 69.174.194.168

    Routenverfolgung zu amspsn-liv-gw04.planetside2.com [69.174.194.168] über maxima
    l 30 Abschnitte:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Speedport.ip [192.168.2.1]
    2 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 217.0.117.179
    3 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms 87.186.197.82
    4 28 ms 25 ms 23 ms 217.239.39.18
    5 43 ms 44 ms 43 ms te-3-0-0.edge5.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.68.62.14
    1]
    6 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
    7 116 ms 117 ms 120 ms ae-73-73.ebr3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.163.5]

    8 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
    9 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
    10 123 ms 123 ms 123 ms ae-45-45.ebr1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.143.19
    7]
    11 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
    12 113 ms 144 ms 116 ms ae-128-3514.edge6.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.16
    2.230]
    13 118 ms 118 ms 118 ms SONY-ONLINE.edge6.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [212.72.
    46.190]
    14 118 ms 121 ms 119 ms amspsn-liv-gw04.planetside2.com [69.174.194.168]
  18. DLL2

    Before merg

    and now
    Code:
    tracert 69.174.194.168
    1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.254
      2    6 ms    5 ms    5 ms  78.202.246.254
      3    6 ms    6 ms    7 ms  213.228.41.158
      4    7 ms    6 ms    7 ms  rennes-6k-1-po6.intf.routers.proxad.net [212.27.
    57.193]
      5    13 ms    13 ms    12 ms  p11-9k-1-be1021.intf.routers.proxad.net [194.149
    .161.157]
      6    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  p11-crs16-1-be1004.intf.routers.proxad.net [78.2
    54.249.129]
      7    13 ms    12 ms    12 ms  th2-9k-1-be1001.intf.routers.proxad.net [78.254.
    249.6]
      8    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  ae56.edge4.Paris1.Level3.net [213.242.111.209]
      9    *        *        *    Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
    10    *        *        *    Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
    11    *        *        *    Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
    12    *        *        *    Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
    13    *        *        *    Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
    14    *        *        *    Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
    15    25 ms    24 ms    25 ms  ae-238-3614.edge6.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.16
    2.246]
    16    25 ms    24 ms    24 ms  SONY-ONLINE.edge6.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [212.72.
    46.190]
    17    24 ms    24 ms    24 ms  amspsn-liv-gw04.planetside2.com [69.174.194.168] 
    I cann't play correcly since i use level3. soe stop work with level3 or buff them.

    Or it is possible to use vpn or proxy for bypass level 3?
  19. Napsterbater

    DLL2 What more do you want, you are showing a 27ms and 24ms Latency to the server. There is nothing wrong with the path between you and the server.

    What problems are you having?
  20. DLL2

    My ping is not stable since i route use level3.net i get less ping but not stable. I prefer have +2ms and be stable.
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