I hate Heavy Assult shield ability!

KRE8R125 · Mar 23, 2013

Dr Grumbler said: ↑

“But this game is a shooter with elements of MMO, not a god **** RTS. The classes should be more balanced IMO and have an equal chance of winning in 1 vs 1 combat. The deciding factor should be skill not the kind of loadout that you carry.”

It doesn't seem like you understand the concept of game balance very well.

jwiechers · Mar 23, 2013

Patrician said: ↑

“You say the classes should be more balanced 1 v's 1? What like an LA should have an equal chance of taking down an HA? Or a medic? So you don't want there to be any difference between classes in PS2? All classes should be equal, is that what you want? Look just go back to CoD.”

My thoughts exactly. The guy has no understanding of this sort of game. Classes should be heavily unbalanced -- as they are right now. I can easily take down a HA with my infiltrator, but only if I'm smart about it -- or snipe him from a long distance. If I get into close quarters and make even a tiny mistake, I'll be ripped to pieces in seconds.

ThePackage · Mar 23, 2013

BuzzCutPsycho said: ↑

“NMG is fine.”

Said every heavy assault player ever.

Bl4ckVoid · Mar 23, 2013

If heavy is so OP in your opinion, why don't you play one?
Enjoy the shield!

UrMom306 · Mar 23, 2013

boogaa said: ↑

“Dude, medic can take shotgun, 2 shots are enough to kill an HA with shield even at 50m...”

yeah I hate shotguns though, i use one on my heavy but hate it

Dr Grumbler · Mar 23, 2013

Patrician said: ↑

“You say the classes should be more balanced 1 v's 1? What like an LA should have an equal chance of taking down an HA? Or a medic? So you don't want there to be any difference between classes in PS2? All classes should be equal, is that what you want? Look just go back to CoD.”

I will use Starcraft as an example. Each race is different and have different strengths and weaknesses but all of them are equally viable on the battlefield. Infantry units in PS2 should be the same - who wins should be decided by how you use your abilities, not by what abilities you have.

thrikerr · Mar 23, 2013

Dr Grumbler said: ↑

“I will use Starcraft as an example. Each race is different and have different strengths and weaknesses but all of them are equally viable on the battlefield. Infantry units in PS2 should be the same - who wins should be decided by how you use your abilities, not by what abilities you have.”

Are you saying winning is the same thing as killing? Classes are equally viable in this game. Medics are good at keeping teammates alive, engineers are good at keeping everyone repaired and supplied, and heavy assaults are good at killing things. You need them all to complete objectives. In a game where the only objective is to get kills, then heavy assault is the best class. But we're not playing team deathmatch.

Starcraft is a horrible example by the way. All units in that game are not equally viable in combat. Workers, medics, transports... They all support the units that do the killing. Sound familiar?

LonelyTerran · Mar 23, 2013

ent|ty · Mar 23, 2013

Dr Grumbler said: ↑

“At the moment the extra shield ability of HA is basically a F...CK YOU button. Every time a heavy starts taking fire they just press F and presto - you can do sh...t to them. A HA doesn't need to see where the fire is coming from, the extra shield protects from all directions so it promotes noobish behaviour - HA doesn't have to be bothered with spacial awareness and reflex. Just press F and run away instead or turn around and check if there's somebody behind you, if no then run, no skill required to gain additional protection on top of already increased health and standard shields in comparison to other classes.

I think that it would be much more fair if the extra shield of the heavies was directional ie. protected for example only the front of the player (like jackals from halo). That way it would actually require some tactic in how it is used. Heavies would actually have to pay some attention to their surroundings.

Alternatively the extra shield could be modified to be something like a bubble shield from halo. If ambushed the heavy could drop a bubble that blocks enemy fire (possibly also blocks enemies trying to go through the bubble) but also HA's own bullets. Staying inside the bubble would give enough time to regenerate the primary shield and locate the attacker but HA would not be able to use it to gain unfair advantage. he would have to actually step out from the shield and engage the enemy on equal terms.

The third option that I can think of is making the extra shield a deployable cover, an emitter than the player drops on the ground to create a flat panel cover that protects from fire (obviously from one direction, unless you combine your shield with other players to create a mini fort - that would be an interesting tactical option). Again, using this would require some skill in contrast to the shield that heavies have now. Health/Shield wise they are already the strongest class after MAX so no need to baby sit them and give unfair advantage. I'm curious what others have to say about this?”

BS. All perception. Go play an HA and get back to me before you even say something so ridiculous.

boogaa · Mar 25, 2013

Dr Grumbler said: ↑

“I will use Starcraft as an example. Each race is different and have different strengths and weaknesses but all of them are equally viable on the battlefield. Infantry units in PS2 should be the same - who wins should be decided by how you use your abilities, not by what abilities you have.”

Well talking about starcraft, we can say that Vanu and TR are like Protoss with unlimited resource, one basic unit can smoke any terran tank ...

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