Underpowered class?

ARCHIVED-hellfire · Jan 20, 2009

Arkinon wrote:

“Enoa@Kithicor wrote:

“Arkinon wrote:

“First off I cant believe im going to say this but Sarxil (Xil) is right. I have only been playing a Necro for about a month (betrayed from a conji) and with crap gear and no epic im rolling 3.5 to 4k (My high was 4.2k so far) on a raid. With Groups it can depend on the makeup but still can sit around the same. I have seen sarx post consistantly in the top 5 on the parse with an average around 5k and he isnt fabled out. There are occasions when he can hit 7 to 10k on raids named or trash. While I think Sarx has an ego the size of texas he unfortunatly can back it up (which is why no matter what I think about him he has a point). He may come across harsh and can make him look like an @$$ to some people, but he If he is willing to give advice on parcing better ill take it ego or not. Simply because I have seen him in action. If you looking for validation then there it is. But then again im still kinda new to the necro class so what do I know right. Just figuing out gear, AA and casting order has helped A LOT and Sarx even if indirectly has helped and proven at least to me we can put out respectable numbers WITHOUT the best gear.

Edited for spelling”

I thought he beat everyone but mythical'd assassins?
If you want validation that he doesn't know as much about this game as he pretends check out the other active thread in this class forum.
You'd get better advice asking someone else who understand proc mechanics, base damage vs. spell damage, and what piece of mind actually does.
Did he ask you to post this?”

Since you asked no he didnt. And on top of that I have seen first hand what he can do so I could give a ratonga's backside what you think. Your insinuation that im not sincere or straightforward in what I say reguardless of association is dissrespectful and insulting. All i know is what I see and I see a necro parsing in the top 5 consistantly (reguardless of the numbers) which I dont see anyone other Necros doing consistantly. I have stopped coming here for advice because All i see is a class complaing on how **** they are. I bought into it for a while and found that while yes we have some decent flaws BUT we are not as **** as people make us out to be. I could care less about all the other garbage we cant do. I am concentrating on the things we can! Given the fact I SEE what we are capable of I will do what I can to make myself better. My father had a saying "Your either part of the solution or your part of the problem " In this case discounting what someone says because you dont like them or think they are full of it without really trying it yourself to see what you may be doing wrong makes you part of the problem. Stop complaining and start doing then when you cant figure out why ask. Find the solution. If at that point you decide the data is wrong then you can call people on it. I could care less about the things he may not know but I am looking at the things he has proven (at least to me) that he DOES know. Until then... Until you take a hard look at YOUR faults as a player you dont have the right to insinuate im a liar.”

What if everyone discounts what he said....because for the most part everything he said was wrong.
Id like to think that he is the problem and not in the ball park of being part of the solution.

ARCHIVED-Xil · Jan 20, 2009

Bigron@Unrest wrote:

“Arkinon wrote:

“Enoa@Kithicor wrote:

“Arkinon wrote:

“First off I cant believe im going to say this but Sarxil (Xil) is right. I have only been playing a Necro for about a month (betrayed from a conji) and with crap gear and no epic im rolling 3.5 to 4k (My high was 4.2k so far) on a raid. With Groups it can depend on the makeup but still can sit around the same. I have seen sarx post consistantly in the top 5 on the parse with an average around 5k and he isnt fabled out. There are occasions when he can hit 7 to 10k on raids named or trash. While I think Sarx has an ego the size of texas he unfortunatly can back it up (which is why no matter what I think about him he has a point). He may come across harsh and can make him look like an @$$ to some people, but he If he is willing to give advice on parcing better ill take it ego or not. Simply because I have seen him in action. If you looking for validation then there it is. But then again im still kinda new to the necro class so what do I know right. Just figuing out gear, AA and casting order has helped A LOT and Sarx even if indirectly has helped and proven at least to me we can put out respectable numbers WITHOUT the best gear.

Edited for spelling”

I thought he beat everyone but mythical'd assassins?
If you want validation that he doesn't know as much about this game as he pretends check out the other active thread in this class forum.
You'd get better advice asking someone else who understand proc mechanics, base damage vs. spell damage, and what piece of mind actually does.
Did he ask you to post this?”

Since you asked no he didnt. And on top of that I have seen first hand what he can do so I could give a ratonga's backside what you think. Your insinuation that im not sincere or straightforward in what I say reguardless of association is dissrespectful and insulting. All i know is what I see and I see a necro parsing in the top 5 consistantly (reguardless of the numbers) which I dont see anyone other Necros doing consistantly. I have stopped coming here for advice because All i see is a class complaing on how **** they are. I bought into it for a while and found that while yes we have some decent flaws BUT we are not as **** as people make us out to be. I could care less about all the other garbage we cant do. I am concentrating on the things we can! Given the fact I SEE what we are capable of I will do what I can to make myself better. My father had a saying "Your either part of the solution or your part of the problem " In this case discounting what someone says because you dont like them or think they are full of it without really trying it yourself to see what you may be doing wrong makes you part of the problem. Stop complaining and start doing then when you cant figure out why ask. Find the solution. If at that point you decide the data is wrong then you can call people on it. I could care less about the things he may not know but I am looking at the things he has proven (at least to me) that he DOES know. Until then... Until you take a hard look at YOUR faults as a player you dont have the right to insinuate im a liar.”

What if everyone discounts what he said....because for the most part everything he said was wrong.
Id like to think that he is the problem and not in the ball park of being part of the solution.”

You'd also like to think that plane shift added to every availible spell mod in the game at the highest level of progression isn't exagerating the effectiveness of a specific effect either.
You even went as far as to send the item dev a PM about how the robe was broken in order to get it fixed as soon as possible so that you could win an argument on the internet. And you used the robe too. That just blows my mind how someone could be that incredibley dense.
You may well try to convince yourself daily that somehow you are helping, but the plain and simple fact of the matter is you have nothing to bring to the table but an overwhelming desire to win arguments on the internet. Regardless of how accurate you are about the information you present as "fact". And that my friend is absolutley worthless.

ARCHIVED-hellfire · Jan 21, 2009

Xil wrote:

“Bigron@Unrest wrote:

“Arkinon wrote:

“Enoa@Kithicor wrote:

“Arkinon wrote:

“First off I cant believe im going to say this but Sarxil (Xil) is right. I have only been playing a Necro for about a month (betrayed from a conji) and with crap gear and no epic im rolling 3.5 to 4k (My high was 4.2k so far) on a raid. With Groups it can depend on the makeup but still can sit around the same. I have seen sarx post consistantly in the top 5 on the parse with an average around 5k and he isnt fabled out. There are occasions when he can hit 7 to 10k on raids named or trash. While I think Sarx has an ego the size of texas he unfortunatly can back it up (which is why no matter what I think about him he has a point). He may come across harsh and can make him look like an @$$ to some people, but he If he is willing to give advice on parcing better ill take it ego or not. Simply because I have seen him in action. If you looking for validation then there it is. But then again im still kinda new to the necro class so what do I know right. Just figuing out gear, AA and casting order has helped A LOT and Sarx even if indirectly has helped and proven at least to me we can put out respectable numbers WITHOUT the best gear.

Edited for spelling”

I thought he beat everyone but mythical'd assassins?
If you want validation that he doesn't know as much about this game as he pretends check out the other active thread in this class forum.
You'd get better advice asking someone else who understand proc mechanics, base damage vs. spell damage, and what piece of mind actually does.
Did he ask you to post this?”

Since you asked no he didnt. And on top of that I have seen first hand what he can do so I could give a ratonga's backside what you think. Your insinuation that im not sincere or straightforward in what I say reguardless of association is dissrespectful and insulting. All i know is what I see and I see a necro parsing in the top 5 consistantly (reguardless of the numbers) which I dont see anyone other Necros doing consistantly. I have stopped coming here for advice because All i see is a class complaing on how **** they are. I bought into it for a while and found that while yes we have some decent flaws BUT we are not as **** as people make us out to be. I could care less about all the other garbage we cant do. I am concentrating on the things we can! Given the fact I SEE what we are capable of I will do what I can to make myself better. My father had a saying "Your either part of the solution or your part of the problem " In this case discounting what someone says because you dont like them or think they are full of it without really trying it yourself to see what you may be doing wrong makes you part of the problem. Stop complaining and start doing then when you cant figure out why ask. Find the solution. If at that point you decide the data is wrong then you can call people on it. I could care less about the things he may not know but I am looking at the things he has proven (at least to me) that he DOES know. Until then... Until you take a hard look at YOUR faults as a player you dont have the right to insinuate im a liar.”

What if everyone discounts what he said....because for the most part everything he said was wrong.
Id like to think that he is the problem and not in the ball park of being part of the solution.”

You'd also like to think that plane shift added to every availible spell mod in the game at the highest level of progression isn't exagerating the effectiveness of a specific effect either.
You even went as far as to send the item dev a PM about how the robe was broken in order to get it fixed as soon as possible so that you could win an argument on the internet. And you used the robe too. That just blows my mind how someone could be that incredibley dense.
You may well try to convince yourself daily that somehow you are helping, but the plain and simple fact of the matter is you have nothing to bring to the table but an overwhelming desire to win arguments on the internet. Regardless of how accurate you are about the information you present as "fact". And that my friend is absolutley worthless.”

Wow man just let i go ......your getting beyound childish now....the robe is fixed...go play the game now with out broken items helping you along.

ARCHIVED-Darkevileyes · Jan 22, 2009

Wake up ! SOE never want alive summoner .
And already put necro to trash can .
In raid is not dps !!
Cant fast solo instant .
Out side name all degrade to 1 arrow .
Is it "Underpowered class"?
No! is useless class !

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