Burn: /GU Copper Star in 38s, 55988k @1473367 | Shadowknight 24268k@(638.6k in 38s) | Poyzen 21908k@(592.1k in 37s) | Paladin 6471k@(196.1k in 33s) | Wizard (Box) 3340k@(159.1k in 21s) 1hour: /GU Combined: An efreeti ambassador in 1891s, 841.1m @444790 | Poyzen + pets 354.9m@(187.7k in 1891s) | Shadowknight 295.4m@(156.2k in 1891s) | Paladin130.2m@(68847 in 1891s) | Bard 32005k@(16924 in 1891s) | Wizard (box) 28634k@(17105 in 1674s) This is just a sample of what Ive been seeing for a very long time. Could someone please share your numbers? Edit - Added 1 hour parse
It looks like Copper Star was harm touched on that 38 second parse, it's going to be very difficult for anyone to catch up to HT dps on a group mob. That doesn't mean he's sustaining that, I'm relatively certain his dps was well over a million at one point if you were monitoring live fights.
(Glyph) Visage Claret Wounding Reflex 1stSpire HT TL LT Dicho Dire rejuv Dicho Dire -- yeah pretty darn hard to beat if all you care about is like 7 seconds of damage
One parse is not representative. Especially one that is 38 seconds long. Your sustained is where you should look. And over 1 hour, you're out parsing the SK. I've been out parsed before by tanks. They enjoy sharing this as much as I enjoy taking aggro from them. My aggro-stealing ability is very situational, just as their parsing ability. How was the next mob? And the one after that? Long term, you'll out parse the tank.
Apologies for being so vague and perhaps my Subject title is a bit off. I don't like long posts so I tend to be short on details myself. This is just a sample but its accurate enough to say my DPS is only 30percent higher than the tank - long term. Tanks can take hits 100x better than me. In fairness I would expect my DPS to be the same multitude. My concern is I'm not tanking as well as I should OR im not DPSing as well as I should. I really want to know what my DPS should be and I'm hoping for some examples.
I can say your DPS stacks up to a mostly t2 group geared ranger with a chase bow. That SK harmtouch really adds up. Burn: /GU Stout Stone Beaten in 58s, 68814k @1186446sdps | Derka 39865k@687.3k sdps (752.2k dps in 53s) [57.93%] | Warrior + pets 13722k@236.6k sdps (240.7k dps in 57s) [19.94%] | Bard + pets 7280k@125.5k sdps (142.8k dps in 51s) [10.58%] | Ranger 5278k@90994sdps (97734dps in 54s) [7.67%] | Druid 2611k@45025sdps (62177dps in 42s) [3.79%] 1 hour w/ 3 named kills: /GU Combined: Stout Stone Beaten in 1872s, 846.7m @452296sdps | Derka + pets 342.4m@182.9k sdps (183.3k dps in 1868s) [40.45%] | Warrior + pets 210.6m@112.5k sdps (112.5k dps in 1872s) [24.88%] | Bard + pets 124.3m@66406sdps (66656dps in 1865s) [14.68%] | Ranger 105.2m@56181sdps (56301dps in 1868s) [12.42%] | Druid 62916k@33609sdps (34082dps in 1846s) [7.43%] | Cleric + pets 127k@67sdps (234dps in 163
rogue being right around warriors\SKs is about right. It's not "right" but it is where we are. That's why my 110 rogue w/ two ros raid weps lays unsubbed. You're only way to get back into the dps business as a rogue is to go and do blue con content.
You're not really expecting 100x more DPS than a tank are you? That's kind of unrealistic. You haven't said what weapon the SK is using. Is he using a 2h all the time? Are you burning every chance you have, or are you saving them for named only. Is he using burns whenever they're up?
I can totally agree with this. I'm using the burn set up as described in the ring. Perhaps this is outdated. Also …. Has there been a solid answer on the DEX /vs/ STR thing?
It's still crap dps...again unless you are doing FM blue con mobs You can have all those camps tbh....
If rogues are doing less DPS than tanks, then these rogues need to look at what they are doing because they are not doing things right.
Considering how big the tanking difference is I could some glass cannon tanking classes easily doing double tank DPS or more. Let backstab on rogue daggers match piercing damage again.
No SK can hang with a rogue unless duration is pretty short like your Copper Star. Here is a sustained parse on 4 TBL missions, just a rogue. No ADPS and some of it with no chanter haste and no haste at all. Not the best parse, but gives you an idea. /G Combined: A pyreglare armor in 1732s, 884.0m @510375sdps | #1 Rogue + pets 435.0m@251.2k sdps (251.5k dps in 1730s) [49.21%]
With TBL raid weapons and a wet dream adps group, SK can do over 600k over 500s on single target TBL mobs, i imagine warrior can go quite high too. there arent any parses from raid-geared rogues here and i know that in normal circumstances they will mop the floor with me.
SKs have always been devs favorite flavor. Part tank, part Necro, 100% evil (which makes them even more attractive). Nothing more to see here. Rogues need a DPS bump and haven't gotten it for 16 expansions. Sorry.
Not since Dragons of Norrath, eh? Definitely no Theif's Eyes, no Pinpoints or Marks, no Fellstrikes, Poison pair of discs, Hidden Blade procs, Puncture, Edge disc, Knifeplay, no AAs for Strike Fury & Flurry of Daggers & Lethality procs? no Rogue's Fury button? I mean yeah man, if you're going to stand around 8 minutes out of 10 crying while FStab & Twisted aren't running, you're going to look pretty effing bad as a rogue.
