Discussion in 'News and Announcements' started by EQ Dev, Jul 18, 2018.
Did this really need to be a 30 page debate ,it is really quite simple .
1: If you use a subprogram to influence a battle , "YOU ARE CHEATING" .
2: If you have some kind of hack to augment character stats , "YOU ARE CHEATING".
3: If you modify game programing to affect combat out come ,YOU ARE CHEATING
However the difference between cheating and EXPLOITS are two different things.
If you use an "Exploit to kill or pull" . Yes that is against the rules but it is still contained in the game.
If you have a "Box group" standing around killing pops "I see no game issues with that while mercs do the work ".
Parcing programs that let us all know who is working and who is slaking .Have NO influence on a battle ,"They help us know who has to step up and do more"
Lastly "Voice communication" is the greatest advantage to any game . If I had to type what is happening in a bad situation "you are probably already dead ". Eq provides that option ,and in honesty most use phone calls or 3rd party programs to do that ,but is does not change the in game environment ,make mobs weaker ,add stats ,remove ability's , change mob reactions or "affect in game programed mechanics"..
I know it is hard to get a solid group I got lucky since 2000 .I have always had at least 1 solid to play with every time I logged on. That grew to two or three just keep looking for people ,looking for people .
In closing anyone that cheats ,knows they are cheating .
Voice chat, antivirus, even music streaming.... All third party software. Program names excluded out of respect for the hush order.
I'll check back in another 5-6pages
I am too lazy to dig through 30 pages, have there been replies or additional statements by the devs beside the OP ?
lol you are probably right... however the reason we have 30 pages is the actual written rules read quiet differently then your outlined.
Every player is technically in violation. We're all probably fine running what we assume to be legal, even if its impossible for any of us to be within the guidelines of the rules the way they are written "technically".
No. Well, the one saying that they're going to post some guidelines eventually.
man... this thread is full of BS.
Everybody who makes statements without really saying which server they are on (TLP or Live) makes useless viewpoints if they generalize everything...
Because you can kiss "your" game good-bye if you point to life servers...
And it was intended for the oldies who could smoke "their" game years ago when SoE/DGB decided to give mercs out and the boxers a playfield...
so forget this complete stupid nonsense and grow up...
to write this line thousand times does not make it more true...
Boxer-Software was there since 10+ years. They will never forbid that and the rules are clear. Countless times recited in this thread and official from DGB site...
There is a difference between boxing and afk-botting...
Thank you !
Basically dont do what the devs dont tell you what to do and you wont get banned .... i think ...
I have used the autofire program while AFK in POK to raise spell casting skills
and in dreadlands to forage tradeskill items while AFK.
Please feel free to ban my nine accounts.
I do not feel like a cheater.
Not sure if they have banned for AFK foraging but that's definitely against the rules and could have action taken against the account.
Maybe they should make a preffered server where anything goes like EQ2 did. Move characters who violate their upcoming rules there. Keeps their profit stream flowing.
Must be a whole lot of cheating going on with so many pages of concern here lol.
Because the definition, what is cheating has changed over the last 20 years but some outdated and also some self-satisfied people still don't get it today and like to make their own ruleset and want to force everybody to play according to their sick classic-EQ-religious believes... it sounds partly like a sect here....luckily we have no democracy here... if I imagine these people in politics to satisfy their own ego... oh.. wait.... Trump... I forgot...
Automation is not forbidden "per se" so far, doing it while afk/not at the keyboard is... and it will change again if the recommendations from DGB will go public... and we will see how it is working then...
And yes, the most people use some kind of 3rd party program. Heck, there are still several discussed here for decades and now people complain about every program... ridiculous... one of the reasons why I avoid such players in game... and then they complain about nobody wants to group with them.. what a joke..
It would be really nice to get a Daybreak response instead of the constant bickering between 10 people.
Is it really even 10 people? I think 4 have made up the most of this and Daybreak has yet to post a naughty and nice list.
I thought some are using multiple accounts to repeat always the same melody...
Did I miss the last vote we had? This is not a democracy. It's a dictatorship with DBG being in charge. They make the rules and we live by them (or at least accept the consequences when caught).
Yep, and I am happy with that...
Hopefully they read more carefully than others if they read at all that whole crap here...
Separate names with a comma.