Test Server Update Notes : 7/1

FBVanu · Jul 24, 2014

patrykK1028 said: ↑

“You were right, they will nerf direct damage too but only to AP.
Its written in the first post, I cant copy that list (I am writing on my tablet) but its not hard to find ”

thx, first page of this thread.. duh me..

FBVanu · Jul 24, 2014

patrykK1028 said: ↑

“You were right, they will nerf direct damage too but only to AP.
Its written in the first post, I cant copy that list (I am writing on my tablet) but its not hard to find ”

So it will be a 57% decrease in Prowler HEAT splash... over 50% !!

Most of these weapons were just nerfed in April.. how does such a drastic nerf make any sense?

Scr1nRusher · Jul 25, 2014

look at peoples reactions to these changes and 7/2's.....

no one wants these changes.

Hajj Podge · Jul 28, 2014

Alarox said: ↑

“Fun facts regarding tank changes:

- Magrider FPC can no longer one-shot ESFs.
- Lightning AP doesn't even put ESFs into burning.
- Vanguard/Magrider/Lightning AP damage is reduced by ~14%, Prowler AP damage is reduced by 4%.
- Vanguard, Magrider, and Lightning AP all require one more shot to kill all MBTs.
- Magrider and Lightning AP require one more shot to kill Lightnings.
- Prowler AP TTK versus all tanks is the same, except 0.5s longer against the Vanguard's front armor.
- Vanguard with maxed out AP and Shield, versus Anchored Prowler with maxed out AP, the Vanguard can no longer win directly.
- Vanguard AP no longer even comes close to putting a Liberator into burning with 2 shots. It now takes a solid 3.

SOE, I would like for you to explain to us how these changes are supposed to make the game more enjoyable and balanced.

If I use HEAT, are you trying to get me to use AP?
If I use AP, are you trying to get me to use AP?
Or are you just trying to make me less effective no matter what I use?

If you want to nerf HEAT (for whatever reason) but want to keep HEAT as a viable option, then you should be buffing HEAT direct damage. Not nerfing AP direct damage.”

Knock it off, SOE. Jeeze Louise.

Zica96 · Jul 31, 2014

d_carey said: ↑

“Edit for clarity: This update is focused on the primary tank weapons, we will have some subsequent adjustments for the secondary tank weapons

Similar to the adjustments made with the Liberator belly guns, we are making adjustments to tank primary weapons, rocket launchers and the bulldog to make them less effective against infantry.
For the bulldog, blast damage is being adjusted so that the weapon requires more accurate shots. The air version will see a reduction in velocity, making it identical to the Zepher in that regard.

Blast damage reduced from 600 to 500

Inner blast radius reduced from 2 meters to 1 meter

Outer blast radius reduced from 6 meters to 5 meters

Air version only: Projectile speed reduced from 250 to 200 mps

For most Heavy Assault rocket launchers, the standard blast damage and inner blast radius are being reduced. This will make them incapable of a 1 hit kill against full health infantry with splash damage alone. In addition, this will cause max rank flak armor to prevent a 1 hit kill with direct hits:

Blast damage reduced from 1000 to 750

Blast radius reduced from 0.5 meters to 0.35 meters

Affected launchers

S1

Nemesis

Hades

Hawk

Shrike

Crow

Grounder

Skep Launcher

ML-7

Annihilator

Decimator

Blast damage reduced from 1000 to 650

Blast radius reduced from 0.5 meters to 0.35 meters

For tank primary weapons, we want to reduce the blast effectiveness of HEAT and HE, but this is problematic when effectiveness against infantry is typically what is considered to define them:

AP is anti-vehicle

HE is anti-personnel

HEAT is in between the two

Instead we want to push all three variants towards anti-vehicle with HEAT being the base line. Infantry effectiveness is reduced, but so is the anti-vehicle damage trade-off. This means:

AP

Direct damage will be reduced in cases where AP can destroy a tank in 2 less shots than HEAT (down to being 1 shot less).

HEAT

Inner blast damage is brought in closer and is no longer be able to 1 hit kill infantry

HE

Remove reload speed penalty

HE blast size reduced, but retains the ability to 1 hit kill infantry.

The size reduction will require more accurate shots than before to obtain the 1 hit kill

There are a few cases where direct hits from HE takes 2 additional hits to destroy a tank compared to HEAT. These will be increased so they just require just 1 additional round.

Line item changes:

Lightning

AP

Direct damage reduced from 1600 to 1400

HEAT

Blast damage reduced from 1000 to 750

HE

Time to reload reduced from 3750 to 3000

Direct damage increased from 1000 to 1100

Outer blast radius reduced from 8 meters to 5 meters

Inner blast radius reduced from 1.5 meters to 1 meter

Viper

Blast damage reduced to 450

Magrider

AP

Direct damage reduced from 1865 to 1600

HEAT

Blast damage reduced from 1000 to 750

Inner blast radius reduced from 1.5 meters to 1 meter

HE

Time to reload reduced from 4750ms to 3750ms

Outer blast radius reduced from 8 meters to 5 meters

Inner blast radius reduced from 2 meters to 1 meter

Vanguard

AP

Direct damage reduced from 2075 to 1800

HEAT

Blast damage reduced from 1000 to 750

Inner blast radius reduced from 1.5 meters to 1 meter

HE

Time to reload reduced from 4750ms to 4000ms

Outer blast radius reduced from 8 meters to 5 meters

Inner blast radius reduced from 2 meters to 1 meter

Prowler

AP

Direct damage reduced from 1250 to 1200

Blast damage reduced from 500 to 250

Heat

Blast damage reduced from 650 to 375

HE

Direct damage increased from 725 to 775

Time to reload reduced from 3500ms to 2500ms

Blast damage reduced from 650 to 500

Outer blast radius reduced from 8 meters to 5 meters

Inner blast radius reduced from 1.5 meters to 1 meter

”

What the hell is going on here? Why would you do something this awful??!! The lighting HEAT one is just terrible, and Prowler AP is horrible as well, are you guys just listening to the forumside these days and their whining???

Scr1nRusher · Jul 31, 2014

Zica96 said: ↑

“What the hell is going on here? Why would you do something this awful??!! The lighting HEAT one is just terrible, and Prowler AP is horrible as well, are you guys just listening to the forumside these days and their whining???”

forumside and redditside both freaked out over these changes.....

so yeah.... these changes are definitely not well received by the community.

Alarox · Aug 2, 2014

Why are you people still posting in an irrelevant thread?

Look at the 7/2 patch notes which override these.

Scr1nRusher · Aug 2, 2014

Alarox said: ↑

“Why are you people still posting in an irrelevant thread?

Look at the 7/2 patch notes which override these.”

Not the 7/1 rocket changes.

Also people are still wondering why they(the tank cannons) are even being changed in the first place

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