Infiltrators are op

You can reduce the effectiveness of the shield while still having it fit in with he class description

You could just just accept that the classes are clearly defined in their roles and that no amount of crying about it will change that.

You could just do that.

They are

And heavies are doing their role a little too well

By what standard?

Are infis stealthing too well?

Medics healing too well?

Engineers repairing too well?

You don't have any point to make beyond crying to try and justify a nerf.

Each of those classes has reasonable counters and weaknesses

Heavy assaults arent so much in that category but a slight change could help that

Link your char stats to confirm that you have enough experience to be taken seriously.

Ive played for 2 years and im a lvl 99

I focus on objectives more than KD but have Kd builds as well

Thats not particularly important to the subject though

And what? I have played for 3 years now and play the objective almost exclusively unless running logistics.

The fact you've played for 2 years and yet say what you say makes your nerf cries even more ridiculous. I'll link you my stats from the ps4 version as i don't want to fall out with pc friends http://ps4eu.ps2.fisu.pw/player/?name=terranaxiom notice how much i play the objective and yet barely use the HA?.

I come into fighting heavies constantly and yet have no issue. My k/d is a little lower on pc, my accuracy higher and all vehicle usage is more even.

Lets see your stats. I think i could tell you where you go wrong. If you play the objective then k/d matters more as you can't take or guard an objective while dead.

Quick question

Why say nerf cries and act so aggressively

Its rather rude and unproductive and lowers your character to almost a troll

Instead of using fighting words you could be productive

Fighting words?

Keep to the other thread please. Having 2 convos on the same subject in 2 different threads is pointless.

Thats what happens when you make a thread like this

I got the threads mixed up, i'm sure i'll lose sleep over it.

Still waiting on them stats.

This is a sarcastic thread but I think OP has an odd point. I've seen evidence of players being much sneakier than even the best Infiltrators I've met when they're not relying on their cloak. The cloak gives the wrong impression of stealth to players. Removing it might actually lead to a class revelation of some sort.

(Sadly, I don't think it would work for Light Assault and lead to a brilliant class update idea like the class needs. If you took away its jump jets, you would have nothing at all.)

As an engineer who targets sunderers ive learned to be sneaky without cloak

With cloak though its that much easier except that the sound can be a minus.

I hate snipers with a passion but they don't deserve that lol.

Infiltrator cloak is UP. They should be 100% invisible while cloaked, and to prevent hackers killing them while cloaked they should be invincible too when cloak is active. Also, the delay after they uncloak to start shooting is way too high, they should just be able to shoot while cloaked.

You know, that sounds like a really good sidegrade

I think I'd prefer a Chameleon type " cloak " so rather than making you invisible ( ish ) it would take on the rough appearance of what's behind you ... But only while not moving ...

I highly doubt it would be feasible due to technical reasons , but it would be nice to have a more " stealth " class rather than one that relies on quasi-invisibility to fake the stealth ..

Nonononono! I'm just learning how to creep up on people and knife them in the butt. Leave it be for a while. Getting filleted by an infil is so damned irritating I decided to be one! Don't deny me on this....blowing your worthless head off from a million meters with a OHK rifle is just not the same (seriously, not sarcastically).

I'll gladly give up Cloak in exchange for being able to use the Archer as my secondary.