Current gatekeeper is on par with the vulcan

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by ALN_Isolator, Sep 1, 2015.

  1. ALN_Isolator

  2. Campagne

    And both are extremely easy to use, while one has extremely long range.
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  3. HadesR

    Well since the Vulcan is the yard stick to measure what is " over buffed " then it might need tweaking down a touch :p
  4. SwornJupiter

    Why compare apples and oranges?
    Shouldn't the correct comparison be:
    Gatekeeper - Enforcer - Saron
    Vulcan - [VS Vulcan (forgot name)] - [new NC auto shotty thingo]
    ...?
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  5. HadesR


    Yeah ...

    Not 100% sure but a quick scan of Reddit puts the GK as the best of the three or close to it..
  6. ezaroo

    Just to point out the vulcan is the worst of the close range weapons against sunderers... The Mjolnir melts them and the Vanu weapon isn't far behind... Also the enforcer and the Saron take the same time as a vulcan to kill a sunderer (Saron slightly faster) try it yourself... So by that, the gatekeeper should kill a sunderer faster than a vulcan...

    Here come the numbers - TTK vs a sunderer

    Saron (no upgrades) - 14.05 s
    Saron (max reload) - 12.40 s
    Enforcer (no upgrades) - 12.90 s
    Enforcer (max reload) - 12.08 s
    Vulcan (no upgrades) - 12.57
    Vulcan (max mag size) - 12.54 s
    Vulcan (max reload) - 12.15 s

    So? What's your problem

    And just in case you are interested here are the TTKs for the gatekeeper before the recent buff,

    MR11 Gatekeeper (no upgrades) - 13.84 s
    MR11 Gatekeeper (max mag size) - 13.75 s
    MR11 Gare keeper (max reload) - 13.19

    As you can see, it needed it... I haven't tested the latest versions of the new AV weapons on test so don't have new numbers.

    But either way as you can see close range and long range AV is meant to kill sunderers in the same amount of time. Test it against a prowler, magrider, vanguard or lightning if you want to really test it.

    End of story.
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  7. Scr1nRusher


    Actually the "perfect scenario" of all shots hitting makes them on par with eachother.
  8. Ohmlink

    Which is why I agree with you that these results are pretty dubious at best. The gatecrasher will be most affected by misses and will likely be the worst performing of the bunch simply because the other two are point and click more or less.
  9. CMDante

    Looking forward to these new weapons. I actually like all of them and I hope no one ******* them into the ground.

    That being said; the NC's looks like butt and ours shoots too slowly to have 4 barrels. It's weird-looking
  10. LodeTria

    The harasser version has 10 extra rounds and can go up to 36. It can 1 clip stock-sunderers without mag size though, but all 30 have to hit.
  11. Hatesphere

    but the GK also has the fastest projectile velocity and almost no drop or bloom. its actually pretty good.
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  12. Disconsented

    Remember that the enforcer has a better TTK
  13. _itg


    True, but I think the point was, when the Vulcan-H was on PTS, everyone said it was overpowered, then it went live with no changes, and it was overpowered.* The same thing is about to happen with the Gatekeeper, unless the devs make a last minute tweak or two. This could easily lead to one of DBG's patented sledgehammer nerfs down the road.


    * It's cool that the devs are fixing the problem by giving NC/VS new guns on par with the Vulcan, but the balance problem existed for most of a year, all because the devs ignored player feedback.
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  14. ezaroo

    But the gatekeeper has the same TTK as the Saron and the Enforcer against a sunderer... That isn't OP... It just also happens to be the same as the Vulcan - the Vulcan isn't good against sunderers...
  15. WetPatch

    The current Gatekeeper is basicly a tank mounted Lancer, i have copyrighted the name The TRancer.

    It has No drop, or at least no drop within Render Range, It has Zero CoF or Bloom and its fully Automatic. Yet some people on Reddit are defending it has balanced.
  16. _itg


    The difference is that the Gatekeeper has 500 m/s velocity, 0 CoF, and very little drop. It's far from a trivial matter to land 100% of your shots with the enforcer on a moving target at long range, but it will be with the Gatekeeper. It's not possible to reach anywhere near max DPS with the Saron at range, but it will be with the Gatekeeper.
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  17. Raysen

    So, TR are getting a new OP weapon to **** players also at range instead of just zooming between the enemies with the Vulcan.

    Where is the surprise? Devs take care of not making TR have a boring gameplay. Now they can chose if win at distance or close range :p
  18. Lord_Avatar

    Don't worry guys - the Gatekeeper will be nerfed into the ground due to all the whining. It's a TR weapon after all. :rolleyes:
  19. Villanuk

    Like your max then ;)
  20. Scr1nRusher

    FYI guys the Harasser variant unintentionally has 10 more rounds then the MBT variant.
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