QA In Progress Call of the Veteran - RNG

Discussion in 'Bug Reports' started by Wulfgyr, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. Wulfgyr I've got friends in EQ2Wire places

    I know this is probably going to be considered a "minor" issue....

    but for the love of all that's holy, can we please get Call of the Veteran fixed so it actually works?! It may well be the straw that breaks the camel's back if I have to sit here and look at the "Teleport request pending...." message many more times.

    I appreciate the veteran reward, I do. I'd appreciate it even more if the damn thing actually worked.
  2. Sigrdrifa EQ2 Wiki Author

    It's nothing to do with the RNG. The most common reasons CoV fails is if one or the other of you are fighting, have aggro but not fighting yet, are on a transport such as the Shik'Nar mounts in The Blinding or a Griffon, if you are on an elevator that moves you from one floor to another.
  3. Wulfgyr I've got friends in EQ2Wire places

    The RNG mention was because it's a crapshoot getting it to work. As someone that two-boxes a lot, this definitely impacts my game.

    And apologies, but none of the examples you give are ones I've encountered, as I've generally got one character running an errand to a city, back to the guildhall for tradeskill ingredients that I missed due to a lack of levels, or other errands, while the other "holds" a spot wherever we were adventuring. I wouldn't even try to CoV, if both weren't in a "ready" state.
  4. Whilhelmina Well-Known Member

    yep, same here. It always fail when I try to CoV to CL for whatever reason for example.
  5. Merriel Well-Known Member

    I have to agree with the OP that some of the reasons it fails were not mentioned by Sigdrifa.

    One thing that my companions and I have learned, is that if the person you are trying to CoV to or from has been sitting idle for some time, from the active person's computers point of view, that idle person does not exist in the game. We have taken to ensuring we move not just one, but both parties around a little bit before attempting CoV. This has fixed a huge portion of our aggravation from CoV failures.

    It still tends to fail at times that it should not, but not as much as it used to.
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  6. Uwkete-of-Crushbone Well-Known Member

    Oh, for cryin' out loud. I can understand if you're currently engaged, but if you're just being chased or whatever, CoV would be the perfect rescue, like an Evac (most of which other than the Scouts' ability doesn't seem to work, either: "No, you can't escape a fight by Call to Home or Guild Hall. No, you can't escape by Fast Travel. No, you can't escape, because we don't want you to. Stay there and die, you whiny baby; repairs aren't that expensive."), So, basically, unless you're standing completely still, it won't work? The least they could do is have an alternate message, like, "We're sorry, that person can't answer your Call right now, but you've got a minute before it goes away; may we interest you in some lovely background tunes?" or something. :-/

    Uwk
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  7. Uwkete-of-Crushbone Well-Known Member

    "Sitting idle for some time" is now PTB-speak for "We're gonna ban their butts for going /afk and still twitching a bit. Their pet or mount or merc is twitching occasionally, that means they're obviously bots." (well, if you actually did something about Broker inflation, o PTBs, maybe you wouldn't have to worry about potential plat farmers...) I've "sat idle" for less than 2 minutes and been forced /afk, which always worried me. :-/

    So, yeah, I can see the game now thinking that anyone who's /afk for whatever reason ("Bio break! I'll be back to the instance in 3 minutes! No, I don't want to have to /camp to Character Select -- oh, bother...") doesn't exist these days. :-/

    Uwk
    who had a buddy who was falling victim to incessant chatter-boxes in a guild, and would deliberately go /afk to do rush writs and other crafting in peace and quiet...guess that's not allowed any more :-/
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  8. Merriel Well-Known Member

    Hehe, sitting afk next to the npc's in New Halas by the Erolissi shrine does not constitute someone going afk while camping mobs out in the world. Every time I walked by my computer, I sent my overseers out again, and when the Erolissi mission was completed, I would talk to the npc again. None of this can be done while botting. :D
  9. Merriel Well-Known Member

    I just realized, Uwk, that you were responding to a different post than the one I was thinking of.

    Yes, we do have characters that sit idle for a while at times. I have two accounts running and most of the time, my secondary account sits there idle while I adventure on Daemora. I use the secondary account as my "voice" in voice chat, because with all the zoning I do on Daemora and the game crashing so much of the time, if Daemora crashes, I can let my friends know immediately that she has crashed. They do the same thing.

    But there are times where we might be standing around for a PQ or something, and we don't want to leave the area, so we will switch over to the secondary account to do some things, then someone else will log in and want to CoV to us for the PQ or whatever it is we might be waiting on, and that is what I meant by standing idle.

    Being "idle", however, does not necessarily equate to any length of time. If the other person just logged on and my character was standing idle at the time they logged on (even if it was only a few minutes or so), and they try to CoV to my character, you can bet CoV is going to fail, because my character hasn't moved since they logged their character on, so their character (computer) does not recognize the existence of my character in the game yet.

    Therefore, it doesn't matter whether we were standing idle or not, we always move our characters on both sides before using CoV. There is less chance of failure then.
  10. Whilhelmina Well-Known Member

    mmmh, interesting. I had, as usual, massive troubles using CoV to reach the south graveyard in CL for Erollisi day, usually alting to another char on an account while the other char was waiting at PQ loc. And sometimes COV works, sometimes it fails. This would explain why even if the char standing in CL wasn't afk at all (but idle for the 1minute time frame used to alt and try to CoV). Thanks.
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  11. Merriel Well-Known Member

    I think, in that case, it may probably have been just one of those random CoV failures. If you moved your character at the PQ prior to alting over, then moved your alt toon that was already in game, then used CoV, it should have worked (but will still sometimes, randomly and for no apparent explanation, fail).

    If you just logged your alt toon in, and used CoV before moving the toon at the PQ location, CoV will likely fail since (from the alt's point of view), your PQ toon does not yet exist in the game for the alt toon. You should move them both around a bit, then use CoV.

    It's crazy, I know, but seems to be the case, as we don't seem to have as many CoV failures when we do this.
  12. Golum Active Member

    Yeah...still fails from time to time...
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  13. Ratalthor Developer

    We haven't been able to reproduce this issue internally. Is it still happening, and can anybody provide any additional info that can help us track it down?
  14. Whilhelmina Well-Known Member

    I used the "move with both alts" trick posted above and it hasn't failed in a while. I'll have to try again in CL when I remember it IG, it's the place where I always had the most trouble.

    You can't call to Coliseum of Valor too (I think the flag for a direct port there goes in the way).
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  15. Wulfgyr I've got friends in EQ2Wire places

    Thanks @Ratalthor!

    I've gone f2p on both accounts and usually only log in about once a week now, but I'll try to remember to test a few locations. It's been awhile and if I can't remember specifics, I'll try a few random zones like Plane of Innovation, the paths in Sol Ro, etc.
  16. Carynn Well-Known Member

    Used this twice on June 29 on Skyfire server, once in two different zones, once in the same zone. Character Kenethen calling to Bassnote, both in the same zone, trying to use CoV between islands:

    (1593456347)[Mon Jun 29 13:45:47 2020] You have entered The Barren Sky.
    (1593456348)[Mon Jun 29 13:45:48 2020]
    You can claim your 500 DBC by using the command /allaccess claim.
    (1593456348)[Mon Jun 29 13:45:48 2020]
    You can claim your 500 DBC by using the command /allaccess claim.
    (1593456361)[Mon Jun 29 13:46:01 2020] requires Priest
    (1593456378)[Mon Jun 29 13:46:18 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    And here are some various other times I've tried to use it on HoF:

    Carynn to Roshaun in the Phantom Seas near Highhold-

    (1576960954)[Sat Dec 21 13:42:34 2019] You loot \aITEM 875451656 -1621963438:large brilliant erollisi petal\/a from the corpse of a risen Shralok.
    (1576960959)[Sat Dec 21 13:42:39 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.
    (1576960965)[Sat Dec 21 13:42:45 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.
    (1576960971)[Sat Dec 21 13:42:51 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.
    (1576960978)[Sat Dec 21 13:42:58 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.
    (1576960983)[Sat Dec 21 13:43:03 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.
    (1576960989)[Sat Dec 21 13:43:09 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.
    (1576960995)[Sat Dec 21 13:43:15 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.
    (1576961001)[Sat Dec 21 13:43:21 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.
    (1576961007)[Sat Dec 21 13:43:27 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.
    (1576961013)[Sat Dec 21 13:43:33 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.
    (1576961019)[Sat Dec 21 13:43:39 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.
    (1576961025)[Sat Dec 21 13:43:45 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.
    (1576961031)[Sat Dec 21 13:43:51 2019] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 23311 points of absorption.

    (1576961035)[Sat Dec 21 13:43:55 2019] Teleport Request Pending...

    Akutsu to Roshaun -

    (1494795759)[Sun May 14 16:02:39 2017] You have entered Kylong Plains.
    (1494795781)[Sun May 14 16:03:01 2017] Guildmate: Kurapica has logged out.
    (1494795796)[Sun May 14 16:03:16 2017] Guildmate: Roshaun has logged in.
    (1494795806)[Sun May 14 16:03:26 2017] You invite roshaun to group with you.
    (1494795809)[Sun May 14 16:03:29 2017] You form a group with Roshaun.
    (1494795848)[Sun May 14 16:04:08 2017] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1494795861)[Sun May 14 16:04:21 2017] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1494795875)[Sun May 14 16:04:35 2017] You say, "Hail, A sokokar tamer"
    (1494795875)[Sun May 14 16:04:35 2017] \aNPC 55263 a sokokar tamer:a sokokar tamer\/a says, "This would be a good place to hitch your Sokokar, if only you had one, friend."
    (1494795929)[Sun May 14 16:05:29 2017] You have discovered Ryjesium Peaks.

    Earlene to Eugene -

    (1590182773)[Fri May 22 16:26:13 2020] You say, "Hail, Alishinu"
    (1590182773)[Fri May 22 16:26:13 2020] \aNPC 148241 Alishinu:Alishinu\/a says to you, "If you're willing, I need you to speak with Taliseda. Let her know that I will be with her soon, and I will show proof that something is amiss."
    (1590182774)[Fri May 22 16:26:14 2020] You say to Alishinu, "Do you think she will accept that explanation?"
    (1590182775)[Fri May 22 16:26:15 2020] \aNPC 148241 Alishinu:Alishinu\/a says to you, "Granted, this is out of the norm for our society. I don't expect her to be amenable to my suggestion, but I am hoping that an exception can be made."
    (1590182775)[Fri May 22 16:26:15 2020] You say to Alishinu, "Then I will see what I can do. Farewell for now."
    (1590182777)[Fri May 22 16:26:17 2020] YOUR Reprieve regenerates 165639 points of absorption.
    (1590182784)[Fri May 22 16:26:24 2020] YOUR Reprieve regenerates 165639 points of absorption.
    (1590182790)[Fri May 22 16:26:30 2020] YOUR Reprieve regenerates 165639 points of absorption.
    (1590182791)[Fri May 22 16:26:31 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Eriston to Roshaun -

    (1494803904)[Sun May 14 18:18:24 2017] You have entered Qeynos Capitol District.
    (1494803937)[Sun May 14 18:18:57 2017] You invite roshaun to group with you.
    (1494803945)[Sun May 14 18:19:05 2017] You form a group with Roshaun.
    (1494803955)[Sun May 14 18:19:15 2017] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1494803956)[Sun May 14 18:19:16 2017] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1494803962)[Sun May 14 18:19:22 2017] YOU are hit for 1143 falling damage.

    (1494803974)[Sun May 14 18:19:34 2017] You have entered Kylong Plains.

    Kurapica to Carynn in the Phantom Seas (which isn't a travel zone on the map, so I had to go back to Qeynos to get there)

    (1576960540)[Sat Dec 21 13:35:40 2019] You say to Naylie DelANews, "Maybe later. Why would they have a vial of pure ethereal magic just lying around?"
    (1576960540)[Sat Dec 21 13:35:40 2019] \aNPC 128626 Naylie DelANews:Naylie DelANews\/a says to you, "Suit yourself. So good! Oh, those Ghorkaal dark elves mess with the undead a lot. I would be amazed if they didn't have it. "
    (1576960540)[Sat Dec 21 13:35:40 2019] You say to Naylie DelANews, "Okay! I will be back! Stop eating that ink!! "
    (1576960559)[Sat Dec 21 13:35:59 2019] You have consumed the item.
    (1576960559)[Sat Dec 21 13:35:59 2019] You have chosen to give this character a 6 year veteran reward.
    (1576960560)[Sat Dec 21 13:36:00 2019] You can bring up the item claiming window at any time using /claim.
    (1576960564)[Sat Dec 21 13:36:04 2019] You have taken \aITEM 1797202238 1564631907:Hammer of Adept Hands\/a from \aITEM 281161183 116359994:Veteran Reward - 6 year\/a.
    (1576960564)[Sat Dec 21 13:36:04 2019] You have taken \aITEM -1745887054 2036377460:Call of the Veteran\/a from \aITEM 281161183 116359994:Veteran Reward - 6 year\/a.
    (1576960564)[Sat Dec 21 13:36:04 2019] You have taken \aITEM 2024622621 -154601863:Fate Accessory Bag\/a from \aITEM 281161183 116359994:Veteran Reward - 6 year\/a.
    (1576960564)[Sat Dec 21 13:36:04 2019] You have taken \aITEM -30646346 -770247723:Wand of Forgiveness\/a from \aITEM 281161183 116359994:Veteran Reward - 6 year\/a.
    (1576960581)[Sat Dec 21 13:36:21 2019] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1576960605)[Sat Dec 21 13:36:45 2019] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1576960606)[Sat Dec 21 13:36:46 2019] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1576960625)[Sat Dec 21 13:37:05 2019] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1576960632)[Sat Dec 21 13:37:12 2019] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1576960635)[Sat Dec 21 13:37:15 2019] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1576960652)[Sat Dec 21 13:37:32 2019] You have entered Qeynos Province District.

    Sundance, Butche and Ettta, bringing Ettta to GFay -

    (1494875770)[Mon May 15 14:16:10 2017] You say to Matron of the Nursery, "Thank you."
    (1494875806)[Mon May 15 14:16:46 2017] You are thirsty but have not selected anything to drink.
    (1494875959)[Mon May 15 14:19:19 2017] Unknown command: 'lcaim'
    (1494875980)[Mon May 15 14:19:40 2017] You have consumed the item.
    (1494875980)[Mon May 15 14:19:40 2017] You have chosen to give this character a 6 year veteran reward.
    (1494875981)[Mon May 15 14:19:41 2017] You can bring up the item claiming window at any time using /claim.
    (1494875986)[Mon May 15 14:19:46 2017] You have taken \aITEM 1797202238 1658976090:Hammer of Adept Hands\/a from \aITEM 281161183 116359994:Veteran Reward - 6 year\/a.
    (1494875986)[Mon May 15 14:19:46 2017] You have taken \aITEM -1745887054 2036377460:Call of the Veteran\/a from \aITEM 281161183 116359994:Veteran Reward - 6 year\/a.
    (1494875986)[Mon May 15 14:19:46 2017] You have taken \aITEM 2024622621 832634408:Fate Accessory Bag\/a from \aITEM 281161183 116359994:Veteran Reward - 6 year\/a.
    (1494875986)[Mon May 15 14:19:46 2017] You have taken \aITEM -30646346 970050002:Wand of Forgiveness\/a from \aITEM 281161183 116359994:Veteran Reward - 6 year\/a.
    (1494876004)[Mon May 15 14:20:04 2017] Teleport Request Pending...

    These are random ones I found in my logs using the search function for "Teleport request pending..." Other folks, if you would add from your own logs to the thread, since the devs can't seem to reproduce something that happens pretty much every day for someone.
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  17. Carynn Well-Known Member

    Tested today July 3, on HoF server, between Carynn and Roshaun. Roshaun is standing in The Barren Sky by the spire, Carynn is in North Qeynos in the Ironforge Exchange. Roshaun calls to bring Carynn to him -

    (1593786756)[Fri Jul 3 09:32:36 2020] You have entered The Barren Sky.
    (1593786763)[Fri Jul 3 09:32:43 2020] YOUR Scaled Protection has applied to YOU as a critical ward for 11,711,773.
    <snip repeated scaled protection>
    (1593786941)[Fri Jul 3 09:35:41 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593786942)[Fri Jul 3 09:35:42 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Carynn is now at the Druid Rings in Sinking Sands. Roshaun is still in Barren Sky near the spire. Roshaun calls to bring Carynn to him-

    (1593787072)[Fri Jul 3 09:37:52 2020] YOUR Scaled Protection regenerates 293229 points of absorption.
    (1593787074)[Fri Jul 3 09:37:54 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593787075)[Fri Jul 3 09:37:55 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Carynn is now in Sundered Frontier by the spire. Roshaun is in Barren Sky. Carynn calls to bring Roshaun to him. -

    (1593787230)[Fri Jul 3 09:40:30 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593787231)[Fri Jul 3 09:40:31 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Carynn is still in SF. Roshaun is in TT by the spire. Carynn calls to bring Roshaun to him -

    (1593787303)[Fri Jul 3 09:41:43 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593787304)[Fri Jul 3 09:41:44 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Carynn is in SF. Roshaun is in TS at the docks. Carynn tries to travel to Roshaun -

    (1593787492)[Fri Jul 3 09:44:52 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593787493)[Fri Jul 3 09:44:53 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Courtin is in J Wastes in Dracur's Breath, away from the druid rings. Dariune is in Nek Forrest, away from the druid rings. Dariune calls Courtin to her -

    (1593787778)[Fri Jul 3 09:49:38 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593787779)[Fri Jul 3 09:49:39 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Courtin has moved to the Lavastorm beach off the docks. Dariune is still in Nek. Dariune tries to travel to Courtin -
    (1593787891)[Fri Jul 3 09:51:31 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Courtin has moved to Commonlands outside of Fallen Gate. Dariune is in Falinpol in Vesspyr Isles. Courtin calls Dariune to him -

    (1593788043)[Fri Jul 3 09:54:03 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593788044)[Fri Jul 3 09:54:04 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Courtin is still outside Fallen Gate in the CL. New group member Elain is in his house in Freeport. Courtin tries to bring Elain to him -

    (1593788153)[Fri Jul 3 09:55:53 2020] Guildmate: Elain has logged in.
    (1593788185)[Fri Jul 3 09:56:25 2020] You have joined the group.
    (1593788188)[Fri Jul 3 09:56:28 2020] YOUR Aura of Leadership regenerates 1167594 points of absorption.
    (1593788218)[Fri Jul 3 09:56:58 2020] YOUR Aura of Leadership regenerates 1167594 points of absorption.
    (1593788242)[Fri Jul 3 09:57:22 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593788243)[Fri Jul 3 09:57:23 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Elain moves to TDeep near Trainer Charkin Myli'Dock. Courtin has moved to The Feerrot by Murdunk Falls. Elain tries to call Courtin to him -

    (1593788308)[Fri Jul 3 09:58:28 2020] \aNPC 100389 Trainer Charkin Myli'Dok:Trainer Charkin Myli'Dok\/a says to you, "I am able to answer any questions you have about collections or harvesting."
    (1593788406)[Fri Jul 3 10:00:06 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593788408)[Fri Jul 3 10:00:08 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593788410)[Fri Jul 3 10:00:10 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Standing in the same spots, Elain tries to travel to Courtin -

    (1593788491)[Fri Jul 3 10:01:31 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593788492)[Fri Jul 3 10:01:32 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Tadruos is in GFay in Kelethin outside the bank. Yosei is in DLW inside the Sableflame Crater. Tadruos tries to travel to Yosei -

    (1593789295)[Fri Jul 3 10:14:55 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593789296)[Fri Jul 3 10:14:56 2020] YOUR Dozekar's Resilience regenerates 287197 points of absorption.
    (1593789297)[Fri Jul 3 10:14:57 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Yosei is in Planes of Magic near the Signature Quest giver. Tadruos is still in Kelethin outside the bank. He tries to bring her to him -

    (1593789389)[Fri Jul 3 10:16:29 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Yosei is in Planes of Magic near the Signature Quest giver. Uriahn is in Planes of Magic at Valor's Roost. Uriahn tries to travel to Yosei -

    (1593789574)[Fri Jul 3 10:19:34 2020] Teleport Request Pending...
    (1593789575)[Fri Jul 3 10:19:35 2020] Teleport Request Pending...

    Times that it worked today were the first two I tried (once I switched to Roshaun, it didn't work ever again):

    Kurapica on KP docks, Carynn in NQ in Ironforge exchange. Kurpica travels to Carynn using his call. Preshius in Guild Hall in SQ. Carynn in NQ in Ironforge exchange. Preshius travels to Carynn using her call.

    I can do more, as I have thirty-odd toons to test with, but this should be enough from me. Considering I tested this today in various locations with various toons, and it worked only twice, makes me curious as to how it was tested by the devs when it's obviously not working!
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  18. Rosyposy Well-Known Member

    Buy "Return to Highhold" baubles on Mara or in Tranquil Sea for the easiest way to get to Naylie... :)
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  19. Chris Thompson Active Member


    Thanks for checking into this.
    Just now I tried summoning one (ftp) character. The caster was in Kylong Plains and the target was in the Sanctum of the Duality. I got the portal, I got the message to the target, but no teleport. The target character then used a Return to Mara stone, and I tried summoning again. Same result- portal, option to travel or summon, got popup at the target character, but no teleport.
    I'm not sure screenshots will tell you anything, but here's the sequence.
    https://1drv.ms/u/s!As_jQ9JL6ExkhHb8IkkBh3TnQ0Q_?e=QG096V

    Thanks again

    Chris
  20. Mercychalice Well-Known Member

    Other causes of COV failure: 1) Trying to summon/zone to someone too close to a zone entrance. 2) Trying to summon/zone someone somewhere an access quest has been required to grant access to a zone, regardless of whether access has been completed on those toons. 3) Trying to summon/zone into raid zones. 4) Trying to summon/zone to someone with a different persistent lockout timer. 5) Trying to summon/zone to specialized instances where only one toon is allowed.

    However, there are some times it actually bugs out though, and just won't go to someone even when no fail conditions are present.
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