Spitballing: a wacky idea concerning TR carbines.

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by Dualice, Jun 23, 2015.

  1. Dualice

    Scrap the TRAC-5.

    Make the LC3 Jaguar the default carbine.

    Reintroduce a 143/800 carbine to fill the gap in the arsenal.

    Okay hear me out.

    The TRAC-5 is mostly an inferior version of the Jaguar. Worse hipfire CoF, more unpredictable horizontal recoil, inferior selection of attachments, lower ADS movement speed multiplier. Ask any TR trooper which they'd prefer over the TRAC-5 and the Jaguar - I'd be very surprised if anyone went for the TRAC-5.

    The TR is the only faction without a fast-firing (800+) 143 tier carbine. The 909/125 Lynx is a monster for sure, but comes with the issues inherent of 125-tier weaponry. In fact there seems to be a minority that believe the old Lynx was superior. I never had enough experience with it to give an opinion, but there ya go.

    Having two 143/750 carbines, thus basically doing the same thing (only one does it a bit better), just seems a bit... pointless. Removing the inferior one, and replacing it with a 143 damage, 800 RoF intermediary sounds pretty appealing to me.

    You'd have to rename the burst and "S" variant carbines, of course.
  2. Iridar51

    TRAC 5 has longer effective range than Jaguar. I don't know where you pulled "more unpredictable horizontal recoil" from, but it's not the case. There is a steep recoil angle, but with variance of only 2 degrees, it's nothing terrible. If you think about it, TRAC 5 has horizontal recoil just a bit worse than T5 AMC, while having much higher DPS.

    On overall power scale TRAC 5 is lower, but it's not because TRAC 5 itself is bad, it's the Jaguar that's so good.

    I'd rather they buffed Lynx's bloom and DPS.
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  3. BrbImAFK

    Hey, look! It's a TR that isn't complaining they're UP while simultaneously screaming for VS nerfs! And using a logical argument to support his position!

    [IMG]

    +1 NS Cookies for you! :p
  4. FateJH

    I still like my TRAC 5, and it's still a good weapon.
  5. Takoita

    TRAC-5 is a damn excellent weapon. It both gives solid perfomance in the hands of a complete newbie and gets better as the player wielding it gets better. I'd rather not muck that up.
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  6. Pelojian

    If you don't like the Trac 5 buy the Jaguar and use it instead. It'll be faster you'll get the gun you want and the rest of us can start with the Trac 5 and judge for ourselves.
  7. TerminalT6

    I agree that 143@800 is a weird gap to have in the TR arsenal. Not sure that I would rearrange the TRAC family's stats to fill it. I don't know what I would change, short of adding a new round of carbines.
  8. Goretzu

    You could do that change, but there is no real gap in the arsenal, the Lynx more than fills that role:

    Serpent VE92 | Q4 KPH | Daily Average: 20.28
    GD-7F | Q4 KPH | Daily Average: 21.82
    LC2 Lynx | Q4 KPH | Daily Average: 21.97


    Carbine RoF
    LOW - 500 550-550 577-577 600-600-600 632 652-652 653 698-698-698-698 723 750-750-750-750 800845-845 909- HIGH
    Carbine DPbullet
    LOW - 125 143-143-143-143-143-143-143-143-143-143-143-143-143-143-143 167-167-167-167-167-167-167-167 200 - HIGH
    NC VS TR NS


    It is fairly unlikely that they could buff the TRAC-5 up to 800 RoF without equally nerfing its ranged ability.

    http://ps2oraclestats.com/?stat=q4kph&weapon1=43&weapon2=3&weapon3=44
    TRAC-5 | Q4 KPH | Daily Average: 18.25
    AF-19 Mercenary | Q4 KPH | Daily Average: 19.10
    Solstice VE3 | Q4 KPH | Daily Average: 18.81