Lower the price of 1000 cert max/infantry weapons to 750-800 certs

AA should be cheaper.

AV should be lower priced aswell.

Players NEED to be able to afford counters.

1. No.
2. No.

But then again, these changes are aimed at the new players. Existing players weren't really considered in this patch since they have most of the weapons and probably won't purchase anything anyway.

But let's just pretend I'm a new player.
This is how I would respond:

1. No.
2. No.

But you haven't reduced inconsistency. You just increased prices, without bringing things down(other than a few vehicle weapons).

VS for example, starts with a free Pulsar VS1. It has 143dmg, 698 RoF, easy enough recoil. CME and Equinox OTOH, have the same damage, RoF, roughly the same recoil, and cost 650 and 1000 certs.

How is that consistent? They are obviously minutely different, side-grade weapons, that no one in their right mind would spend that many certs on when they get such a similar gun free.

If all weapons are intended to be side-grades, I don't see why you have any price disparity. Why not:

ES Infantry Primaries: 750 certs
NS Primaries: 1000 certs
ES Sidearms: 500 certs
NS Sidearms: 750 certs

etc.

NS being more expensive makes sense considering they're a for-profit business sort of deal rather than your own empire that depends on you to fight for it.

And then the only thing left to do is seriously evaluate the starting weapons. Your veteran players could easily choose more new player friendly default weapons than the current ones. The SAW -> GD-22S for example is a no-brainer at this point. And the semi-auto snipers that TR and VS start with should be changed to the bolt action equivalents of what NC gets.

Ideally, everyone starts with user friendly all-rounder weapons, and then have to spend to specialize once they've got the hang of things and when to pull X or Y weapon.

But the SAW is a specialized weapon, and NC now has to pay more to unlock a gun with easier handling.

The new 100 certs / BR 2-15 is a nice change, but at the same time you've taken away early access to some fundamentals by increasing prices dramatically on things like close-range infantry guns, second AI/ AV MAX weapon, lock-on launchers, etc.

Tempted to get ps2 on my friend's ps4 just to pull libs and pound the piss out of new players @ launch so they quit.

BR1-10 is enough for a Duster. + NAR

VS pls stop killing the game.

This probably won't be good for the (New) player retention rates.
After all, players aren't to be blamed if former SOE never touched the price tags for weapons. then all of a sudden, you see weapons suffer price increases of 300%.

Badly played.

I disagree with you on this one for a few reasons. Primarily if they where cheaper given the current say debat about max ai balancing I think they should stay where they are. Max units are very specialised for their role and while I do think that maybe down the line they could use a repricing, even if its only saving an extra 100 certs but at this time no. People are complaining far too much about VS max ai, if they where cheaper, more people would complain. My thoughts.

I think Max weapon prices have always been too high just by virtue of them being borderline useless if they're not matched.

800 certs each would be absolutely fine, that is still 1600 total to open up a new role.

If there is anything anyone should be nervous about more people having its those spammy Ravens that the NC spew at infantry more than vehicles.

Farming an extra 200 certs is like what...an extra hour or so of game play? Just play the game.

That's only if you're running a membership and/or boost. To a completely free player, that takes a long time. Raising cert costs across the board while not decreasing smedbucks cost to go along with it is only going to give newbies an even bigger impression of P2W. The stupidly high weapon prices and relatively low cert gain for F2P are already two of the main reasons this game flopped on PC. This does absolutely nothing but make the problem worse. DBG have effectively shot themselves in the foot before the race has even begun. They have already set this game up for failure on PS4. But realistically, could you really expect anything less from a developer as incompetent as DBG?

Well I mean technically it's probably better for people to realize earlier that they're nothing but fodder for people with more gameplay options. Just cert out that med tool or repair gun and make sure real customers can fill the cool roles, like AA, MAX, flying a plane with more than the most basic guns, or use specialized infantry weapons. But somewhat new players? I guess you expect all those mid-BR types you specifically aren't retro-actively giving those free starting certs to reroll? Because right now they get almost nothing but shafted .

Hell, speaking of specialized, I would not at all surprised if DBG decided to remove the free Mauler/Thanatos/Barrage that new players start with at the moment. I mean, they quadrupled the cost of the Sweeper/Nova/Haymaker. Now that every other shotgun costs 1000 certs, what could possibly be more inconsistent than having one that costs absolutely nothing?

Maybe also consider making Infiltrators start with Stalker cloak and no primary weapon? Since even the cheapest rifle is like 300+ certs now, it would mean new players get to grind more on that front too instead of accidentally being able to start with one class that can do something other than charge into infantry meatgrinders or support their betters.

Let's call a spade a spade here. All this change does, and might actually have been intended to do, is to make it harder for new players to branch out their options, to make being a Free player feel more limiting to try and squeeze money out of people. Those 100 certs per level up to BR 15 are just obfuscation, they in no way make up for all the cost hikes across the board. But hey, new players won't know the old costs and might go "Oh, this is a F2P game that gives even free players a helping hand."

Quite cunning actually.

The only saving grace is that most starter guns for infantry are at least moderately well designed and pretty nice to use. Not all, but most.

No once did you mention the reason(s) for this change.

How/why does the pricing need to be at a happy medium?
What do you mean by happy medium?
Why is a happy medium required?
Why is inconsistency bad, what does it mean in this context?
How would this provide a better ongoing experience for new and somewhat new players?
What was the issue you were trying to address with this change?

Nice to see you posting, but when you reply like this it really does a lot more harm to DBG than good. If you want us to spend more money, try treating us with respect. You know, happy customers = good business, and all that.

If you just would have said this is to encourage people to use DBG cash due to a need to increase revenue then, fine, but you probably should have been CONSISTENT in the pricing of both weapons and cosmetics. That -1 DB coin on weapons just made me want to roll my eyes, for example. If you had actually reduced DB coin price for weapons too then I am pretty sure people would have reacted differently. Indeed, a long standing issue with the pricing of weapons could have been fixed. You might even see a lot more players paying to get weapons.

If you want lowered the DB coin price across the board with the 100cert/BR change, then I am sure you'd see a very different reaction. I mean, I was looking forward to see where the weapon prices would land... But instead of spending something, I decided to spend nothing.

RadarX realized what he had said was crap (just like the grammar in this sentence I think?). I am sure he knows it. His argumentation is soo ******* weak, just empty PR talk. "Yes we planned it, yes we were right, yes the change is liked by the players, yes such doge, much wow, very amaze, such smedlie, much nice, so mlg, very doge."

The first and ONLY intention was building up the "necessarity" (or take down barriers) for new players to spend money on the game. They will never ever admit it, but it´s totally clear. I won´t say that this is bad, this game needs such players. But not at the expense of free players by this large margin.
If RadarX will answer now, he will only say that this is not true, but he won´t be able to prove otherwise. I bet 10 hard earned certs, that his explainings will be unlogical (WHEN he answers after such a failed message). We´ll see...or not.

And this was the part I lost my dead serious face. I don´t need my bullshiit detector to detect that...

I started out as a F2P player. Once I maxed out my Med tool (Maybe two weeks worth of playing?) I was able to farm around 200 certs a day, in maybe a 4-6 hour time period. It can be done.

Except that DBC is now cheaper and membership is better.

They'll pay.

10 hard earned certs lol.

1/10

Memberships and buying SC to buy AA didn't keep people form leaving on launch so i beg to differ.

Console people are not spoilt brats and do and will love planet side 2.

Your differing is invalid.

Edit: When memes wont work -.-*



Edit2: I'm gonna make them work

PC gaming is riddled with spoilt brats now and a ridiculous nerf/buff culture.

It used to be great.

I have both platforms anyway..