Remove "Trowing" C4 like a Grenade.

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by Dreez, Aug 27, 2013.

  1. Astealoth

    and what exactly would prevent someone from throwing a brick of plastic explosives? your complaint makes no sense.
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  2. Haterade

    Actually, as a plastic explosive, C4 is incredibly stable. C4 needs two things to explode: heat and pressure. As long as you don't set it on fire first, you can throw it around rather safely. You can also set it on fire to cook your dinner. Just don't stamp the fire out when you're done.

    You don't see it thrown around in real life like you do in this game because it doesn't magically stick to whatever you throw it onto in real life. You can't really toss it at a moving tank, for example.
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  3. Kulantan

  4. Aegie

    You alread cannot throw C4 like a grenade.

    Also, do you realize that you could throw pre-prepared (read: with detonator inserted) C4 as far as your arm will let you IRL right? As long as the detonator does not dislodge and you do not throw the thing so far that it is out of range of the transmitter then you could throw a block of prepared C4 as far as you want- hell, you could probably fashion a C4 launcher if you wanted to as it is a very stable explosive.

    Why do you have to be careful with C4? One of the primary advantages of C4 is that it is highly stable- you cannot shoot it to blow it up, you can even burn it like plastic and it will not explode, only the combination of intense heat + shockwave (read: a detonator) will set off C4.

    Funny thing is that IRL you absolutely could throw C4 like a tennis ball, or baseball, but unless you are playing a very different game you cannot throw C4 in PS2. In PS2 you basically just drop C4 and yeah if you're airborn with momentum and angle yourself right then it might get tossed all of 5-10m.

    They have nerfed C4 enough and more indirect nerfs to LA is just embarassing.
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  5. Aegie

    You can actually set it on fire and let it burn (like plastic) and be just fine- you need intense heat + shockwave in order for it to detonate. You can also stamp it out all you want when it is on fire because the heat is not hot enough and the shockwave produced by your stomping is not strong enough.

    Yes, IRL, a properly prepared brick of C4 could be thrown as far as your arm will let you without an issue, or launched out of a catapult for that matter. Hell, you could probably fashion a C02 powered launcher if you wanted to use it that way.
  6. Haterade


    Meh. I guess it depends on what generation of C4 you're talking about. Either way, it's incredibly stable and the OP is silly.
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  7. ReformerTR

    WTF??? lol
  8. Dreez

    If LA's are all about dropping C4 on targets, then SoE failed giving LA's a useful spot,
    simple as that. But that doesn't give them the reason to make players able to throw
    C4 like its a grenade. And as you can see by the movie, C4 can very well be tossed
    great distances, which it shouldn't.

    Make it work just like placing an amo-crate. LA's shouldn't be about running past a doorway,
    throw in a C4 and then detonate it for cheap kills. LA's job in PS2 is about Blitzkrieg and accessing
    bases over walls, surprising the enemy from directions not prepared for...

    C4 should be used to first and foremore destroy turrets and unguarded stationary large vehicles,
    NOT be handled like a grenade.
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  9. Phazaar


    This whole sentiment smacks of 'ESFs are MEANT to be air superiority fighters, they have no place shooting at ground targets.' It's a personal bias, it has no relevance to the game, flies in the face of good balance and game mechanics, and what's more, isn't even a realistic concept, much less one that ought to be ported to a game....
  10. TeknoBug

    Months ago you used to be able to toss a C4 over the base fence, can't do that anymore- let alone throwing it like a grenade... in what world are you from?

    Oh yeah pull out an OLD video... haha, try that NOW.

    Second on medic + C4... :cool: not an easy feat.
  11. Hosp

    Your lack of personal ability, namely situational awareness, does not warrant nerfing all LAs. Also, the few who manage to "toss" C4 properly must have great skill themselves, it's not as easy as it looks.
  12. KenFGX

    We have soldiers with jetpacks, rifles that shoot laser, anti-gravity tanks, healing guns that could cure cancer, revive the dead, etc, and u expected that C4 works the same way as it used to be ?
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  13. lothbrook

    C4 use in this game has reach absurd levels, everyone carries it and its thrown about like candy, maybe if they just stop letting people stock up it'd be fine requiring you to manage infantry resources would be nice.
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  14. Hosp

    Actually, it look like they're doing it opposite with future resource plans. Noone will need to stock up anything and will just need to resupply to reload everything...C4 included. But that's at a cost of base resources. (Also not finalized or currently being worked on due to the shift to game optimization.)

    That being said, A few to many classes do have C4 and shouldn't. IMO it should only have been, Infils, LAs and maybe Medics.
  15. Hoki

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    You think C4 is OP? You would, you *****. C4 is some ***** *** ****.


    Stop being dumb and get crazed.

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    I already know what you were going to post in reply to this, because craze is space meth and I'm high on it right now. Don't you do it. Don't you ******* do it.
  16. lothbrook

    Infiltrators should definitely not have it, unless they nerf it into the ground, too easy for them to sneak up on tanks and destroy them. But its should just be Heavies and Engineers IMO.
  17. Van Dax

    this is what I've asked for since release, it stops the explosive frisbee technique and allows c4 to be more powerful again.
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  18. uhlan

    Why must someones conception of "C-4" match todays notions?

    Maybe C-4 has "frisbee" properties in the 30th century...

    Funny that THIS causes irritation and the fact that C-4 can take out a tank even though it isn't a shaped charge does not.
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  19. Hosp

    Again, people's inability to watch their own ASSets is not a good reason to nerf C4.
  20. Zotamedu

    That sounds like a really bad idea because even though the C4 itself is extremely stable, the blast cap and boost charge is not.
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