ZOE Whiners rejoice!!

Actually, Charge is not the better choice in the case of doing a fall back defense, Entity. Charge only goes FORWARD and you can't fire while charging. ZOE allows for firing while advancing quickly and also backpedaling at a reasonably faster speed than you would with a normal max. This is the thing VS players don't willingly admit to.

You can dodge rockets with ZOE on and avoid a direct hit. A direct hit with a rocket is I think 5k effective health worth of damage with ZOE off. I'm curious what the indirect damage numbers are to see how effective firing at the feet is. If the ZOE can strafe and avoid a rocket that explodes 20m behind him he negates 5k damage.

If it has a short duration and a cooldown then they should just get rid of the damage taken debuff completely.

Damn, and i was just considering certing up the max and getting some blueshifts. Good thing i didn't.

Oh their tactic is more like zerg air and more air after the first wave then fall back to anchored Prowlers.

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Nice post there, you probably had to put a lot of thought into that.

Here, take your post to your mom, I bet she'll want to stick that up on her refrigerator.

Go on now, go play in the street. GIT!

Just curious, did you see the conversation between Higby and BCP?

As I predicted the board whines won, another case of Bait/Hook/Nerf with no compensation to players.

It would be better to remove the ZOE completely and at least let people get the certs back.

The VS population is going to take a nose dive and honestly in protest all VS should play there alts and turn this into a two faction game until another solution is found.

Just tested this. They swung the nerf bat hard this time. I'm not sure where to begin. The always-on mobility buff was what made the power. The nerfed ZOE is now too much of a liability to bother using anymore. The negatives don't justify the benefits. I play MAX because I like the survivability. MAX is plenty survivable by itself, especially with charge. This change to ZOE hurts survivability. Its a liability.

You see, before ZOE, MAXes learned to be careful (some of us) with when to use charge and when to not, depending on the tactical situation. But with ZOE, we were afforded much more freedom of movement at all times, and could take more risks. Now with these changes on test, we have to go back to being careful again. In fact, we have to be even more careful than before ZOE was introduced. Charge is a nice "oh crap" button when you need it. Test ZOE isn't anything close to that. The damage boost might make up for these downsides if it weren't for SOE funnelling us into big zergs with the lattice. And besides, the damage boost is not main reason for using this power, but rather a nice bonus.

Anyone planning on certing ranks into ZOE should hold off for now. As it stands with these ZOE changes, charge is just way more desirable.

Your max is still good.

It just isn't over the top anymore.

Learn 2 adept, that's what NC got told to do after the Scatnerf.

Atleast your overall damage isn't nerfed, only an ability you can CHOOSE to use.

Of course. You do know it is actually a crime for a close range only MAX to excel at close range.

You'll still be instagibbed.. ZOE didn't change that.

Quite the assumption. Sure as hell won't be from you.

I agree, the max will still be good. It just won't have a useful empire specific ability (zoe will be as useful as the flashlight).

Hell yeahh

Welcome to competitive gaming!

Actually, yeah, it'll be from me as I've already killed you quite a few times.