The Necromancer FAQ, with pictures (updated 11/08/05)

ARCHIVED-Sarduscious · Sep 10, 2006

This is a good FAQ, though one thing I'd comment on that could be changed ...

The list of *suggested* spell upgrades per tier is ok info for a total beginner, though a bit too opinion based for a faq -- a more useful list would be what the 4 spell choices are per tier for the master 2 upgrade selection as the link provided for a complete spell list is broken, and the stickied post on spells here is really only concerned with end game / t7 necros so not at all useful for the other 60+ levels of gameplay :smileywink:

ARCHIVED-Jasuo · Sep 10, 2006

“Sarduscious wrote:
This is a good FAQ, though one thing I'd comment on that could be changed ...

The list of *suggested* spell upgrades per tier is ok info for a total beginner, though a bit too opinion based for a faq -- a more useful list would be what the 4 spell choices are per tier for the master 2 upgrade selection as the link provided for a complete spell list is broken, and the stickied post on spells here is really only concerned with end game / t7 necros so not at all useful for the other 60+ levels of gameplay :smileywink:”

Though it's from an outside source and I'm not really all for that kind of thing, here is a link to exactly what you are looking for.

Necromancer spell listing/ possible upgrade path

I didn't follow it's advice, but then again I didn't know about it till after I hit 50 (pre DoF release).

ARCHIVED-Sarduscious · Sep 11, 2006

“Jasuo wrote:

“Sarduscious wrote:
This is a good FAQ, though one thing I'd comment on that could be changed ...

The list of *suggested* spell upgrades per tier is ok info for a total beginner, though a bit too opinion based for a faq -- a more useful list would be what the 4 spell choices are per tier for the master 2 upgrade selection as the link provided for a complete spell list is broken, and the stickied post on spells here is really only concerned with end game / t7 necros so not at all useful for the other 60+ levels of gameplay :smileywink:”

Though it's from an outside source and I'm not really all for that kind of thing, here is a link to exactly what you are looking for.

Necromancer spell listing/ possible upgrade path

I didn't follow it's advice, but then again I didn't know about it till after I hit 50 (pre DoF release).”

Thanks for the link -- it's good for being a complete list though not anything I'd recommend to others in terms of the advice it gives re: what spells to upgrade or not -- a couple of examples that make me laugh is saying our buff spells aren't worth bothering to upgrade, or that our stun line isn't worth an upgrade at all either even though at adept 1 it's resisted more often than not. Opinions on spells will always vary widely depending on how you play a given class though, so I tend to just stick to finding out what works best on my own :smileyvery-happy:

At any rate, thanks again -- I did notice that this faq hasn't been updated in a while, so just thought I'd mention what could be added to a future update ( should one happen ) that might add to it's utility.

ARCHIVED-stgninja · Sep 26, 2006

Ok I just gotta say before you join a group always turn off pet protect self and protect me...unless your pet is the main tank. That way your pet is only attacking what you tell it to. So if your in a group and your pet is always getting aggro/breaking mezz and dying this is probably why. Pressing pet back off turns these off in 1 shot.

ARCHIVED-gizzardgulper · Jun 20, 2007

Hi, nub necromancer here with a question about pulling. The FAQ suggests to pull a mob by having pet run up, do a hit, and run back to you. Wouldn't it be easier to just zap the mob with a long range spell, then sic the pet onto him when the mob is almost upon you? is there a downside to this method which i dont know about yet?

ARCHIVED-Xaneth · Jun 27, 2007

No, it wouldn't as it would then put threat on you from the start instead of on your pet (which is where you want the threat to be focused). Generally solo, you pull with pet and then assist it as you would any tank. Also, don't start off with your most powerful spell once the pet IS on the mob, as it can draw attention. Work your way up to the big damage with your debuffs and DoTs. Unless you've got exceptionally high sta etc you really don't want the mob(s) on you because you wear cloth and they will probably bite you pretty good, possibly killing you if you're not of lvl to use Feign Death yet.. Your tank pet can take those hits, mostf Nec especially earlier in lvls, can't. Later on in lvls when you get higher sta and such to take the beating and different equip, THEN you can play around with not bothering with a tank pet at all and tanking whatever yourself. I've got a ring that triggers and heals me as well as does damage to the mob, so usually my pet gets no time to tank with me just laying into whatever i'm pulling from the start. Again though, earlier on this is really not recommended.

ARCHIVED-Duskwood · Jul 21, 2007

think its about time to update this a lot of it has changed.

ARCHIVED-Solarax · Nov 19, 2007

i can tell you all that the adept3 version of our level 77 tank pet has 145 more HP than our 66 master pet tank.

i know im comparing a a adept3 against a master but i would expect our next tier pet to have a slight bit more HP

ARCHIVED-Virulence · Nov 20, 2007

Solarax wrote:

“i can tell you all that the adept3 version of our level 77 tank pet has 145 more HP than our 66 master pet tank.

i know im comparing a a adept3 against a master but i would expect our next tier pet to have a slight bit more HP”

145hp is very minor, around 1% of the total hp when buffed.

ARCHIVED-Sabutai · Nov 20, 2007

Virulence wrote:

“Solarax wrote:

“i can tell you all that the adept3 version of our level 77 tank pet has 145 more HP than our 66 master pet tank.

i know im comparing a a adept3 against a master but i would expect our next tier pet to have a slight bit more HP”

145hp is very minor, around 1% of the total hp when buffed.”

but its on a horse

and looks cool

and actually holds agro. HP gain is minor.

ARCHIVED-Shumanjo · Mar 28, 2008

Someone with knowledge should update this.

I am new to the game so i will not be me but as I understand it alot have changed, and the http://eq2necromancer.com/ link
goes to a goldseller/powerleveller site.

/Shumanjo

ARCHIVED-Sosumya · Aug 12, 2008

Here is my updated idea of the necromancer..

feedback is encouraged

“Necromancer Guide
I. What is the role of a Necromancer?
II. Important Stats
a. Basic Stats
b. Item Effects
III. Important Spells
a. Damage Spells
b. Crowd Control
c. Buffs
i. Permanent
ii. Temporary
iii. Other/Misc
IV. Casting Order
V. Armor Selection
VI. Weapon Selection
VII. AA Variations
VIII. Consumables
IX. UI And Macro Setup
X. Tips and Tricks
I. What is the role of a Necromancer?
As it stands now, Necromancer are a DPS class. We have no "real" buff spells and, and perform some utility from time to time.
When it comes to DPS, we are a DoT (Damage over Time) class. Our largest single spell hit will be either our Master Strike or Drain Life, which Master Strike really does not count due to its timer and mob type requirement.
When it comes to utility, we still can do crowd control (non-epic), 48% Power & Health rezzs in-combat(35 meter), and we also give Mana hearts, Hearts are obsolete with the release of Mythicals for Mystics and Illusionists.
II. Important Stats
IIA. Basic Stats
Through leveling, your primary focus should be on INT, but it becomes less urgent as you near the level cap. The hard INT cap is around 1230 or so at level 80. Secondary to INT is STA, as you need as many hitpoints as possible to survive AOE's as best as you can, as well as to assist your lifeburn spell. Most gear naturally exists this way, so it shouldn't be hard to get around 9-10,000 health self-buffed at level 80. STR AGI and WIS don't help much at all raiding.
IIB. Item Effects
As a DPS class, we need a good mix of item effects to balance our DPS and survivability. From the simplest standpoint, we benefit from +spell damage the least than any other class due to the fact that our damage is split with our pet and the pet does not gain from the spell mod or crit. With RoK, many high-end Necross are hitting 75-90% crit without much difficulty, so you really have to balance both of these. However, since +spell damage is capped at 50% of the total damage of the spell, you have to do the math to calculate whether or not you will be over this cap, because anything over the cap is wasted.
Spell Mod should be the focus until you can keep around high600s-low700s. Then you will begin focus on raising your Crit offsetting Spell damage mods as you deem necessary, Spell mod to 6-700 is more important however if you must choose. As your crit goes up so will your spell mod cap due to crit bonus and how often (higher percentage) you get to crit.
Cast Haste / Re-use is also very helpful. Unfortunately, most of the gear is either "hostile re-use" or "beneficial re-use" Etc., the latter generally being more common to priest gear.
Item Procs such as damage and power procs, are also useful, but damage procs are not nearly useful as they were in EoF. Power procs are not as useful once mythicals are obtained.
Items like the BCG and collection earring reward should be retired in favor of dispersion gear and crit/spell mod items.
Casting Speed boosts provide some value to us, but nothing unlike they would for a sorcerer.
Defensively - Dispersion and Displacement gear are the best defensive gear we can get. You should always have at least 1-2 pieces of gear that falls into this category for fights where you cannot avoid being hit.
III. Important Spells
We have "four main" spells that are our most important and fall under Damage based spells.
IIIa. Damage Spells:
Bloodcoil - This is our main single target damage spell. Compared to other mage classes, it does little damage, but the speed in which we can cast it(0.8seconds) as well as the short re-use(7.8seconds) and duration (22.4seconds)make it our #1 spell on our parse, if we do not lifeburn.
Soul Rot - This is considered our main end all spell to be used as much as possible but in testing I disagree with this statement. Soulrot is very nice due to its speed in casting (1.6 seconds) re-use(2.9seconds) and the short duration(1.1seconds). Right away the numbers between Bloodcoil and Soul Rot should show you which one is better for "pure" DPS.
Drain Life - Single target life tap. Cast(1.6seconds) and re-use(8.8seconds) this is a must have in your rotation.
Pandemic - AE DoT. Cast(1.5seconds), re-use(8.8seconds) and duration(5.8seconds) great spell for rotation but best saved for knowing when adds will be incoming to maximize the # of targets it will hit.
BloodCloud - PBAoE cast)1.6secondS), re-use(24.5seconds). One of our longer spells and being PBAoE it never is used very much.
Pack of Imps - Single Target crushing DoT pet, use early on long single target fights to help with the "something always ticking" mentality
Grave Disturbance - AE Disease DoT pet. Good to have for Multiple mob encounters, which is rare and should be considered fluff unless everything else is down.
Vampirism - Great concept that was murdered in beta. Not very useful unless you know the encounter will not AE or you are Blood Pact spec to protect pet from taking damage as the spell dispels on ANY damage done to the target you cast it on. For the penalty of the spell in how it terminates I usually only cast on my pet to get the most out of its duration.
Master Strike - Only worth mentioning here because it does a decent amount of damage for us, so it should always be cast when applicable.
Undead Horde - Great DPS boost, use it whenever it is up.

IIb. Crowd Control
Unlike enchanter classes, all of our crowd control spells cannot be used on epics. Some specific mobs will still be affected however, typically adds in an encounter not labeled as epic but heroic instead.
Plot - 5second stun

Dread - 16second fear.
Chains of Eternity - 35second root with high reoccurring resistibility.

IIIc. Buffs
We have some buffs, can't say much more than that.
Permanent
Magi Shielding - Self explanatory. Always have this up, since it is zero cost.
Teachings of the Undead - increase to STA and INT to group
Grave Favors - Group buff of Mana and mit to Disease and poison. Both you will see rarely in ROK anywhere.
Archlich - Self buff that inflict additional damage on each successful attack as well as regen percentage of max power at cost of health which increases with spell quality.

Temporary
Gluttony - Pet buff that works as a health lich to you, your pet and all pets in-group (IE. Other summoners or possessed pets) but not swarm pets.

Other/Misc
These spells don't really fit in to any category.
Dooming Darkness - strictly a way to proc Archlich
Vampire Bats - should never be used, it's a waste
Mortality Mark - good precast to Lifeburn, lowers targets STA and WIS while increasing yours.
Siphoning of Souls - Decreases targets STR and INT, on termination has a chance to give you one of 6 different spells but mostly you will never use them.
IV. Casting Order
Due to the uniqueness of our class, our casting order is very different from most other classes. Casting should be done in order of how much damage that spell can do between casts. At the top of the list would be:
Bloodcoil
SoulRot
Drain Life
Pandemic

When it comes down to it, Soul Rot is basically cast every other spell due to the re-use being so short and it is such a significant amount of our dps. Sadly, any other spell is merely a filler spell based on the each fight and what is happening in the fight at that moment. If you were to send pet and use just these 4 spells you would still do some appropriate damage.
V. Armor Selection
Offensively, you need to balance +spell damage, crit, re-use, and procs, in that order, with spell damage being almost equal to crit, except much easier to cap. This list changes, so check out eq2flames for more information on what is best for us at the time.
Defensively, you should have many spare pieces of gear in case you need to load up on a particular resist. Ideally though, get dispersion/displacement gear, as they proc stone skins which makes you take zero damage.
VI. Weapon Selection
Our mythical is our best weapon. If you don't have that, use the Wand of Crystalized Plasma from Unrest, the Frigid Piercer from VP, or our Group epic if neither of those are available. This is pretty much standard for any mage class.
VII. AA Variation
Every Necro should have the STR/INT lines filled out, and the rest in the WIS line.
STR for the crits and INT for the leash(now broken and useless at time of writing), and pet permanent buffs.
On the Necromancer side, go down the Pacts line for rez bonus and AE immunity on pet, Rotting line for the cast bonuses and lifeburn, and Grave calling to get additional pet buffs and extra undead horde bonus and skip the ooze crawler at all costs.
VIII. Consumables
Get the +50 Spell Damage Drink(30min duration), +4 Crit potions(15min duration), and the +3 crit scrolls(30min duration). Use food that has +STA on it.
IX. UI and Macro Setup
UI's are a matter of preference, but make sure you macro out when you cast Lifeburn, Undead Horde, or when you are Rezzing a fallen group/raid member.
X. Tips and Tricks
* While raiding, precast vampirism on pet if you know you are going to use it, the cast time is rather long for a spell at 2.86seconds.
* Use all pets on long fights, short fights of <1min make these useless unless you precast to pull.
* Always ask for JCAP on Horde and lifeburn, you should not need it for anything else and you should not be rezzing so much to need cap on that either.
* Be mindful of the people dying around you. We are battle rezzers and as much as it sucks to not cast damage we should be front line for all rezzes at all times.
* Use Dispersion gear when fighting named that aren't straight burns. Death = poor dps, so even if you take a hit on crit or spell damage, you'll do more DPS if you don't die.
* Never use Soulsiphon gear (power proc) you have lich! The only time you should not use lich is on Venril currently due to the power level requirements of the fight, unless you burn mana through sprinting, etc
* Use the training wall in Kunzar Jungle to help with your casting order. Watch ACT and when you want to try something different, make sure you test it a bunch of times. You will see the reason for my spell order listed prior and maybe you will see something different you prefer as this is a guide not an end-all.
”

ARCHIVED-Pales · Oct 31, 2008

That "update" shows a lot of what you think about the class, Sosumya.

ARCHIVED-Xil · Nov 5, 2008

Sosumya@Unrest wrote:

“Here is my updated idea of the necromancer..

feedback is encouraged

“Necromancer Guide
I. What is the role of a Necromancer?
II. Important Stats
a. Basic Stats
b. Item Effects
III. Important Spells
a. Damage Spells
b. Crowd Control
c. Buffs
i. Permanent
ii. Temporary
iii. Other/Misc
IV. Casting Order
V. Armor Selection
VI. Weapon Selection
VII. AA Variations
VIII. Consumables
IX. UI And Macro Setup
X. Tips and Tricks
I. What is the role of a Necromancer?
As it stands now, Necromancer are a DPS class. We have no "real" buff spells and, and perform some utility from time to time. Only a DPS class if buffed correctly otherwise wasted raid spot...
When it comes to DPS, we are a DoT (Damage over Time) class. Our largest single spell hit will be either our Master Strike or Drain Life, which Master Strike really does not count due to its timer and mob type requirement.
When it comes to utility, we still can do crowd control (non-epic), 48% Power & Health rezzs in-combat(35 meter), and we also give Mana hearts, Hearts are obsolete with the release of Mythicals for Mystics and Illusionists. No reason to have a necro rez when dirge can rez and whipe rez effect, our root might as well be a mez with no AE prevention it breaks on hit.
II. Important Stats
IIA. Basic Stats
Through leveling, your primary focus should be on INT, but it becomes less urgent as you near the level cap. The hard INT cap is around 1230 or so at level 80. Secondary to INT is STA, as you need as many hitpoints as possible to survive AOE's as best as you can, as well as to assist your lifeburn spell. Most gear naturally exists this way, so it shouldn't be hard to get around 9-10,000 health self-buffed at level 80. STR AGI and WIS don't help much at all raiding. Very difficult outside of VP gear to get over 9k self buffed health without signifigantly stunting DPS, hitpoints are however VERY important for Lifeburn DPS. More Health higher LB ticks and exponentially more damage with proper healing.
IIB. Item Effects
As a DPS class, we need a good mix of item effects to balance our DPS and survivability. From the simplest standpoint, we benefit from +spell damage the least than any other class due to the fact that our damage is split with our pet and the pet does not gain from the spell mod or crit. With RoK, many high-end Necross are hitting 75-90% crit without much difficulty, so you really have to balance both of these. However, since +spell damage is capped at 50% of the total damage of the spell, you have to do the math to calculate whether or not you will be over this cap, because anything over the cap is wasted.
Spell Mod should be the focus until you can keep around high600s-low700s. Then you will begin focus on raising your Crit offsetting Spell damage mods as you deem necessary, Spell mod to 6-700 is more important however if you must choose. As your crit goes up so will your spell mod cap due to crit bonus and how often (higher percentage) you get to crit. Stopping at 6-700 spell damage kills DPS potential. 50% of your Drain life base damage is the goal. Everything else crits. So around 850 to 900. And crits as high as you possibley can get them.
Cast Haste / Re-use is also very helpful. Unfortunately, most of the gear is either "hostile re-use" or "beneficial re-use" Etc., the latter generally being more common to priest gear.
Item Procs such as damage and power procs, are also useful, but damage procs are not nearly useful as they were in EoF. Power procs are not as useful once mythicals are obtained.
Items like the BCG and collection earring reward should be retired in favor of dispersion gear and crit/spell mod items.
Casting Speed boosts provide some value to us, but nothing unlike they would for a sorcerer.
Defensively - Dispersion and Displacement gear are the best defensive gear we can get. You should always have at least 1-2 pieces of gear that falls into this category for fights where you cannot avoid being hit.
III. Important Spells
We have "four main" spells that are our most important and fall under Damage based spells.
IIIa. Damage Spells:
Bloodcoil - This is our main single target damage spell. Compared to other mage classes, it does little damage, but the speed in which we can cast it(0.8seconds) as well as the short re-use(7.8seconds) and duration (22.4seconds)make it our #1 spell on our parse, if we do not lifeburn.
Soul Rot - This is considered our main end all spell to be used as much as possible but in testing I disagree with this statement. Soulrot is very nice due to its speed in casting (1.6 seconds) re-use(2.9seconds) and the short duration(1.1seconds). Right away the numbers between Bloodcoil and Soul Rot should show you which one is better for "pure" DPS.
Drain Life - Single target life tap. Cast(1.6seconds) and re-use(8.8seconds) this is a must have in your rotation.
Pandemic - AE DoT. Cast(1.5seconds), re-use(8.8seconds) and duration(5.8seconds) great spell for rotation but best saved for knowing when adds will be incoming to maximize the # of targets it will hit.
BloodCloud - PBAoE cast)1.6secondS), re-use(24.5seconds). One of our longer spells and being PBAoE it never is used very much.
Pack of Imps - Single Target crushing DoT pet, use early on long single target fights to help with the "something always ticking" mentality
Grave Disturbance - AE Disease DoT pet. Good to have for Multiple mob encounters, which is rare and should be considered fluff unless everything else is down.
Vampirism - Great concept that was murdered in beta. Not very useful unless you know the encounter will not AE or you are Blood Pact spec to protect pet from taking damage as the spell dispels on ANY damage done to the target you cast it on. For the penalty of the spell in how it terminates I usually only cast on my pet to get the most out of its duration.
Master Strike - Only worth mentioning here because it does a decent amount of damage for us, so it should always be cast when applicable.
Undead Horde - Great DPS boost, use it whenever it is up.
This whole section needs some work. Sounds like you kinda rolled another class and don't play the necro anymore.

IIb. Crowd Control
Unlike enchanter classes, all of our crowd control spells cannot be used on epics. Some specific mobs will still be affected however, typically adds in an encounter not labeled as epic but heroic instead.
Plot - 5second stun Useless on most content, 99% of all teir 8 named are immune and cannot be used on epics. Not croud control. Supposed to be used to help protect the tank from damage.

Dread - 16second fear. Completely worthless spell should not exist in the game.
Chains of Eternity - 35second root with high reoccurring resistibility.

IIIc. Buffs
We have some buffs, can't say much more than that.
Permanent
Magi Shielding - Self explanatory. Always have this up, since it is zero cost.
Teachings of the Undead - increase to STA and INT to group
Grave Favors - Group buff of Mana and mit to Disease and poison. Both you will see rarely in ROK anywhere.
Archlich - Self buff that inflict additional damage on each successful attack as well as regen percentage of max power at cost of health which increases with spell quality.

Temporary
Gluttony - Pet buff that works as a health lich to you, your pet and all pets in-group (IE. Other summoners or possessed pets) but not swarm pets. Also adds a large amount of DPS to the pet for duration, This spell should always be greyed out no matter what content you are fighting.

Other/Misc
These spells don't really fit in to any category.
Dooming Darkness - strictly a way to proc Archlich Also to proc POTM and any other chance to proc damage as well as a small fast cast DoT that sits nicely between refreash timers.
Vampire Bats - should never be used, it's a waste Absolutley False.
Mortality Mark - good precast to Lifeburn, lowers targets STA and WIS while increasing yours. Should always have this spell up and re-apply just before lifeburn.
Siphoning of Souls - Decreases targets STR and INT, on termination has a chance to give you one of 6 different spells but mostly you will never use them. Absolutley not true. Use them all the time and keep Siphon of Souls on every mob you encounter.
IV. Casting Order
Due to the uniqueness of our class, our casting order is very different from most other classes. Casting should be done in order of how much damage that spell can do between casts. At the top of the list would be: Little more complicated than this, Spells need to be cast in refresh order as well as duration order because the main DPS from bloodcoil and pandemic come from the inital strike. But there is more to the chain that you have not considered here as well.
Gluttony (Prebuff)
Siphon of Souls (Pull)

Repeat (No POTM)

Drain Life
SoulRotBloodcoil
PandemicSoulRot
Darkness
Bats
SoulRot
Dagger
Drain Life
SoulRot
Imps
SoulRot
Grave Disturbance
SoulRot
Repeat (With POTM)**
Mark (use then click off again)
SoulRot
Darkness
Bloodcoil
SoulRot
Mark (use then click off again)
Pandemic
Dispel
Soulrot
Mark (use then click off again)
Darkness
Bloodcoil
SoulRot
**This is very important as a necro grouped with a troubador. When PoTM goes off spam your quick casting and refreshing detrimental spells. ALL OF THEM. Ignore anything that takes a long time to cast and be sure to double click Morality Mark as you can use it over and over for PoTM procs with very little cooldown.
Dagger, dispel, darkness, mark, all of these will proc PoTM. If everything is grey throw in master strike or Drain life but then go straight back to these fast cast refresh spells.**

Swap Imps/Rot and Grave/Rot for Unstopable Soul and Lifeburn, Followed Immediatley upon burn by Undead Horde and the chain again (when applicable)

Imps and Grave should never come in at the start of a fight due to the majority of mobs having a frontal and flanking AE as well as the likelyhood of other AE's coming in shortly after or on the pull.

When it comes down to it, Soul Rot is basically cast every other spell due to the re-use being so short and it is such a significant amount of our dps. Sadly, any other spell is merely a filler spell based on the each fight and what is happening in the fight at that moment. If you were to send pet and use just these 4 spells you would still do some appropriate damage. Absolutley not true on all counts but one. SoulRot is in fact our most frequently cast spell. Without dumbfires, bats, animated dagger, and dooming darkness mixed in your limit DPS signifigantly.
V. Armor Selection
Offensively, you need to balance +spell damage, crit, re-use, and procs, in that order, with spell damage being almost equal to crit, except much easier to cap. This list changes, so check out eq2flames for more information on what is best for us at the time.
Defensively, you should have many spare pieces of gear in case you need to load up on a particular resist. Ideally though, get dispersion/displacement gear, as they proc stone skins which makes you take zero damage.
VI. Weapon Selection
Our mythical is our best weapon. If you don't have that, use the Wand of Crystalized Plasma from Unrest, the Frigid Piercer from VP, or our Group epic if neither of those are available. This is pretty much standard for any mage class.
VII. AA Variation
Every Necro should have the STR/INT lines filled out, and the rest in the WIS line.
STR for the crits and INT for the leash(now broken and useless at time of writing), and pet permanent buffs.
On the Necromancer side, go down the Pacts line for rez bonus and AE immunity on pet, Rotting line for the cast bonuses and lifeburn, and Grave calling to get additional pet buffs and extra undead horde bonus and skip the ooze crawler at all costs. If you spec right there is no reason to not have the ooze pet, it is sutiationally very usefull to both grouping and raiding.
VIII. Consumables
Get the +50 Spell Damage Drink(30min duration), +4 Crit potions(15min duration), and the +3 crit scrolls(30min duration). Use food that has +STA on it. Your spell damage should be at the 50% cap for your Drain Life no other spell damage enhancement is needed. Use STA/INT food always.
IX. UI and Macro Setup
UI's are a matter of preference, but make sure you macro out when you cast Lifeburn, Undead Horde, or when you are Rezzing a fallen group/raid member. Macro a pre burn /tell to both the mystic and the trouby about 10 seconds before you click lifeburn.
Example:
/tell troubador "burn coming hit me with JC when my life drops"
/tell Mystic "burn coming make it bigger for me"
As well as a Macro for the actual burn macro on spell cast.

Undead Horde needs no macro. Your healer should always have all group HoT's up at all times anyway.
X. Tips and Tricks
* While raiding, precast vampirism on pet if you know you are going to use it, the cast time is rather long for a spell at 2.86seconds. Vampirism is also usefull on skilled scouts that know how to avoid damage
* Use all pets on long fights, short fights of <1min make these useless unless you precast to pull. Never precast dumbfires on the pull they will die 99% of the time
* Always ask for JCAP on Horde and lifeburn, you should not need it for anything else and you should not be rezzing so much to need cap on that either.
* Be mindful of the people dying around you. We are battle rezzers and as much as it sucks to not cast damage we should be front line for all rezzes at all times. Necro should only rez if there is no other rez availible or on fights like VS* Use Dispersion gear when fighting named that aren't straight burns. Death = poor dps, so even if you take a hit on crit or spell damage, you'll do more DPS if you don't die. Resist gear is more than enough and unlike dispersion gear much of it does not destroy DPS
*Macro /pet attack to SoulRot
*Get Bloodthirsty Choker
*Get respec mirror the moment you hit 21 AA's for a solo and group spec, necro absolutley cannot perform solo with a group focused spec or grouped with a solo focused spec, this is very VERY important”

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That should about cover it...

ARCHIVED-Sosumya · Nov 24, 2008

Paleskinn@Runnyeye wrote:

“That "update" shows a lot of what you think about the class, Sosumya.”

care to clarify your statement?

ARCHIVED-Sosumya · Nov 24, 2008

Xil I am sorry, if you use ACT you will see OOze Pet does nothing.. literally. and bats is a filler spell at best.

ARCHIVED-Xil · Nov 25, 2008

Sosumya@Unrest wrote:

“Xil I am sorry, if you use ACT you will see OOze Pet does nothing.. literally. and bats is a filler spell at best.”

However if you look at the detrimental effects bar of the mob you see that the ooze pet does infact apply the curse regularly as well as do a tiny amount of damage(which you can also see in ACT).
So nothing is a bit of an exageration...
It is a great disadvantage to DPS to use the Ooze pet no doubt but the curse is effective from time to time in both grouping and raiding situations.

ARCHIVED-Sosumya · Nov 25, 2008

Xil wrote:

“Sosumya@Unrest wrote:

“Xil I am sorry, if you use ACT you will see OOze Pet does nothing.. literally. and bats is a filler spell at best.”

However if you look at the detrimental effects bar of the mob you see that the ooze pet does infact apply the curse regularly as well as do a tiny amount of damage(which you can also see in ACT).
So nothing is a bit of an exageration...
It is a great disadvantage to DPS to use the Ooze pet no doubt but the curse is effective from time to time in both grouping and raiding situations.”

it was a great concept with poor execution and the hit rate was horrible at best.. and being so gimped on DPS against other mages the pet loss - especially with having the mythical.. is too much to justify the use of the ooze pet.

ARCHIVED-Xil · Nov 25, 2008

Sosumya@Unrest wrote:

“Xil wrote:

“Sosumya@Unrest wrote:

“Xil I am sorry, if you use ACT you will see OOze Pet does nothing.. literally. and bats is a filler spell at best.”

However if you look at the detrimental effects bar of the mob you see that the ooze pet does infact apply the curse regularly as well as do a tiny amount of damage(which you can also see in ACT).
So nothing is a bit of an exageration...
It is a great disadvantage to DPS to use the Ooze pet no doubt but the curse is effective from time to time in both grouping and raiding situations.”

it was a great concept with poor execution and the hit rate was horrible at best.. and being so gimped on DPS against other mages the pet loss - especially with having the mythical.. is too much to justify the use of the ooze pet.”

So true. The Ooze pet should have never been a primary pet it should have been a secondary pet or a debuff added to the primary pet. Or at the very least been able to DPS as a scout or mage pet can.
However the original point was that there is really no place else to put those points that would be an effective use of them either so it's better to have the pet that is useful once in a great while than just throwing those AA's on something that doesn't matter like Necro Healing.
Currently though I've removed these points in favor of points in Shadows but will likely return them after I have maxed out my AA's again simply because there really is no place else to put them.

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