Confirmed Spirit of Tala`tak/Selo's dropping when hit with some debuffs, but only for specific classes...

Discussion in 'Bug Reports' started by Covennx, Aug 2, 2023.

  1. Covennx Augur

    This has been happening since at least the NOS raids released (after looking back at logs), but just noticed it seemed to happen durring specific times and decided to try to figure it out now.

    So, for specifically Bards, Warriors, Monks, Shadow Knights and Paladins, if they have Spirit of Tala`tak (and Selo's, maybe more) and they are hit by Spore Spurt, Ringing Crystal Temple or Reishicyben Spore Explosion (the ones I've found so far) it has a chance to remove Spirit of Tala`tak (and Selo's)

    Code:
    [Mon May 22 21:29:08 2023] You feel the spirit of Tala`Tak enter you.
    [Mon May 22 21:37:02 2023] You have taken 225225 damage from Spore Spurt by an enthusiastic understudy.
    [Mon May 22 21:37:02 2023] The spirit of Tala`Tak leaves you.
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    [Tue Jun 20 21:49:16 2023] You have taken 346278 damage from Reishicyben Spore Explosion.
    [Tue Jun 20 21:49:22 2023] You have taken 346278 damage from Reishicyben Spore Explosion.
    [Tue Jun 20 21:49:28 2023] The spirit of Tala`Tak leaves you.
    [Tue Jun 20 21:49:28 2023] You have taken 346278 damage from Reishicyben Spore Explosion.
    [Tue Jun 20 21:49:34 2023] You have taken 346278 damage from Reishicyben Spore Explosion.
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    [Mon Apr 24 21:26:06 2023] You feel the spirit of Tala`Tak enter you.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:26:46 2023] The spirit of Tala`Tak leaves you.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:26:46 2023] You have taken 224725 damage from Spore Spurt by an enthusiastic understudy.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:26:58 2023] You have taken 224725 damage from Spore Spurt by an enthusiastic understudy.

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    [Mon Apr 24 21:09:59 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:10:05 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:10:11 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:10:17 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:10:24 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:10:30 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:10:36 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:10:42 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:10:48 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:10:54 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:11:00 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:11:06 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:11:12 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:11:18 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:11:25 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:11:25 2023] The spirit of Tala`Tak leaves you.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:11:31 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:11:37 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:11:43 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
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    [Sun Jul 23 21:22:34 2023] You slow down.
    [Sun Jul 23 21:22:34 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    [Sun Jul 23 21:22:40 2023] You slow down.
    [Sun Jul 23 21:22:40 2023] You have taken 239740 damage from Ringing Crystal Temple by The Star.
    I have talked with every class (except Wizard) and after going through their logs it seems consistent, it only seems to happen with Bards, Warriors, Monks, Shadow Knights and Paladins.


    Talking with some other players, the only thing we have come up with that those 5 classes have in common is higher ranks of Adamant Will that includes a chance to resist blind, mez and snare, instead of just charm. I would guess the snare componant is the culprit, even though 2 of the spells that knock it off are roots. Possibly if the the spell is cast and the check would have let them resist the root/snare/decrease movement speed, it can remove any buff that has a movement speed effect on it? Since the spells being cast on them are unresistable?

    May not have anything to do with Adamant Will, but it's the only thing that seems to make sense at the moment. Any other input is welcome. If anyone else wants to check their own logs and sees anything deviate from whats posted here, please post your findings.

    Thanks!
    menown, Thunderkiks, Gorruk and 20 others like this.
  2. Soulbanshee Augur

    How positive it's not just wearing off mid fight coincidentally at that point? You can check stacking on all the links you put up, SPA 3 isn't even on the same slot as Tala`Tak. You list all the classes that are more likely to be kiting/moving adds, sounds like the scripted anti-kite mechanic and not spell stacking.
  3. Covennx Augur

    I agree, none of it makes sense.

    [Mon Apr 24 21:26:06 2023] You feel the spirit of Tala`Tak enter you.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:26:46 2023] The spirit of Tala`Tak leaves you.
    [Mon Apr 24 21:26:46 2023] You have taken 224725 damage from Spore Spurt by an enthusiastic understudy.

    Knocked off 40 seconds after it was cast. I can see the same thing from those same classes every raid night. Just added a few examples. I first noticed this as a bard, not moving, not kiting just fighting The Star.
  4. Covennx Augur

    Had a shaman MGB Tala`tak right as The Star came in to camp and it was knocked off the following during the fight.

    [Sat Aug 05 21:47:03 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of Bard.
    [Sat Aug 05 21:47:13 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of Bard.
    [Sat Aug 05 21:47:15 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of Warrior.
    [Sat Aug 05 21:47:15 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of Bard.
    [Sat Aug 05 21:47:44 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of SK.
    [Sat Aug 05 21:48:15 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of SK.
    [Sat Aug 05 21:48:26 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of Bard.
    [Sat Aug 05 21:48:26 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of Warrior.
    [Sat Aug 05 21:48:29 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of SK.
    [Sat Aug 05 21:49:17 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of Bard.
    [Sat Aug 05 21:49:41 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of SK.
    [Sat Aug 05 21:51:04 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of Warrior.
    [Sat Aug 05 21:51:23 2023] Your Spirit of Tala'Tak spell has worn off of Bard.
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  5. Thunderkiks Augur

    Thank you for this post. I thought I was loosing my mind. Almost every week I play my monk and bard on raids and always loose Tala Tak on both monk and bard on the mushroom raids. Last week however I played my monk and rogue. The monk lost hers but the rogue still had it. I didn't know what the difference was. Hopefully with your info they can figure this out.