Something overwriting improved familiar?

I had chanter+bard in group, it's happened a number of times, is it illusions of grandeur or something?

I'm not seeing a conflict with IoG but my information may be old.

Improved Famililar -

Slot 1: Summon Familiar: Familiar5
Slot 2: Increase All Resists by 25
Slot 3: Increase Critical Nuke Damage by 3%
Slot 4: Increase Effective Casting Level by 9
Slot 5: See Invisible
Slot 6: Increase Max Mana by 200
Slot 7: Increase Current Mana by 6 per tick

Illusions of Grandeur

2: Increase Chance to Critical DoT by 10%
3: Increase Critical DoT Damage by 110% of Base Damage
5: Increase Chance to Critical Nuke by 10% and Increase Critical Nuke Damage by 250% of Base Damage

Hmmm. Man, irritating.

Circle of Power III conflicts I'm hearing.

Magelo says for circle of power 3:

4: Increase Spell Critical Direct Damage by 97%
5:Increase Chance to Critical Hit by 120% with All Skills

Not sure that conflicts too unless there is some msising data there as well.

Ok, here is the other improved familiar (7?)

1: Summon Familiar: Familiar7
2: Increase All Resists by 40
4: Increase Spell Critical Direct Damage by 100%
9: Increase Effective Casting Level by 9
10: See Invisible (1)
11: Increase Mana Pool by 750
12: Increase Mana by 12 per tick

So yeah.. it doesn't stack, the slot 4 conflicts. So Mythose is correct, it seems to be circle of power 3

thanks guys, i'll block circle of power 3 and see if that fixes it. it was removed my last 2 fights as well

blocked circle of power 1 2 and 3 and something still overwrote it lol, gonna have to sit down after raid and have my groupies pop their burn stuff 1 at a time to figure it out

This is what Circle of Power III actually is.

[9011] Circle of Power III Effect
Target: Single
Range: 200'
Beneficial: Blockable
Casting: 0s
4: Increase Chance to Critical Nuke by 3%
5: Increase Chance to Critical Hit by 120%

This is what is overwriting it.

Improved Familiar used to use slot 8 for it's crit mod, which is what druids' Group Spirit of the Black Wolf uses. There was a conflict because of this, so I asked Elidroth to change it to slot 4.

The only thing that uses slot 4 is Circle of Power 3, which is 3% crit chance. Since this is a weak mod, and it only lasts a short duration, I figured it would be worth it to allow Improved to stack with Black Wolf. You need to block circle of power 3 effect now though.

I think you need to make sure you block the effect. Circle of Power III effect.

Thanks Gladare! I think you may have fixed me, I'll have to test it tomorrow to be sure. Much appreciated.

I have all three ranks of CoP blocked and still get familiar poofing during raids.

Are you blocking circle of power _Effect_ or just circle of power? Also, which raids is it poofing on? certain raids have mechanics that will remove familiars.

It was circle of power III effect as gladare stated, it's not been removed during a raid since. Now I'm trying to figure out what removes pyromancy during every fight lol.

Pretty sure it's Mana Reverberation and previous versions of this spell since umm Omens? Would recommend not blocking that one though.


Pyromancy

Description

1: Trigger on Cast: Greater Pyromantic Ignition

2: Limit: Spell Type (Detrimental only)

3: Limit: Resist (Fire allowed)

4: Limit: Min Level (70)

5: Limit: Max Level(85)

6: Limit: Instant spells only

7: Limit: Minimum Mana Cost (10)

8: Limit: Target (Self excluded)

Mana Reverberation Rk. III

Description

1: Trigger on Cast: Mana Reverberation Strike III

2: Limit: Spell Type (Detrimental only)

3: Limit: Effect (Hitpoints allowed)

5: Limit: Spell (Mana Reverberation Strike III excluded)

6: Limit: Combat Skills Not Allowed

7: Limit: Max Level(100)

8: Limit: Minimum Mana Cost (10)

Thanks. Yea that's unfortunate if that's what it is, I'm with a chanter 100% of the time and definitely would not block reverb in favor of pyro. Expensive AA to be useless though. I assume acromancy will suffer the same fate, but I'll try anyway hehe.

Isn't pyromancy an 11k dot in the final rank ? Mana Rev was added to make enchanters decent support for wizards its a 3.5k DD with a 100% chance to proc on all damaging spells you cast.


[37010] Pyromancy
Classes: WIZ/254
Target: Self
Beneficial: Blockable
Casting: 0s
Duration: 5.00:00:00 (72000 ticks), Extendable: No, Dispelable: Yes
1: Cast on Spell Use: Greater Pyromantic Ignition (21% Chance)
2: Limit Type: Detrimental
3: Limit Resist: Fire
4: Limit Min Level: 86
5: Limit Max Level: 100 (lose 100% per level)
6: Limit Max Duration: 0s
7: Limit Min Mana Cost: 10
8: Limit Target: Exclude Self


[37013] Greater Pyromantic Ignition
Classes: WIZ/254
Target: Single
Range: 350'
Resist: Fire -1000
Casting: 0s
Duration: 30s (5 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
Hate: -11400
1: Decrease Current HP by 11400 per tick
6: Decrease Fire Resist by 145

Thats the final rank of it I believe.

Don't forget that 3k mana reverb is affected by other things. I've seen 20k+ crits off of it.

It isn't affected by most things.