Shadows Move raid - Dusk not mezzing with high level mez

Discussion in 'Bug Reports' started by Raccoo, Mar 13, 2023.

  1. Raccoo Augur

    03/12/23 07:34:48 PM You begin casting Addle Rk. III.
    03/12/23 07:34:46 PM Your spell is too weak to affect Dusk.

    [63847/6918] Addle Rk. III
    Classes: ENC/116
    Skill: Conjuration
    Mana: 1751
    Target: Single
    Range: 200'
    Resist: Magic -40
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 2.5s, Recast: 1.5s, Rest: 1.5s
    Duration: 54s+ (9 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
    1: Mesmerize up to level 123
    2: Memory Blur (75% Chance)

    I'm guessing the level limit was set to above 116, and that is why Chaotic Puzzlement works while Addle does not. So the limiting factor is what level you obtain the mez instead of what level what the max level is that it can mez. I'd suggest lowering the level to 116.

    [63942/6945] Chaotic Puzzlement Rk. III
    Classes: ENC/118
    Skill: Conjuration
    Mana: 2167
    Target: Single
    Range: 200'
    Resist: Magic -40
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 2.5s, Recast: 1.5s, Rest: 1.5s
    Duration: 36s+ (6 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
    Recourse: Chaotic Puzzlement Gift
    1: Mesmerize up to level 123
    Text: You are completely confounded.

    Edit:
    [63878/6932] Addling Flash Rk. III
    Classes: ENC/117
    Skill: Conjuration
    Mana: 991
    Target: Single
    Range: 200'
    Resist: Lowest -120
    Focusable: Yes
    Casting: 1.5s, Recast: 90s, Rest: 1.5s
    Duration: 36s+ (6 ticks), Dispelable: Yes
    1: Mesmerize up to level 123
    2: Memory Blur (75% Chance)

    03/24/23 09:12:03 PM You begin casting Addling Flash.
    03/24/23 09:12:04 PM Your spell is too weak to affect Dusk.
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  2. Syylke_EMarr Augur

    This actually explains our experience on this raid. Our Enchanters were chain casting Addle, to no effect. Likely no one saw the message about the spell being ineffective due to unwieldy message spam during raids.
  3. Soulbanshee Augur

    You really want to be popping mem blur on a raid boss that a tank will have to pick back up when it goes live again?
  4. Syylke_EMarr Augur

    That's such a very minor concern. The primary concern is making an already esoteric mechanic less so.
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  5. Soulbanshee Augur

    Or I am overthinking the "will not actually land" part of the mechanics, making it no concern.
  6. Axxius Augur

    This is not a bug. Your mez spell will never actually land. Dusk is not mezzable. His script reacts to mez spells being cast on him.

    Addle is just fine, as long as you use it when Dusk is 'vulnerable' to it.
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  7. Syylke_EMarr Augur

    I think you missed the first 2 lines of the OP's post. No one is saying it should actually mez.
    To further clarify the issue, notice how the "Dusk is confused for a moment" message only appears after either Noctambulate or Slumber of the Diabo were cast:
    Code:
    [Mon Mar 06 19:32:21 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:56:30 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:56:37 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:56:45 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:56:48 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:57:15 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:57:26 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:57:37 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:57:42 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:57:43 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:58:11 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:58:12 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:58:22 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:58:29 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:58:32 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Noctambulate XXXIII.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:58:33 2023] Dusk is confused for a moment.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:58:49 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:59:03 2023] Dusk recovers from its confusion.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:59:04 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:59:16 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:59:18 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 20:59:32 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:00:08 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:00:10 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:00:46 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:01:06 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:01:12 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:01:36 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:02:04 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:02:12 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:02:27 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:02:56 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:03:00 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:03:15 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:03:23 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:03:29 2023] Bard01 begins singing Slumber of the Diabo Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:03:31 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:03:32 2023] Dusk is confused for a moment.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:03:40 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:03:49 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:04:01 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:04:03 2023] Dusk recovers from its confusion.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:04:42 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:05 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:07 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:10 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:10 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Noctambulate XXXIII.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:11 2023] Dusk is confused for a moment.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:17 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:22 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:26 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:30 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:32 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:36 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:40 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:42 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:43 2023] Dusk recovers from its confusion.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:05:48 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:06:03 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:06:43 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:06:47 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:31:25 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:31:42 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Noctambulate XXXIII.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:32:41 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:32:48 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Noctambulate XXXIII.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:32:49 2023] Dusk is confused for a moment.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:33:18 2023] Dusk recovers from its confusion.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:33:23 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:33:27 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:33:57 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:34:02 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:34:23 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:34:44 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:34:49 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:35:27 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:35:43 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:36:00 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:36:20 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:36:31 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:37:01 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:37:10 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:37:16 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:38:03 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:38:05 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:38:12 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Noctambulate XXXIII.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:38:13 2023] Dusk is confused for a moment.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:38:20 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:38:26 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:38:30 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:38:37 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:38:43 2023] Dusk recovers from its confusion.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:39:36 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:39:45 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:39:51 2023] Enchanter02 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:40:03 2023] Enchanter01 begins casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:40:04 2023] Bard01 begins singing Slumber of the Diabo Rk. III.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:40:07 2023] Dusk is confused for a moment.
    [Mon Mar 06 21:40:38 2023] Dusk recovers from its confusion.
  8. Tyreel Augur

    Raid mobs now have memblur immunity by default.
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  9. Raccoo Augur

    [Sun Mar 12 19:34:42 2023] You cannot cast Addle Rk. III on Dusk.
    [Sun Mar 12 19:34:42 2023] You cannot cast Addle Rk. III on Dusk.
    [Sun Mar 12 19:34:42 2023] Dusk and Dawn awaken and begin to move.
    [Sun Mar 12 19:34:44 2023] You begin casting Addle Rk. III.
    [Sun Mar 12 19:34:45 2023] Whosyrdaddy begins casting Chaotic Puzzlement Rk. III.
    [Sun Mar 12 19:34:46 2023] Your spell is too weak to affect Dusk.
    [Sun Mar 12 19:34:47 2023] Dusk is confused for a moment.

    Addle cast time is less than 2 seconds, same as Chaotic Puzzlement.

    I checked what resist message would be for mezzing something too high, and the message would be
    Your target cannot be mesmerized (with this spell).
    "creature resisted your Addle!"
    I have these messages filtered in the same window with event messages. Spell failures are red, and event messages are orange, so I see the difference immediately.
    I did not receive "Dusk resisted your Addle!" since mez works as a bane and doesn't actually land. Additionally, because it works as a bane and doesn't actually land, the mem blur doesn't matter.
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  10. Vumad Cape Wearer


    Are you 100% sure Addle is fine or it's just something you are saying based on what should work? We had to use Noctambulate on Beta because none of our other mezes work (we tested pretty much every version we have), despite all of our mezes having the same 123 level cap. Bard mez did work and shares the level cap with the ENC mezes. I haven't tried using a regular mez since it went live. We had planned Noc rotations and the ENC are too fast to confirm who's spell actually got the job done. Hope to test if Addle was fixed soon but I don't think it was.
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  11. Vumad Cape Wearer

    I can confirm that Addle does not work as of tonight. I casted it twice with the Your Spell is too Weak message. Dusk would not go inactive after 2 casts of Addle. It went inactive immediately when I used Noctambulate.


    Please provide some sort of evidence that this is the case.
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  12. Vumad Cape Wearer


    I filter spell failures and worn off to a separate window. They help me see what is going on. Unfortunately this window will get spammed with things like Glyph Spray wearing off the raid, but overall, I can see fizzles, resists, failures, etc pretty readily.