just bring everything to the group. If they cant handle it then you didnt want to be grouped with them anyways.
PSA - Non Invis casters. Cloudy Potions are sold by NPCs and I automatically know you're lazy if you ask a group to break stride to come get your helpless .
I don't know what pick y'all sitting in but I'm roaming all the way from bedroom to ghoul lord and there ain't anything up
I'm not sure what they are at now, but early on folks were wanting close to 100p for a stack. Lowest I saw recently was 45-50ish. That's completely and utterly unaffordable to the average newb. I agree though, that IVU pots for those who can't cast are completely necessary.
The problem usually is the 8 or so that are right in that hall before you go into the water. After that, yeah you can run all over haha.
Forcing people to burn cloudy pots because nobody wants to leave and cast the spell sounds great on a forum, but in game, you are talking about your warrior, cleric, or paladin. Groups missing somone of that class on location aren't generally in stride, and they have the clout to say no to you trying to waste 10g/invis.
I didn't say nobody would do it. There are always people willing to carry incompetent players out of pity or kindness. I just said I'll know what kind of player you are, right off the bat.
Likewise, as a cleric, I too make determinations here. If the group expects me to cloudy to them so they don't have to slow up, I am not accepting them calling for NBG, asking people to hustle back or eat a 0% and not have to waste mana on a good rez, and mentally expecting nobody to be open to criticism if they suck.
So you're saying you'll only be a decent player if people require you to show up with appropriate equipment and consumables?
I said the literal opposite. I refuse to compromise about decent play if they aren't willing to self sacrifice for me. NBG is not a decent loot system. Rezzing old corpses slows everyone else down. Criticism helps people improve. I don't know who you're kidding with this tough guy act; I just spent the last week watching my guild's casters hustling to get invises to Paladins and the like coming for shards. My static has a druid who literally bailed numerous times and made our enc keep his charm pet locked so he could throw assistance to others. Good players don't make people waste plat. If I join a group full of that kind of garbage ego, I anticipate awful human beings and defend accordingly.
Right. You said if you were required to show up with the necessary consumables, you wouldn't accept bad loot systems, time wasting behavior, and terrible play. My take away here is you need that requirement, since you tell us that's the only way you'll avoid being terrible.