No xp for anyone if you have out of group dps

Discussion in 'Bug Reports' started by Ravenbeauty, May 8, 2023.

  1. Ravenbeauty New Member

    Category: Other [Can Repro]
    Date/Time: Mon May 08 16:04:11 2023

    Character: Level 75 Shadow Knight (Main)
    Zone: Direwind Cliffs
    Location: -1263.31, 1437.81, -97.15, 272.41

    Description: I'm in a full group with two wizards and I have a druid out of group. If the out of group druid casts ANY damage spell NO ONE gets xp. Not my group nor the druid. I have repeated this several times to be sure.
  2. Soulbanshee Augur

    Is the druid casting 1 det spell, or is the druid doing 51% of the damage (vs 2 wizards, I don't know how but gotta ask)?

    Is this on test server? What level are the wizards? What level is the druid? How are you confirming there is no exp (is anyone hiding or filtering messages to a spam window)? Any log lines to post from group and from the druid?
  3. Svann2 The Magnificent

    Level of druid?
    Level of mob?
    If its test server then this belongs in the test server forum. Also, note that its likely only temporary on test server in preparation for the next TLP.
  4. Ravenbeauty New Member

    All were level 75. Even when druid cast a very low level spell doing only a couple hundred damage no one got xp however I also found out that if I only had 5 in group and my druid out of group BOTH got xp. Now how does that work?

    On Thornblade server.
  5. Soulbanshee Augur

  6. Soulbanshee Augur

    There's no chance someone out of group should be getting mob exp unless they do 51% of the damage, which would then mean the group gets no exp.
  7. Ravenbeauty New Member

    Faithe is the out of group druid. All the rest were in group. No one got xp.

    A Clan Direwind carrionmancer in 18s, 55186 @3065 | Crithappens 27732 | Ravenbeauty 14679 | Sweetly 5318 | Ladyfate 4162 | Elegante 2256 | Kantik 578 | Faithe 372 | Jobaner 89
  8. Ravenbeauty New Member

    It happened...repeatedly. One person dropped from group to add their alt when I first saw it. Then I started testing and it was true each and every time.
  9. Velisaris_MS Augur

    You're not fading or evacing or anything are you?

    Did you try a different zone?

    Did you swap it around and try different toons out of group or is it just specific toons?
  10. Soulbanshee Augur

    Not copy a dps parse, go into the log file and copy out the lines from someone in group, and from the druid, show that one mob kill is simultaneously showing either no exp or everyone exp at the same timestamp. Use the code tag so it doesn't try to forum code the text.
  11. Ravenbeauty New Member


    I don't know how to do that but I will have a guildy walk me through it after raid tonight.
  12. Ravenbeauty New Member

    No, I didn't have time.
  13. yepmetoo Abazzagorath

    If they pushed this garbage to live or all TLPs they can go right to h e double hockey sticks.
  14. Ravenbeauty New Member


    It doesn't seem to be a purposeful thing.
  15. Cloud the Third Augur

    Did it die from DS? I know at one point if a DS killed a mob noone got exp.
  16. Ravenbeauty New Member


    No it died from wizard nuking
  17. Ravenbeauty New Member

    Here is an example of both no one and everyone getting experience respectively. The computers time are slightly different, but you can see the damage of hits and killing blows match up. There is a log at the bottom of when everyone entered and left the group. The group had 6 for both these kills, but Sweetly was camped out for the second example. I noticed we received xp while Sinnii was in group but out of zone which prompted the test of camping Sweetly out.

    While group was full and Faithe out of group no one received xp.


    Code:
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] Ravenbeauty hit a Clan Direwind carrionmancer for 102 points of chromatic damage by Storm Blade Strike.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer quivers as a bolt of energy surges through them.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] Ravenbeauty crushes a Clan Direwind carrionmancer for 1120 points of damage.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] Ravenbeauty crushes a Clan Direwind carrionmancer for 547 points of damage.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] Ravenbeauty tries to crush a Clan Direwind carrionmancer, but misses!
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] Your Ragestone Adorned Ring feels alive with power.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] Your faction standing with Direwind Gnolls has been adjusted by -1.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] Your faction standing with Nymphs of the Windwillow has been adjusted by 1.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] Your faction standing with Forces of Dyn'leth has been adjusted by -1.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer's corpse falls into a festering heap.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] You hit a Clan Direwind carrionmancer for 4467 points of fire damage by Equinox Burn Rk. III.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer is struck by the flames of the sun.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:20 2023] You have slain a Clan Direwind carrionmancer!
    
    Ravenbeauty inside the group
    Code:
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] You hit a Clan Direwind carrionmancer for 102 points of chromatic damage by Storm Blade Strike.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer quivers as a bolt of energy surges through them.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] You crush a Clan Direwind carrionmancer for 1120 points of damage.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] You crush a Clan Direwind carrionmancer for 547 points of damage.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] You try to crush a Clan Direwind carrionmancer, but miss!
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] Your faction standing with Direwind Gnolls has been adjusted by -1.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] Your faction standing with Nymphs of the Windwillow has been adjusted by 1.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] Your faction standing with Forces of Dyn'leth has been adjusted by -1.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] You receive 8 copper as your split (with a bonus).
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer's corpse falls into a festering heap.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] Faithe hit a Clan Direwind carrionmancer for 4467 points of fire damage by Equinox Burn Rk. III.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer is struck by the flames of the sun.
    [Mon May 08 15:57:22 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer has been slain by Faithe!
    

    Example where group with 6 members but only 5 members in zone and Faithe out group but all got xp.
    Parse from Ravenbeauty's log

    Faithe's log from out of group.
    Code:
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer is tormented by Ravenbeauty's frost for 67 points of non-melee damage.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer slashes Ravenbeauty for 198 points of damage.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer tries to hit Ravenbeauty, but misses!
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer tries to hit Ravenbeauty, but Ravenbeauty dodges!
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] Jobaner tries to bite a Clan Direwind carrionmancer, but misses!
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] Jobaner tries to bite a Clan Direwind carrionmancer, but misses!
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] Jobaner bites a Clan Direwind carrionmancer for 35 points of damage.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] Your faction standing with Direwind Gnolls has been adjusted by -1.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] Your faction standing with Nymphs of the Windwillow has been adjusted by 1.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] Your faction standing with Forces of Dyn'leth has been adjusted by -1.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] You gain party experience!
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer's corpse falls into a festering heap.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] Ravenbeauty hit a Clan Direwind carrionmancer for 111 points of magic damage by Spirit Leech.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer staggers.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer has been slain by Ravenbeauty!
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] Ravenbeauty is devoid of remorse or pity.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:18 2023] Ravenbeauty healed herself for 113 hit points by Spirit Leech.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:56 2023] Ravenbeauty tells General:1, 'ok....if one of the 6 members in my group are out of zone the out of group druid gets xp.'
    
    Ravenbeauty's Log inside group
    Code:
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer is tormented by YOUR frost for 67 points of non-melee damage.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer slashes YOU for 198 points of damage.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer tries to hit YOU, but misses!
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] Jobaner tries to bite a Clan Direwind carrionmancer, but misses!
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] Jobaner tries to bite a Clan Direwind carrionmancer, but misses!
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] Jobaner bites a Clan Direwind carrionmancer for 35 points of damage.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] Your faction standing with Direwind Gnolls has been adjusted by -1.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] Your faction standing with Nymphs of the Windwillow has been adjusted by 1.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] Your faction standing with Forces of Dyn'leth has been adjusted by -1.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] You gain party experience! (0.022%)
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] You receive 8 platinum, 2 gold, 8 silver and 1 copper as your split (with a bonus).
    [Mon May 08 16:42:19 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer's corpse falls into a festering heap.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:20 2023] You hit a Clan Direwind carrionmancer for 111 points of magic damage by Spirit Leech.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:20 2023] A Clan Direwind carrionmancer staggers.
    [Mon May 08 16:42:20 2023] You have slain a Clan Direwind carrionmancer!
    
    Group audit from Ravenbeauty's log
    Code:
    [Mon May 08 13:56:19 2023] You have joined the group.
    [Mon May 08 13:56:19 2023] Faithe has joined the group.
    [Mon May 08 13:56:52 2023] Crithappens has joined the group.
    [Mon May 08 14:09:55 2023] Elegante has joined the group.
    [Mon May 08 14:12:05 2023] Ladyfate has joined the group.
    [Mon May 08 15:24:22 2023] Sweetly has joined the group.
    [Mon May 08 15:33:32 2023] Faithe has left the group.
    [Mon May 08 15:33:40 2023] Nursinyea has joined the group.
    [Mon May 08 15:34:17 2023] Ladyfate has left the group.
    [Mon May 08 15:35:40 2023] Ladyfate has joined the group.
    [Mon May 08 16:30:46 2023] Nursinyea has left the group.
    [Mon May 08 16:33:01 2023] Sinnii has joined the group.
    [Mon May 08 16:55:25 2023] Sinnii has left the group.
    
  18. Soulbanshee Augur

    What timezone? Are you engaging the mob, group get on aggro, then swapping group members?

    Faithe did not get a exp % reported, which it should with the new messaging system, was there any exp actually applied to the exp bar? Another thing, DPS race should be whomever does 51% of the damage gets the kill and exp, but in the top one Faithe had the killshot, and in the bottom one Raven had the killshot which is curious.

    It may just be a client reporting error due to them changing the system, but the devs would have to check the server logs to be sure. Meaning the group is getting the exp regardless of what is logged, its just the server has an error in the reporting.
  19. Ravenbeauty New Member

    My time zone is Central if that is what you are referring to. No, I did not swap out group members after encounters started. I have no idea if it was xp applied or just reported. Faithe did minimal damage because I was just testing for repeatability.