Cry Carnage parse

Discussion in 'Melee' started by Wawa, May 13, 2013.

  1. Wawa Journeyman

    Raid buffs, attacking dummy from behind in GH. Cry Carnage rank 2 used in second parse. Maxed worn accuracy, all AAs etc. Magelo should be in sig.

    First parse is close to 8 hours, second is 14 hours, simply cause I started first one when I went to bed, and second as I went to work. Should be a decent enough sample anyway.

    No Cry carnage:
    /GU Combat Dummy Heda in 28560s, 246944k @8646dps --- Wawa 246944k @8646dps (99,98%)

    /tell Wawa Wawa -vs- Combat Dummy Heda: -- DMG: 246943571 -- DPS: 8646 -- Scaled: 8646 -- Slash: 243224140 -- DirDmg: 3719431 -- Non-crit rate: 57,3% -- crit rate: 42,7% -- Attempts: 70217 -- Hits: 57496 -- Missed: 12721 -- Accuracy: 81,9% -- Avg Hit: 4294 -- Max hit: 9370 -- DMG to PC: 0

    With Cry Carnage:
    /GU Combat Dummy Heda in 50744s, 458659k @9039dps --- Wawa 458659k @9039dps (100,02%)

    /tell Wawa Wawa -vs- Combat Dummy Heda: -- DMG: 458659215 -- DPS: 9039 -- Scaled: 9039 -- Slash: 452327573 -- DirDmg: 6331642 -- Non-crit rate: 53,4% -- crit rate: 46,6% -- Attempts: 124422 -- Hits: 102062 -- Missed: 22360 -- Accuracy: 82% -- Avg Hit: 4493 -- Max hit: 9370 -- DMG to PC: 0

    Conclusion: Cry carnage is every bit as useless as we thought [IMG] Not extended by AAs and uses way more endurance. Not sure what anyone thought the point of this "upgrade" was.
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  2. Ishtass Augur

    Overpowered, nerf
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  3. FatbukSlapmeat Augur

    We tried to ask for +Min Dmg or something in lieu of the accuracy, but it fell on deaf ears. You are absolutely right that there is zero use for this disc as it is inferior to the previous version due to AAs effecting it.
  4. Ishtass Augur

    I think every class is allotted a few discs/spells that do jack. Aristo isn't exactly known for listening.
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  5. Knutplate Lorekeeper

    I didn't notice much pride in craftsmanship.

    If fact, I didn't notice any.
  6. Slasher Augur

    The thing is why take the time to make the new disc if you're not going to make sure its actually an upgrade ? We waited 31 levels for this ? It would be like another class waiting 30 levels to get a spell upgrade and the spell costing more mana and doing the same damage.
  7. FatbukSlapmeat Augur

    More Endurance to do less
  8. Gragas Augur

    If you have a rogue in your group with Thief's Eye, no need to use it period, even though it cost's more endurance and does nothing to begin with?
  9. Brogett Augur

    I pointed this out during beta. There are two similarly named skills, accuracy and (I think off the top of my head) chance to hit. The former needs HUGE boosts to have any significant effect. I'm not sure why, but the math just seems to not work as expected. It's certainly not a straight percentage.
  10. Gragas Augur

    Cry Havoc is critical hit damage, Cry Carnage is critical hit damage and accuracy, so it was a nice thought, but not well designed, unless you add something else to Thief's Eyes or do not have a rogue in your group. Not being extended in length because of AA's means you cast it more often to keep it up, 160 more endurance for no parseable results= no one will use it over Cry Havoc.