Gratz Guilds. I did check out freelance loot system... thats pretty cool. and for a raid crew that does not have some really high raid attendance policy? pretty cool. back when i raided it was some top secret loot system that you just never new how and why someone got rewarded loot. you tell someone i want that and minutes later they say gratz so and so..
Few if any guilds have a genuine high raid attendance policy. RoI has a rank called "Retired Player ( Quitter )" which means they didn't deguild them for bad attendance and would presumably let those players back on raids if they wanted to play again and caught up. MS - Retired Triton - Retired Officers and Alumni IL - Inactive Member SoD - Inactive CT - Retired Status So if 0% attendance isn't getting you kicked out of the guilds most able to get new recruits and among the most successful in the game it's really unlikely that many guilds below them are clearing people out for not logging in, let alone the people with higher than 0% attendance.
1. Realm of Insanity - 06/23/2014 2. Triton - 08/04/2014 3. Shadows of Doom - 08/13/2014 4. Inverse Logic - 08/24/2014 5. Crimson Tempest - 09/07/2014 6. Freelance - 09/12/2014 7. Ring of Valor - 09/15/2014 8. Machin Shin - 09/22/2014 9. Silent Redemption - 09/29/2014 10. Pain and Glory - 10/02/2014 11. Descendents - 10/9/2014
This is more of an RoI thing, but we do have people in guild who can't or won't raid during our main raid night(s). Having players who have quit be able to say hi in /gu is neat, and some retired players might want to play casually and do group stuff every few months. As for what it takes to go from retired to raiding, that depends on our changing policy and the player. Our guild ranks may or may not actually mean something, since at least once a year, Qulas changes them to something Game of Thrones related.
Keeping tabs on who beat Plane of War when. Some are using it as the "Metric" for assigning best guild. Others are just genuinely curious about who has actually beaten the raid.
l After you've been in RoI, it's hard to be in any other guild... A lot of the retired people aren't allowed to reapply, so they just stay in that rank and hang with us.
Right, tracking is done to see who has beaten raids so you can send grats to someone you know, simply to list things for vanity/curiosity and/or use it to prioritize your own raid targets. Post on Oct 26th, 2010 using lavanet/egl, I forget if it's switched over at that point: Tick Tock - down to 9 guilds. Least progressed: Shahrazad - Trial of Deconstruction 2010-08-05, A Cunning Plan 2010-09-21, The Fungal Corruption 2010-10-10 Post on Nov 8th, 2010: Tick Tock up to 24 guilds. More guilds than have beaten Lichen (20) fewer guilds than have beaten Deconstruction (28). Any other Thule raid still at 6 or less. Nov 10th, 2010 - beat Tick Tock, deciding to switch targets from Lichen mainly because of publicly available information that suggested it was a fairly easy target (15 guilds beating it between those posts). The main practical value of a leader board, simpler and more efficient than getting random (trolling) replies asking about raids in a serverwide channel. "Metrics" are just a question of keeping up with the times. Order of beating the final progression raid was an awfully good way to rank guilds prior to T3 RoF and no metric was needed. After that at most 4 tracked raids are released at once (6 total raids in T4 RoF) and metrics are more "useful" limited to the fact that it's just winning raids in a video game. Shadows of Doom is the 5th guild to finish Underfoot, the 6th guild beats it 47 days and 5 levels later. SoD is pretty much indisputably Top 5 at the time. Fire and Fury is the 5th guild to beat all CotF progression raids, Ring of Valor is 6th and beats it 15min 5sec later and the "6th place" guild beats T1A, T1B, Tower of Rot, Burn Out and Plane of War before the "5th place" guild. So enter metrics and trying to present factual information as impartially as possible and Ring of Valor seems to be 7th, being close to neither 6th or 8th. If you're looking for a new guild because of drama or RL schedule and want a guild that has had similar (or better or worse) results over the last 2 years the metric ranking is a good starting point on your search for a new guild. Pain and Glory is 15th on metrics but has been one of the most successful guilds for the 4 most recent raids, the most important thing is having that information available so you can see: PoWar 10th, ToRot 9th, JHome 17th and Burn Out tied for 7th. If you're considering joining a guild hopefully you look at more than one composite rank based on arbitrary weightings for any given raid. Hopefully you even talk to people in P&G before deciding to join, especially if you have to server transfer.
Nice post Maeryn. I was just looking at our progress of starting out RoF at maybe #60 game wide and cotf at almost #50. So that really skews the numbers if you're looking at the whole and not the recent. Not that the numbers were lying, but looking at them more subjectively is good.
1. Realm of Insanity - 06/23/2014 2. Triton - 08/04/2014 3. Shadows of Doom - 08/13/2014 4. Inverse Logic - 08/24/2014 5. Crimson Tempest - 09/07/2014 6. Freelance - 09/12/2014 7. Ring of Valor - 09/15/2014 8. Machin Shin - 09/22/2014 9. Silent Redemption - 09/29/2014 10. Pain and Glory - 10/02/2014 11. Descendents - 10/9/2014 12. Sol Invictus - 10/13/2014
The issue I have with the list or any in particular is some of the guilds on that list only have downed war raid once. What shows a guilds true power is how often do they down that raid or any raid during there set schedule. Do they get all available viable raids down in there raid week with war? Do they skip raids which hurts there core members gear wise just so they can say they beat war once and never return or fail future attempts. As it stands RoV in its attempts on war never skipped raids that gear members and other then this last week due to vacation for some members has downed war every week within its 1-2 attempts.
All of my posts in the threads that no longer exist have said the same thing. The list is good for one thing, and one thing alone, and that is determining when each guild/team beat PoW the first time. Any inference after that requires more data.
