Bards not benefiting from some synergy's.

Discussion in 'Hybrid' started by Babien, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. Babien New Member

    I have tested the ability for Bard's to benefit from Rogue's, Ranger's and Wizard Synergy's and we do not. I haven't been able to confirm other classes. There is no way we can currently benefit from Wizard's line as a spell is required for it to proc and we sing songs unless a limit type code is introduced for our insult line. For Rogue's/Ranger's Synergy the only way to benefit from it is to illusion to a large race and use slam. I put this up for improvement under https://dgcissuetracker.com/browse/EQ-1371. Not sure if or when it will be looked into, just a note out there
  2. Derka Power Ranger

    Nice work. I hope it gets noticed.
  3. fransisco Augur

    No class benefits from all synergies.
  4. Bigfan Augur

    Also bards own synergy is garbage, so there is that as well..

    Wish rogue and ranger worked off selos kick... And bard one was worth casting nuke.
  5. Sirene_Fippy Okayest Bard

    [49713/49713] Outrider's Synergy I
    Classes: RNG/254
    Target: Caster Group
    Duration: 12s (2 ticks)
    Max Hits: 3 Offensive Proc Casts
    1: Cast: Outrider's Synergy Strike I on Skill Use (32000)
    2: Limit Skill: Archery
    3: Limit Skill: Backstab
    4: Limit Skill: Bash
    5: Limit Skill: Dragon Punch
    6: Limit Skill: Eagle Strike
    7: Limit Skill: Flying Kick
    8: Limit Skill: Kick
    9: Limit Skill: Round Kick
    10: Limit Skill: Throwing
    11: Limit Skill: Tiger Claw
    12: Limit Skill: Frenzy
    Text: Your skill attacks resonate with Outrider's Synergy.

    [49719/49719] Blackguard's Synergy I
    Classes: ROG/254
    Target: Caster Group
    Duration: 18s (3 ticks)
    Max Hits: 3 Offensive Proc Casts
    1: Cast: Blackguard's Synergy Strike I on Skill Use (32000)
    2: Limit Skill: Archery
    3: Limit Skill: Backstab
    4: Limit Skill: Bash
    5: Limit Skill: Dragon Punch
    6: Limit Skill: Eagle Strike
    7: Limit Skill: Flying Kick
    8: Limit Skill: Kick
    9: Limit Skill: Round Kick
    10: Limit Skill: Throwing
    11: Limit Skill: Tiger Claw
    12: Limit Skill: Frenzy
    Text: Your skill attacks resonate with Blackguard's Synergy.

    Bards don't meet the skill requirements for these, but I think this should count, I'm not sure why it doesn't -

    [41655/16791] Selo's Kick XV
    Classes: BRD/254
    Skill: Kick, Max Focus: 320%
    1: Kick Attack for 1050 with 10000% Accuracy Mod
    Text: You stagger from the surprising kick.

    Similar issue -

    Twinstrike (5)
    Level 105 -
    1: Increase Chance to Twincast by 5%
    2: Limit Max Duration: 0s
    3: Limit Type: Detrimental
    4: Limit Max Level: 254 (lose 100% per level)
    5: Limit Min Endurance Cost: 10
    6: Limit Effect: Skill Attack
    7: Limit Type: Include Combat Skills
    8: Limit Effect: Exclude Twincast Blocker
    9: Limit Class: ALL
    This passive ability grants a 1% chance per rank to perform a twincast each time you activate a skill attack combat ability.


    [50203/1655] Reflexive Rejoinder Rk. III
    Classes: BRD/105
    Skill: 1H Slash (Combat Skill)
    Endurance: 406
    Casting: 0s, Recast: 10m, Timer: 18
    Recourse: Reflected Rejoinder III
    1: 1H Slash Attack for 739 with 1000% Accuracy Mod
    2: 1H Slash Attack for 739 with 1000% Accuracy Mod
    3: 1H Slash Attack for 739 with 1000% Accuracy Mod
    4: 1H Slash Attack for 739 with 1000% Accuracy Mod
    Text: You are struck by a flurry of blades.

    This is our only combat skill. We could really use.. something. :p

    Since bard songs are not spells, we don't meet the requirements for Sympathetic procs either:

    [33328] Sympathetic Force of Magic XIII
    1: Cast: Force of Magic XIII on Spell Use (Base1=10) e.g. Cast Time 2s=2.5% 3s=3.3% 4s=5.0% 5s=6.7%
    2: Limit Type: Detrimental
    3: Limit Min Mana Cost: 10
    4: Limit Min Level: 70
    5: Limit Type: Exclude Combat Skills
    6: Limit Effect: Current HP

    This excludes us from a variety of other things, like Chromatic Haze, Mana Flare procs, our own Arcane Melody procs, our own spell damage bonus procs, new synergies from other classes as mentioned, etc.

    Not sure if fixable or not. It seems like a minor complaint, but getting left out on other peoples' benefits (i.e. Chromatic Haze, Synergies) adds up over time. I don't really think when they made the RNG/ROG synergies, they intentionally excluded bards. It seems to happen on accident, but it would be cool if bards could be included as well.
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  6. fransisco Augur

    It turns out enchanters do not benefit from their own synergy.

    Correction - their AE can use it, but no single target nuke enchanters have will trigger it.