DoN era Bst changes feedback post RoS patch

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by Goodkitty, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. Machentoo Augur


    I'd guess it is actually not that easy to balance abilities/dps/etc across all 24 expansions all at the same time, on changes like this. We've seen this time and time again--the innate melee dps changes that made sense on live but completely wrecked the tlp's, the dot changes which took forever to fix on tlp's.... Sometimes they come back and adjust for the TLP's and get it right. More often they don't bother.
  2. Goodkitty Augur

    They would only have to rebalance the dmg of feral swipe to fix this crap. They didn't have level 1 in mind when they did it obviously.
  3. Machentoo Augur


    Yep, but the point is, they would have to rebalance feral swipe to fix this crap, not just in OoW/DoN but in every other expansion between there and live... While also they need to rebalance the melee dps aa's through all 24 expansions to fix that crap, rebalance all the balance issues we haven't even encountered yet on the dots in the level 75-100 expansions to fix that crap (there are only about 12 of those!), rebalance the level 85-100 ac/armor mitigation changes to fix sod through voa (no progression server has even hit that yet!) and so on and so forth, to even begin to fix it all. It is far, far easier to just make changes that fix problems on live, and assume the progression servers will just deal with it. Whatever the impact may be. This is what they have been doing for the last six years now, and it probably isn't gonna change.
  4. Baldur Augur

    Your logic is flawed because if the problem was in the other direction, that their change to feral swipe caused a massive increase in BL dps on TLPs, they'd hotfix it the next day.

    There is also precedent for them fixing things for TLPs that were broke from a change for live. The DoT revamps are a prime example. The druid and shaman DoT revamps completely broke them for TLPs and they fixed them. There's no reason they can't do the same here.
  5. Goodkitty Augur

    I'm not telling them to fix level 2-19 of Feral swipe. Just level 1

    Level 2 unlocks @ lvl 71 The serpent's spine and might go from 2-3 (not sure)
  6. Jahtw Journeyman

    Do all of have your round kick skill level maxed out? The base dmg of your (round) kick will be a function of that. Ditto for tail rake, etc...
    Foot AC also will not affect round kick dmg, it gives a bonus to kick and flying kick only (each 25 AC = +1 base dmg).
  7. Boze TLP complaint factory

    Yes you automatically have max skill from patch.

    Normal Kick still outparses Round Kick + Feral Swipe rank 2 @ level 71 on test.
  8. Goodkitty Augur

    Wow.
  9. Machentoo Augur


    This isn't necessarily true. The melee dps aa's have given an unneeded massive dps boost to progression servers, and it would be easy for them to address it, but here we are years later and it is still not fixed.
  10. Boze TLP complaint factory

    The good news is the DoDH swarm pet spell adds around ~150dps, and getting double attack at 71 added roughly ~100dps even though it's capped at 5 skill.