Since VS is getting the Orion and SVA-88 Nerfed...

Post your stats with them then.

People don't really use the weapons those are based off of already, adding Heat ammo to those weapons isn't going to make people magically use them. But since you insist...the Eclipse out performs the Solstice and the Darkstar out performs the Pulsar. However the VX67 and Terminus out perform both respectively.

The Orion wasn't OP according to stats and the Betelgeuse was over performing at about the same rate over the Orion as the Eclipse is over the Solstice.

Non 0.75 ADS LMG's that are more accurate, have more damage per magazine, and hit harder than VS LMG's you mean. Once again showing your bias and only focusing on one stat.

Also, VS have had to put up with lower damage per magazine for all but 2 of our AR's and Carbines since release and yet nothing has been done to address the issue that almost all NC and TR carbines and AR's clearly have a distinct advantage.

I seem to recall the VS refrain being "0.75x ADS doesn't matter". And now when it's being taken away from them it seems to matter very much.

I wonder what would happen if they also were threatened with losing "no bullet drop"?

Your LMG's aren't even bad.

Also when your using a LMG's a majority of your time isn't strafing.

Dude, you need to grow up.

I'm sure they'd complain, but conversely TR and NC wouldn't bat a lash because by the time they would have to compensate for bullet drop with their automatics, the target is so far out the likelihood of getting the kill is directly proportional to just how oblivious to being shot at their target really is. At that distance, the natural CoF of the weapon would screw with TTK big time, never mind recoil.

Basically, the only time bullet drop matters is on semi-automatics... which almost no one uses anyway because BA's can one shot, and semi autos are effectively trash between muzzle velocities, TTKs, and recoil.

No, it's really that bad. Auraxing the Pulsar LSW was physically painful, and the Flare is just as bad, being a hand-me-downgrade of another faction's weapons. The Ursa is an even slower killing but slightly more accurate Flare, which puts it firmly in the 'bad' circle. And the Polaris is an unfocused, slow firing answer in search of a question, just like the EM1 and the Rhino, which means it lives on the same street as the other 3 bad VS LMGs. After the loss of the .75 ADS, the SVA-88 is going to be moving in as well, as even if it's recoil gets reduced to assault rifle levels, it will still be a Pulsar AR (with 75 rounds), another gun that struggles to do anything.

The Ursa has the lower DPS of any LMG outside of the NS-15 which is keeping it's 0.75 ADS, the Flare is the least accurate 167 LMG, and the Pulsar is absolutely trash so try again.

No, it's actually bad. LSW and Polaris are kind of a joke, neither good accuracy or good TTK.

While Flare and Ursa both have higher horizontal recoil than all other 167dmg LMGs for no apparent reason. And no particularly substantial benefits either to make up for that.

You know there's another 143 / 750 gun with .75 ADS...

Dude, you need to post your stats with weapons you keep claiming aren't bad.

No...they are actually bad.

Just walk away. They're not here for a dicussion.

Neither were people like Scr1nRusher that whined about 0.75 ADS for months on end.

0.75 ADS didn't matter when we also had the worst accuracy and no SPA which was why the Anchor has been outperforming the Orion for months.

Stop. No. LOL. Good joke. Be madder. GG.

While we're at it giving god mode to a MBT is clearly a broken game mechanic that needs to be removed.

Why are you so empty?

"god mode"

you mean limited damage resistance that can simply be avoided for what 6 seconds?