Building a computer!

Discussion in 'Player Support' started by Klawsqt, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. Klawsqt

    Hey guys I need a little help building a computer I previously made a post asking help for my low fps and we concluded that it was my graphics card (nvidia gt 620) so now I'm building a new computer after taking that one back to the store this is what I got so far.

    Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127616
    Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116502
    Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233202
    Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027&Tpk=Corsair 500 power supply
    Case: http://www.frys.com/product/6690504?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
    DVD - ROM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151258
    Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837
    Operating System: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416550
    HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148855

    $939.91

    If you guys see any ways to improve this let me know also thoughts on the nvidia GTX 660 ti??
  2. TheAppl3

    Get a 3570 instead of the 3770 if your prime concern is gaming, it does the same thing. Why the garbage cheapo refurbished 16mb cache HDD? I'd personally go for a 1TB WD Caviar Black drive.

    I suggested in the other thread that you get the $2 more ASUS CD/DVD burner that has over 4,000 reviews and an overall 5-egg rating instead of that POS.

    RAM, mobo, PSU are solid. GPU is fine, 660Ti is obviously better but it depends on whether you want to spend $120 more. The 3570 with a 660Ti would be better than a 3770 with a 560Ti and pretty much the same price.
  3. Klawsqt

  4. Klawsqt

    what do you think of it now?
  5. TheAppl3

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533 = WD Caviar Black 1TB drive. I have two of that exact model in this computer, I love them. They're pricey but effective. I've had at least a dozen other WD Caviar Black drives and zero have failed. They're not the quietest drives by the way. Not crazy loud but you'll hear them a little when reading or writing at close to max ability. It's only important if you're obsessive about minimizing the noise from your PC.

    That would put you at like $1,020 or something. Double the space, quadruple the cache, brand new Caviar Black (the performance series, blue is standard and green is low-power) drive instead of a refurbished one.
  6. Fantom_17

    (someone said in his post you had a 660 ti. when i click the link I see 560 ti so maby this is not relavent)

    Nvidia is running a promotion so you get $150 free game money for world of tanks, planetside 2 and hawken. It seems pretty easy to set up a trade with someone who owns another game so you could get $150 SC which would let you get a TON of stuff and have a free graphics card update thrown in (I think the difference is $150 between the 560 ti and 660 ti but dont quote me on that)

    also I read a post somewhere that a SSD really helped out his framerate (+5-10 fps) because of loading between hexes so you also might want to think about a 40-60 gig one for just planetside and windows. they are pretty cheap an it will make windows work a lot better.

    everything looks solid though, you definitly hit the CPU on the head. have fun.
  7. SoloDayz

    I would recommend a better PSU 500 is somethign your'll regret down the road try for a 750w minimum. It just allows for a little more future upgrades.

    When i built my pc my requirements were 600w so i did a 750w and i still burned it out had to buy a 1050w so that i had a larger power buffer.
  8. TheAppl3

    A quality power supply at around 50-125w above what he actually needs is perfectly adequate. A 77w chip and a 170w GPU should require a 425w or so minimum to allow for the fact that TDP is an average and for other system components. Obviously a small buffer is nice so a 500w should be okay, I would personally do 600w because I'm odd about that. 750w is overkill unless he plans to SLI in the future.

    If your power requirements were accurately 600w and that calculation wasn't a mistake, a 750w PSU burning out on that was not caused by power draw itself. Either the PSU was defective, it was a low quality brand, or a surge hit it. 1050w for anything but a triple-SLI setup is beyond overkill.
  9. Klawsqt

    Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127696
    Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
    Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233202
    Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028
    Case: http://www.frys.com/product/6690504?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
    DVD - ROM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
    Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837
    Operating System: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416550
    HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

    $1,047,92

    now I'm too high that is the price not including shipping/taxes so what can I do to lower that?
  10. werzinator

    OP: Do you live near a Microcenter? You can get a motherboard+processor combo at a deal that's even cheaper than Newegg after taxes. I got an i5-2500K and a Gigabyte Z68MA-D2H-B3 motherboard for $250 last November, I got my brother an i5-3570K and an ASRock motherboard for $270 this past August.
  11. TheAppl3

    Well you have $35 of mail-in rebates there. Also, why are you buying the extra RAM? The motherboard comes with 8GB of Corsair Vengeance for free. I just added it to my cart and the RAM is there. That's a full $50 saved, which pays for the case. It's only one module which I wouldn't prefer, but it's free ;)

    You could go for a cheaper motherboard (~$125) to save a little. The difference between $125 and $150 is usually stuff like 2 vs 4 SATA3 ports, etc. Personally I would sooner buy a $125 motherboard with less of the features that you don't really need than stick with the $150 one and use only one RAM module but that's up to you.

    You can save $20 on the hard drive by going 500GB if you think that will be sufficient for you: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236345
  12. Fantom_17

  13. Fantom_17


    beat me to it :)
  14. drednok

    could always get the 8350 amd and save some money

    btw with that motherboard you could keep the 620 and enable sli, but youd have to get an sli bridge or whatever connects the 2+ video cards
  15. Fantom_17

  16. Apneal

    This is some of the components that I researched heavily and upgraded to, with some of the options being way cheaper than what you're considering. Averaging 80fps at max graphics settings.

    Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157335 this thing is absolutely solid. It has all the features you expect in a modern motherboard and absolutely no excess. 100bucks cheaper, but you only have 1 PCI 3.0 slot, and 2 RAM slots. If that's all you use, yer winnin!
    Processor: your i5-3570k you're choosing is what I got.
    Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445 also super solid, and the timings are a bit tighter for better performance
    Graphics: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121651 Now you may say "well the 7850 is not quite as good as the 660 Ti...". Well, stock, yes. But after overclocks are done, that 7850 at stable overclock will outperform a stable overclocked 660 Ti with standard air cooling. Plus, you save almost $100! My card on standard air-cooling has a 30% performance boost with the core clock at 1150, Memory @ 1330, Power Limit +10%, and core voltage 1206mV without exceeding 86 celcius after 5 minutes at full burn benchmarking.

    With these trades, you'll save $200 without sacrificing any performance ;)

  17. Apneal

    If you're saying to get a single 8-gig stick, you'd cut the memory speed in half (no dual-channel)

    The ASRock I suggested with the i5-3570k is $270 on newegg :D
  18. Klawsqt

    ok thanks just curious how do you overclock your graphics card is it something you have to take it into a shop for?
  19. Apneal

    Nope, and as the years go on it gets simpler and simpler. ATI actually has built-in things in the control panel to overclock, but I personally use a program called MSI Afterburner because I love the ability to change the fan speed VS temperature slope

    I suggest researching overclocking, it was the whole concept of performance tweaking and overclocking that turned me from a computer user to a f'in PC beast roughly 13 years ago or so
  20. LibertyRevolution

    Not sure if your watching your old thread.. so I'm going to post this here also..

    Here is a benchmark test done during beta...
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    More here: http://forums.videocardz.com/topic/188-planetside-2-performance-test/