I'm all for the new mechanic where everyone in group gets to loot em when one drops, but with this new mechanic, the drop rate really needs to be looked at, getting 6 spirits between 3 instances is WAY too much, thats just what I've gotten so far today, with some casual dungeon running. This gear is supposed to be the best of standard heroic gear, with the exception of the rare HM loot, but the drop rate on spirits like it has been today, and I really hope its just a fluke day, is just way too far over the top.
Well, i have one day, where i (could) get 3 spirits out of allmost every instance, where other days, there only drop 2 at 3 instances. Lucky factors is something that comes into play, when soe dont want to think of ^^
yes, but even at 1-2 a day, running many instances, thats a GOOD number of spirits, 3-6 is WAY over the top for fairly casual play.
Interesting how when it goes up now there are "too high" thread instead of "too low" threads, I joke though this is imo what it should have been from the start. Maybe rates need to be tweaked a little but really. I would rather they introduce a daily Obol quest and just jack up the number of Obol we need.
Well.... perhaps that what´s happen next ^^ obolprices increase bei 100% ^^ i know no soe offical will read that anyways. But before that happen, i need to stuff some twinks of mine
Well for me I would like to see something akin to this system. Greater Essensces/Greater Spirits = 1 "rare" token needed for an item. Obol = common currency. With Daily Quests for Obol Armor costs 150 Obol and 1 Greater Spirit. Jewelry costs 1 Essence and 200-250 Obol (thus encouraging gearing armor and staying alive first.) I would also like to see a return of Raid-Shards we can use to buy our own Adornments that are different from the "upgraded War Runes" which is what drops now.
At least the raidshards should return or make obol the next payment, but bring back those adornmentsvendors
I guess you guys are just getting lucky... because just today, a group of guildies and I ran through the instances as fast as we could. After about 6 hours, and many, many, MANY instances later, we saw a total of 1 greater spirit drop, and about 6 Obols. To this day... we have yet to see ANY of the other rare currencies drop...
I can't really call any amount of spirits 'too much' after the underdepths fiasco. Wasn't difficult at all to get a full set of armor with doze heads in a day or two. Not to mention towards the end the heads could be turned in for jewelry and such, spirits are still limited to armor.
The gear is not the best, solo loot is. I'd much rather too many spirits than not enough. There was and still is no large incentive for nonraiders such as myself to run the new zones. Having spirits drop more commonly is somewhat a better incentive since i can gear alts easier but solo still yields a better reward. The whole system needs to be changed including the merchant gear and dropped gear. Spirits dropping in too large a quantity is not the problem here. Upping drop rates and making them group wide were 2 steps in the right direction.
/eyeroll, you do realize not all the stewards stuff isn't even discoed? The rate drop is fine. If anything nerf the op's personal drop rate since it offends them so. We aim to please heres the disco for inquis gloves on unrest, just a couple days ago. (inquis the most "op" healer according to another similar thread on these forums) Daisybee Unrest Jan 4, 2013 @ 11:51:14 pm
lol Steward's Bracer of Reckoning Ballares Unrest Nov 16, 2012 @ 11:15:29 pm Albynno Antonia Bayle Nov 22, 2012 @ 2:54:17 am Khanonymous Butcherblock Nov 23, 2012 @ 9:52:13 pm Unknown Freeport Nov 27, 2012 @ 7:43:19 pm Rhodamine Sebilis Nov 29, 2012 @ 8:59:39 am Baji Everfrost Dec 4, 2012 @ 1:50:06 am Филеас Barren Sky Dec 5, 2012 @ 9:08:02 am Zugio Oasis Dec 10, 2012 @ 1:45:13 pm Delanial Splitpaw Jan 4, 2013 @ 8:59:08 am Strokes Storms Jan 5, 2013 @ 9:19:54 am
Steward's Circle of Reckoning - not even discoed on unrest yet Stagga Permafrost Nov 19, 2012 @ 5:03:55 pm Porkies Splitpaw Dec 1, 2012 @ 4:58:30 am Unknown Freeport Dec 1, 2012 @ 4:06:31 pm Finriswolf Valor Dec 2, 2012 @ 12:26:13 pm Onat Oasis Dec 5, 2012 @ 2:25:10 am Colossus Butcherblock Dec 10, 2012 @ 8:18:16 pm Jukeboxe Storms Dec 16, 2012 @ 12:18:34 pm Bilzorina Nagafen Dec 17, 2012 @ 2:37:32 pm Trandom Antonia Bayle Dec 24, 2012 @ 11:57:56 pm Unknown Harla Dar Dec 31, 2012 @ 9:54:43 am Tsila Crushbone Jan 3, 2013 @ 12:29:20 am Jasmijn Guk Jan 4, 2013 @ 5:59:24 pm Pale Sebilis Jan 6, 2013 @ 2:13:55 am
stewards bandoleer of battle - hey that's my disco lol - also still getting discoed Ambrin Nagafen Nov 15, 2012 @ 1:39:30 am Bucko Freeport Nov 21, 2012 @ 6:35:18 pm Gottegris Splitpaw Nov 29, 2012 @ 2:38:10 am Andreia Storms Nov 29, 2012 @ 6:26:46 am Typos Unrest Dec 1, 2012 @ 6:35:04 pm Unknown Valor Dec 2, 2012 @ 8:31:35 am Морел Barren Sky Dec 3, 2012 @ 2:41:56 pm Unknown Harla Dar Dec 8, 2012 @ 6:24:41 am Starfeesh Oasis Dec 10, 2012 @ 2:02:55 am Klink Guk Dec 15, 2012 @ 5:00:23 pm Xticy Crushbone Dec 16, 2012 @ 3:14:24 pm Siver Everfrost Dec 18, 2012 @ 1:04:24 pm Cameden Antonia Bayle Dec 23, 2012 @ 3:27:03 pm Jackda Permafrost Dec 25, 2012 @ 10:00:41 pm Truckinthree Butcherblock Jan 3, 2013 @ 3:32:22 am
here's shammy gloves.. not discoed on half the servers Rorrre Splitpaw Nov 23, 2012 @ 4:09:14 pm Loamy Nagafen Nov 26, 2012 @ 5:16:39 pm Reciurc Antonia Bayle Dec 11, 2012 @ 8:49:28 pm Unknown Storms Dec 14, 2012 @ 9:07:01 pm Potenz Everfrost Dec 28, 2012 @ 9:18:40 pm Weediewierie Guk Jan 1, 2013 @ 6:03:44 pm Forestel Freeport Jan 2, 2013 @ 2:25:55 am Trosen Unrest Jan 4, 2013 @ 4:02:52 pm Khaosfreak Oasis Jan 5, 2013 @ 9:19:37 am
I want to know where you are getting all these spirits. I'm a casual player - I have a couple hours each night. I usually run 1-2 zones most nights of the week. I've seen a total of 2 of the spirits drop. The first one, I lost the roll. The second one was last night - so I was able to get it with this new change. We got one out of running two zones. I think we also got a total of 3 obols for the night. I'm excited I get one piece of gear! After doing these zones how many times? Based on comments from my guildmates, they don't see many spirits drop either.
with the way its setup, everyone in group getting one when they drop, they should remain fairly rare, not 1-3 out every instance, the only instance I've run where I haven't seen more then 1 drop is Harrow's End. TotF, DC, ToF, WC, WE, ST have all dropped 2+ when I have run them since the update yesterday, at that rate, I can gear my army of alts, 11 toons, in MAYBE a week tops, provided the obols drop. Thats over the top and too much and makes it nothing special. Yes, SS faction gear was fairly easy to get, but you were limited to around 3 a day avg, and that took 3-4 hours running UD everytime it was unlocked. This new steward gear has now gone from something most people will be able to have eventually to something that will be expected of everyone now, because theres no reason to NOT have it. Sure, you can get gear thats a step up, rarely dropping out of solo instances, EM CoE raid gear, but it is, as it should be RARE, the spirits aren't even uncommon at this point, and the only reason the obols can gate you from spending them is because it takes 10 obols to spend 1 spirit. If sony is pushing everyone to be geared for X4 raiding within a week of creation, leave it as is, but the current drop rate leaves no amount of work involved in getting it. If I'm really the exception seeing an average of 2+ spirits dropping per instance, fine, leave it as is, but the drop rate I am seeing is beyond ridiculous and way too much to be reasonable. I.E. yesterday alone, I was able to get 7 pieces of steward gear, and still have 2 spirits I can't spend from a lack of obols, and spent a good hour farming obols in OP just to spend an essence. Thats ridiculous considering I only ran 5 dungeons, 2 of which were HE where only 1 spirit dropped the first time and none the second.
Right there in red is my problem with CoE. Solo > Heroic for time invested. Even is Solo is 164 and Heroic is 168... that is NOT a large enough gap given what players now expect because of the DoV Gear inflation. Back in SF/TSO days sure 4 STR was an upgrade; not anymore. As I said above I want the return of Heroic Quests with the Obol being the primary component for gear/jewelry almost to the point of move Greater Spirits to being "raid-shards" and leave Essences as a special item Tradeskillers can use to upgrade gear. Perhaps if Solo gear was markedly worse than Heroic but could be upgraded with a Heroic Essence to be better than Heroic... there could be some real incentive to Solo AND Group but not really punish either playstyle.
