Why is the raid out of combat regen timer so long?

yeah it is no use these days with all the other tools.... it's just a time waster now.

Point out that they have added abilities designed around the raid ooc timer and players not liking it because raids are short in early EQ isn't a loss.

It already takes 30 seconds to do an ooc mgb, because that's how long the camp timer takes.

And bypassing the timer because of zoning isn't intended and is a bug. It is just likely that it isn't a high priority bug.

It is an L, because you should know better than to suggest that they designed raids around 5 minute timers. That's hilariously incorrect. ALSO, as pointed out, many times, there are a bunch of ways to circumvent that timer. Therefore making it pointless.

This is another dumb hill to die on. Please be better.

I never said or suggested that they designed raids around the 5 minute ooc timer. What I suggested is that we have abilities like tranquil blessing that is a quick reuse out of combat mass group buff because they have a longer ooc timer for raids.

Correct... which can also be used after a gate+banner...

And as I also stated being able to get around the ooc timer by zoning is clearly a bug.

Please provide proof of claims.

Proof of what claim? Are you really suggesting that being able to bypass something in the game by zoning isn't a bug?

One could easily make the argument that you being in combat in one zone, should not penalize you in the guild hall or something. Also, that the ways to circumvent the 5min timer all take 30-45seconds, which still makes the 30 sec timer useful.

And those timers can refresh if you hit someone with a ooc countdown timer even in the guild hall. The fact is that they put in a countdown timer and that timer does not go away even after you zone. If they really intended for it to go away when you zoned they would also remove the timer as well.

Just like they intended the final fugue group mission to give a 5min raid timer? Sure thing.

Here is a big spoiler you may not be aware of Waring, not all things in the game are there by design choices.

All design choices are intended. Dont like the moving spell cast window in the new UI? Too bad! It's 100% design intent

No it isn't. Meeko said so and even said he put fixing the display bug after zoning on his list of things to fix.

Really? Trying to compare a bug in the timer in a group mission to a bug in being able to bypass a timer by zoning?

Did he say that he wanted to fix the display showing when it shouldn't be or that he was going to fix it so that you could bypass the 5 minute timer when zoning? There is a longstanding bug with the timer not acting properly when you are hovering and still happening after the 5 minutes should have expired which is not the same as zoning to bypass the timer.

He said dropping combat when zoning isn't a bug and he wanted to fix the display that still showed the combat timer.

I have heard different things