Chronos Ruin the 1999 experience

Discussion in 'Time Locked Progression Servers' started by Blastaway, Jun 8, 2017.

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  1. Zansobar Augur


    You do know you can buy Kronos for plat, then buy that item with the Krono and therefore you just bought that item with plat?
  2. daffie999 Augur

    I always see people use this argument... RMT was NEVER anywhere even close to what it is today.
  3. Smak Augur



    No, rmt trades were rare or unheard of outside of possibly friends/family and I never even heard about one that happened until wow was released and I knew of one rmt of someone quitting eq to play wow instead. The assumption you have that real money was traded on a daily, or hourly basis for plat items or characters less than a year after eq started is what I call a fallacy. Yet you are free to believe your own version of history, make sure you read your history books too because you can believe all that fake news too.

    Also Krono is NOT a real money trade, all krono is... is letting someone else pay an extra couple bucks and use THEIR cc to pay for a month of YOUR gameplay. No player gains real money, in fact one player loses more money than the true cost of a subscription for a single month.

    If you could convert Krono back into a portion of real money after you trade plat or items for it, then that would be a facilitated real money trade.

    Face it, krono has no value because the game is already free to play. And any plat or items you gain from trading away krono has zero monetary value as well. In fact the most powerful everquest character in a current raid level guild of any class has zero value because it doesn't put food on the table, doesn't pay for the table, doesn't pay for the house to put the table in, doesn't pay for the clothes on your back when you leave your house, all of the characters in everquest don't even have a pot to piss in since you cannot relieve yourself ingame, and the belief in your immortal character is revealed as a fallacy when eq sunsets later on just like eqoa did.
  4. Risiko Augur

    This conversation makes no sense.

    First off, it wasn't Kronos that created a situation where people raced to max level to farm. That's just beyond crazy to say because people have been racing to max level to farm in EQ since the first day it was released.

    The only difference is that people farmed to buy and horde platinum originally, and now they farm to buy and horde Krono.

    The actions and motives are exactly the same between 1999 and 2017. The only thing that differs is what people use as their reserve for their wealth. Krono is usable across server and across game (EQ, EQ2, DC, etc). It makes much more sense to put your wealth reserve in to Krono than platinum.

    That being said, platinum is still an acceptable form of currency in Everquest. Just because people use the Krono exchange like they do the New York Stock Exchange in real life does not in anyway take away the fact that platinum is the main currency in Everquest.

    It's just more lucrative to invest your platinum in to Krono for the long term than it is to hold it in platinum. The same can be said in real life with cash versus stocks and bonds.

    In fact, there are other forms of investment currency in EQ that have been there since 1999. That is gems and crafting materials. They are not nearly as stable as the Krono exchange market, but they are investment currency non the less.
  5. Risiko Augur

    That quite simply is not true.

    Back between 2002 and 2004, people sold accounts for upwards of $2,000. In fact, I remember hearing about some people getting as much as $4,000 for jedi characters in SWG.

    I guarantee you there is nobody buying EQ accounts today for even a third of that, and that's just the account market.

    The platinum market was insanely lucrative back in the day. That's why the plat farmers came along and created a multi-million dollar industry. They didn't do it because they were bored.

    The RMT market for EQ is a dismal shell of what it used to be. Those people that are telling you they are making bank off of RMT Kronos are lying to you.

    It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more lucrative to just get a real job than it is to level up a 6 box, farm Efreeti all day, every day to sell rings and buy Krono to sell to RMT sites. Adults with real jobs (like most of us that still play this game) make between 50k to 100k a year. There is no way we would give up our day jobs to work 24 hours a day in EQ to sell Kronos for $12 to $14. You can make more money with your time working at McDonalds saying, "you want fries with that."

    Do you realize how many Kronos you would have to earn per month to equal even a 30k a year job?

    Stop trying to glamorize the black market. It's nothing like it used to be.
  6. Smak Augur



    YUP,as I pointed out changing from a 100 based system to a 10 based system was one thing that happened that made platinum less valuable, but krono selling for 1k on agnarr and 2.5 million on standard servers... means that players who invest into krono on tlps and also facilitate foreign exchanges between servers involving parallel trades of other goods can mean profits in the many thousands of percents when finally complete.

    This is actually way more profitable than when sc was selling at 1/3rd cost or something and could be used to pay for subscriptions as well. Only thing is that daybreak doesn't lose money, they make more this way.

    Also reinvesting the krono back into tradeskill materials could have big profits too as you pointed out.
  7. RadarX Augur

    As a reminder please be constructive when posting.
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