Hello mages, Any chance to see some parses of your fights against random Velious bosses with MotM. Both with and without epic pet on targets both resistant to fire and not. /Meemers
I know there's a pet bug joke in there somewhere. But no, i am in doubt of the numbers compared to a rogue, as i am considering replacing my rogue with a mage to get malo. I really dont find the rogue to be pulling his weight compared to monks. And monks have more utility than the rogue has. And as i dont have access to 1.0 ratio weapons or 41% haste items, im thinking that the mage would be a more viable option. Especially because i dont have malo and only tash and OoS + Fullfil. I just wanted some numbers before i made the final decission.
Legitimately not joking. You can't use an epic pet on motm bosses because they generate too much agro and you will get summoned and die. The water pet should be used on raid targets. Mages parse well when they can actually dps, but most are relegated to mod rods for the raid since that provides more stability. Once luclin releases, we will see what mages are capable of as they get ae mod rods and will get a chance to actually dps. For the most part, a rogue is going to be significantly better, but if you have no malo for group content, it might be worth the switch. Mages also make for very good group mates.
Vulak`Aerr in 996s, 2029k @2037 --- #16 Mage + pets 60k@(62 in 969s) [2.97%] WITH 21 mod rods cast. Lady Nevederia in 660s, 1136k @1721 --- #9 Mage + pets 40k@(61 in 650s) [3.49%] Unknown rod # cast Lord Feshlak in 259s, 771k @2977 --- #17 Mage + pets 20k@(76 in 258s) [2.53%] No rods Lord Vyemm in 268s, 639k @2385 --- #32 Mage + pets 9k@(33 in 265s) [1.36%] No rods Ikatiar the Venom in 131s, 473k @3611 --- #20 Mage 10k@(120 in 87s) [2.22%] 2 Rods Growth Trash in 2036s, 5338k @2622 --- #2 Mage + pets 256k@(146 in 1748s) [4.79%] Cazic-Thule in 452s, 808k @1788 --- #10 Mage + pets 33k@(77 in 421s) [4.04%] We (AoS) only really have 1 active Mage on most nights and he does a lot of work that makes him unable to go hard every mob so my sample size isn't the best.
Does look like i will be sacrificing ALOT of DPS if i change. Problem is i do not have access to high ratio daggers. Got any parses of rogues, Ducreux?
I'm slightly confused about your dilemma. You don't have access to high ratio daggers or 41% haste (epic hello??) but you are trying to build a box team that can take down Velious marked mobs? What exactly are you killing, or trying to kill?
Yes ofcourse, i forgot about the epic. But if you get like salandrite (sp?) and tunare dagger for example,m then you'd need doze wrist or like
Cazic-Thule in 452s, 808k @1788 --- #2 Bobbybick 54k@(125 in 432s) [6.67%] Dozekar the Cursed in 273s, 675k @2472 --- #6 Bobbybick 30k@(113 in 262s) [4.4%] Tunare in 258s, 931k @3607 --- #6 Bobbybick 36k@(163 in 222s) [3.89%] Ikatiar the Venom in 131s, 473k @3611 --- #6 Bobbybick 18k@(141 in 128s) [3.82%] Eashen of the Sky in 143s, 458k @3202 --- #6 Bobbybick 19k@(155 in 125s) [4.23%] Aaryonar in 319s, 742k @2326 --- #1 Bobbybick 37k@(123 in 302s) [5.02%] Lord Vyemm in 268s, 639k @2385 --- #3 Bobbybick 29k@(108 in 267s) [4.52%] Lord Feshlak in 259s, 771k @2977 --- #36 Bobbybick 8k@(32 in 257s) [1.07%] *BAREFIST CHALLENGE* Dagarn the Destroyer in 294s, 563k @1916 --- #3 Bobbybick 24k@(82 in 293s) [4.25%] Lord Koi`Doken in 306s, 1137k @3717 --- #6 Bobbybick 43k@(140 in 304s) [3.76%] Lady Nevederia in 660s, 1136k @1721 --- #1 Bobbybick 65k@(99 in 656s) [5.72%] Vulak`Aerr in 996s, 2029k @2037 --- #4 Bobbybick 81k@(83 in 969s) [3.99%] Both the Rogue and Mage in my parses are essentially BIS for Velious.
Easiest 41% haste item to replace epic with is probably Yelinak's neck or gloves. Some of the ToV dragons aren't too bad and have 41% haste belts or such. Should also note that bards can lower MR and/or FR a bit more depending on the mob (+denon or chant).
Did anyone have the idea to try to parse added damage through DS ? I suppose it's hard to do as only the shielded person can parse that, but would be worth to do on a main tank to see if it is significant or not on boss fights.
GamParse will seperate out the DS damage automatically and attribute it to whatever tank caused it as "Environmental" as long as you have the filters ingame to actually show damage shields on others. On most fights where the mob can be fully slowed it will add around 3-6k damage, but that also depends on how much total DS they have (ancient druid / bard songs / clicks etc). Mobs like AoW / KT where they are unslowable and flurry it can add a LOT of total damage though, usually upwards of 15k+ provided all the tanks have DSs up and the mobs total HP. Warrior -vs- King Tormax: -- DMG: 22234 -- DPS: 101 -- Scaled: 100 -- Environmental: 14456 -- Slash: 6292 -- Kick: 865 -- DirDmg: 621
Thanks Ducreux, can I see (if I open up the filters) the environmental damage if I am not the shielded person ?
