Just wondering how bad ranger DPS is compared to the others in classic. I know its not good, but is it like 10% behind monk or 50%? I was having trouble finding actual numbers about this. If they aren't too far behind then I will still roll one but if its really bad then I wont. Also curious about how they compare in Kunark and Velious. I want to play on Mangler because the 1 month unlocks seems too fast on Selo's but rather not be playing a sorta "gimped" dps for several months in the meantime. thanks.
Monk 100% - warrior / ranger 50% - Paladin/SK - 30% - Bard 20% Though for grouping ranger is probably a more useful tank than most for the first few expansions. Snare / Sow / Root / Harmony + DPS and tanking about the same as a warrior for group content.
Having main healed in classic>pop warriors, sk’s and pallies are way easier to heal then rangers. The discrepancy gets wider as the plate tanks ac pulls further and further ahead. They can tank in a pinch, but j wouldnt want to main heal for any significant amount of time with a ranger tankin.
Based on my personal observations raiding all of classic... In classic the raid boss dps listing will usually be something like this: 1) Charm pet (Enc / Nec) - 170 2) Monk - 100 3) Nec / Wiz - 90 4) Mage - 80 5) Shaman / Druid - 70 6) Rogue / Ranger - 40 7) Shadow Knight - 35 8) Warrior - 30 9) Paladin - 28 10) Bard - 17 11) Cleric (not dpsing) - 0
I mean you're not wrong, but this bow requires a 2% drop rate item from Eye of Veeshan. Probably can count on one hand how any will exist on Mangler before Kunark era.
Would be interested to see these parses... I know a ranger with CoF bowing can do decent... didnt think they aproached much less surpassed monks
Rangers can easily parse in the top 10 on boss fights in Classic. as mentioned a lot it will require you quest the spell Call of Flame as it is a hefty nuke with a very short cast time. HOWEVER, rangers have no way to drop aggro so if you are doing monk levels of damage you are generating a lot of hate so often monks and rogues can outparse a ranger because they have aggro management mechanics that rangers do not.
EQ live forums lol. Call of Flame 1: Decrease Hitpoints by 247 Mana: 106 Casting Time: 0.5 Recast Time: 30 Recast Time: 30
One of the great reasons to play Ranger in classic is not because they DPS well on raids, but because they are really good tanks in the group setting. They hold excellent aggro and they wear banded, which is probably what the plate tanks wear too! In classic, I would take a ranger over a warrior in a group all day long. Hell, on Agnarr it was only when desperate you took a warrior... or someone you knew.
Ranger dps in classic isn't completely terrible. You'll be a dt taker if you're raiding. Like others have stated: rangers are really good group tanks. flame lick is easy agro heaven.
It really is amazing how much misinformation is dissiminated on these forums. And it’s always stated with so much conviction. And these poor players are making long term decisions off of it.
The people who think wizards are good dps in classic are the funniest. At least rangers can hit the bosses in sky for more than 0.
lol - outside of necro and druid dots in a limited capacity at lvl 50 - no class can land spells on sky bosses after island 3. like the logic though - equate an entire class's ability based 1 subset of raid content.
Most rangers are bad, they don't cast DD between auto-attack, and that makes all differences. Classic, ranger are top dps.
With Focus effects SKs with gear are easily top damage on a lot of raid bosses in classic...on Mangler this will drop a little. Rangers aren't 40%-50% of monks, it isn't that bad. Spell immune mobs obviously change things up. Like Mages can't land spells on most raid bosses up until Velious.
Not many classes get to kill their own guildies on raids though. It really is peak PVP season for the [] wizard in Classic.
Rangers are decent group tanks through Kunark at least. I've had many groups in Seb and Chardok with ranger tanks. Gear matters of course. Regarding that, we rotted a lot of ranger gear while farming Fear for other drops. There seemed to be a shortage of main toon rangers. We gave away what we could to any ranger who could get in zone in time.
