I thought people made that clear!

Yup better content thats more engaging and makes us WANT to play not repetitive tasks that we feel we HAVE to do.
Its a game not chores or work lol

Dont misunderstand the above comments. I dont mind reasonable counters.
Just answering the question with the obvious answer and pointing out mepps disconnect to the topic is all

Definitely not against it lol

Counter feats are pretty much a non-issue for me, because I've found that just playing the game tends to take care of most of them. And fetch quests have never really bothered me much.

Escort missions, though?

Yes...it's a weekly mission(and 50, not 60) but it's not tied to HAVING the mission as some bounties. The DLC will likely not fall off to EEG until about a year (WV just fell off and it's over a year, even including it should have fell off In Aug when HOL launched), so yeah...even 1 visit a week should still be doable while the ep is 'endgame'. Any time you are down there doing your dailies or working on any of the other 'count' feats (there are like 4 more that are NOT bounties), if someone is doing Giganta, throw some shots in and get credit. Heck, if you group up for your daily missions you'll likely get a counter from someone else throwing a shot, assuming you are on the Lincoln Memorial side of town. The credit radius is about 1 mini map worth...so decently far. I'd guess you will be in the DC metro area more than 50 times before the next DLC...or even during the next DLC. Personally I'm not a spammer and will get the bounties when I can get them, but even tonight as I was down there looking for collections, briefs and just taking in the scenery I think I got 4 or 5 of each bounty (even Giganta..though I did not approach her myself...but I was grouped). I wasn't going to fly past a group killing one and not throw some shots....if you are doing that you are making your own problem.

100% agree bounties are boring, but at least these don't come with the baggage that some others do....BTW...they are no longer 'skill' points...they are 'stat' points. They stopped being 'Skill' a long time ago, but I think the name officially changed back when TCs starting granting them. Same question, what kind of 'skill' does it take to open 15 TCs, or put on some emblems or styles? I'd say actually less than doing bounties, but neither take a lot.

And yeah, people have bagged on bounty counts as of late, but I think that was more in relation to WV/LLLs design. I don't remember a lot of flack over FP DD or Princes. The weekly 'kill XXX trash mobs' were more hated IMHO, so if it's a trade off, I'll take bounty missions. The feats just give you a reason to do them a bit more often than required....if that is that terrible, skip those couple of SP.

50 gigantas + 60 total other bountys its 110 isnt it ?

Its says: 6/671 SKILL POINTS

If you 100 % agree its boring why you trying to justify ?

Oh yes, when theres an escort mission i just “nope” rite outta there immediatly lol

Hes justifying (if thats even really what hes doing, i think hes simply xplaining)
Its because hes laying out how you can do it in passing and over time easily with minimal to no effort.
The “grind x ammount” is really only a grind if you actually grind it fast.

Those are 2 different weekly missions....unless you only run one of those a week, it would be 60 max(I see where you got your 60 number now)...they'd run parallel. And, if you want to look at it a bad as it possibly could be, you COULD kill 50 of the source infused creatures instead of Giganta (either count for that mission)...would that make the the feat now 'impossible' in your eyes as you'd never have a reason to kill Giganta even one time....much less 50? I'd guess if you are in a group working on Giganta...and someone else is killing the creatures where you get credit, as soon as your counter hits 50 and the mission is closed...you will vacate the area and cash out, right? I mean, why stay and kill Giganta? The mission is over....maybe next week.

And yeah, MMOs have boring things in them...it's par for the course... but there are different levels of boring. I'll take boring and quick/easy over boring and slow/difficult any day. You act like bounties are the only or MOST boring thing in the game. Running the dailies every day isn't 'boring' to you? And I'd guess you'll knock out the winter feats by running that exciting Larfleeze mission and knocking out the vault/xmas trees, right? Those seem similar to last year, or the year before that...yet I doubt you'll avoid those every day. Unless you buy the coins....talk about boring.

I guess it comes down to 'The devil you know....'. 20 (or 50) bounty counts on quick spawning, quick dying bounties is not nearly as bad as some other replacement ideas....like 'World Bosses', 'kill XXX adds', or something like iceberg lounge with the mile long cut scenes and the bar busywork.

EDIT: Not sure why it fell off your post, but in QuantumAbyss's quote I can see your 'It Says' part about how it says 'skill points'. I took a look. And yes... in the 'Traits' menu, under 'STAT POINTS', where 'stat points is mentioned like 4 more times inside...it does indeed say 'skill points with your numbers'. I'd guess that was an oversight on their point since that part was always there but the structure and wording on all the entires were updated more recently(a few years ago)...I'll submit a ticket.

So yea you agree its boring and you trying to justify becouse of what ? Mepps gona give you medal for it ? Trying to figiure out why ?
MMO are boring only if you got devs who doing boring MMO's i thought we can change some nasty things in this game and i thought this forum its all about it but that was long time ago well im gona keep trying even if i meet people like you on my way .

Not trying to get a medal, but yeah...I'll compliment the devs. We said we hated the count missions....they dumped them. We really said we hated the way the WV/LLL bounties worked...so they went back to 'normal' bounties. Maybe your crusade will get the next DLC to have none or something new or eliminate the feats associated with them.


If they are that 'nasty' don't do them...I don't see what your issue is? I'm not justifying them...just saying they don't bother me because I'll knock them out over the 3 months when I'm down there anyway without a second though or more than 2 or 3 extra minutes of work. A few extra min a day while I'm doing my exciting daily missions is not that big of an issue for me...apparently it is for you. As I said above, I got 4 or 5 counts done just being grouped tonight with 0 additional effort. Didn't even know I had gotten credit till the feat popped.

You never answered my original question. Would you have preferred 0 feats related to them...or just feel the counts are excessive...like they should be 1 (which there is a feat for that....should take you 4 weeks...or more). Follow up, instead of bounties, what would you prefer for a 'weekly' reward...open world....group...mission? Paint the hall of doom? Re-tile the Hall of Justice foyer?

And please....name the MMOs where you don't have what could be considered 'boring' repetitive tasks. Seriously...name them... I'm actually interested to see which game you can play for 365 days a year and have a new experience every day....that sounds cool and I'd sign up. Heck, I might trade my IRL life for that .... I do the same boring thing 5 days a week there...and get 0 SP for it.

It took me 3 hours to kill 50 gigantas it was pure fun now im gona puke and strat 3X 20 other bountys yep they dumped them .

I would like to have feats that requires some brain and we got many of those and 0 feats like kill/finish something 100 times .
If you ask are those feats the only one i hate anserw is no ! there are many other like sryles feats ( i got all but its lame in my opinion ) and feats whitch punish me for other player mistakes like no one dies in raid ( 90 % people who got it 1st weeks also had at least 1 hacker in groupe so its like pure hacking comercial )

If you asking me about other MMO's and stuff that you need to do everyday i guess all has it becouse whats MMO is but not many MMO's have feats that make/force you to do something over and over again whitch tripe disgust efect .(wana be top player eat all of this bountys).

There is one more thing againts feats like that just imagine you starting this game right now and you finding out how many hours you need to waste on bounty(that you hate ) and whats even worst then you figiure out every new DLC more of it coming . ALT CTRL DELETE

I'm fine with massacre bounties tied to feats so long as the count is reasonable. Not like 100 in Legion where it makes you think "who has the time?". 20 or 30, max 50 is fine so long as it actually gives you enough feat point. I mean, you put in a lot of that time and you only get 2XP bars for 50?

Personally, I wish the feats were more worth it. Can there be feats that give you a whole point instead of like 10xp or 25xp? Some of these take so much time and you don't feel compensated enough for them lol

so 100 is not ok but 1 X 50 + 3 X 20 is ok that make sense next DLC 20 X 10 will be fine as well ?

the worst offender would have to be all those legendary character counters my god those things just keep going and going ill never get them all

If each 20 gives me 2 stars worth of it, I'm fine with that. Compared to 50 and it's only 2 stars worth. The point is, it's doable. 50 is stretching it. Another point is: Some of us in and out of this forum are fine spamming OW bosses so long as it's in a reasonable count. The current DLC does 20 three times and 25 one time and you get the complete feat. THAT'S fine. Compensation and how doable it is, is key.

So you took it upon yourself to knock out all the bounties night 1....and it's the Dev's fault? Yeah....that's one way to look at it.

So you don't want 'count' feats, style feats, 'no death' feats (and I'm guessing 'speed' feats or RNG checklist feats...they also require no brainwork). So you figure the only good feats are things like what? '4 corners' in AnB, 'Finite Possibilities' in Nexus, or 'Perfect Grades' in Fatal Exams? While I agree those are good feats, I doubt that would give us a lot to work on for a DLC's 'life'...I suppose that's good and bad. Personally, if there were no feats attached to these bounties, I'd be fine with that...however I'll be getting them over the next month or 2...as I do dailies...so they also don't bother me. I was on for about 4 hours last night and ran several toons through the dailies, duo and alert as well as picked up the briefs and finished the 2 OW collections. I gave more thought to the bounties here than I did in game and STILL picked a few up on each toon with 0.0 added effort. I'm not silly enough to knock out 50 Gigantas in one sitting, only to revisit her a few dozen more times in the next 3-4 months...then complain about 'having' to do it.

As far as the new player, yes...catch-up sucks. If I'm a new player and get to the point where I care about SP and see these bounty feats....and I see 16 Ravens which will require 16 weekly visits to that area, 100 WV bounties that will require a minimum of 50 hours (assuming 0 failures) over multiple days/weeks, 75 legion bounties that will require 38 and the same, and 50 Gigantas that will require 3 hours and 1 visit if I wanted.....I'd figure that was an improvement. I'm not going to be happy about it (especially as the clamp makes soloing the old ones more of a chore or impossible)...but one is definitely better than the others. Yeah, I might still delete the game, but it won't be over Giganta any more than it would be over any other feat...bounty or otherwise. I'd also guess that if I join many other MMOs I'd have SOME grind in front of me as well....you didn't mention which one didn't have the grind for me to try out.

Well, that's enough for me on the subject. From your first line in this post "It took me 3 hours to kill 50 Gigantas", I can see that logic will not prevail...so I'll leave you to stew in your own anger. I'll be peacefully picking one or 2 off every visit to Washington, no more aggravated than if I wasn't doing them at all.

PS....I hate to tell you but between Grodd and Cheetah, there is another giant circle with no one in it. I'd guess in a few months someone else is showing up...that will also have a count feat. Sorry, so be the bearer of bad news.

Even with the good Mark payouts you can get from the Home Turf dailies, I haven't ventured back into that content mainly because of that !@#$ escort mission at Ace Chemicals on the hero side. LOL

Well... to be honest, counter feats are pretty much the only reason why people would return to content really. (Save a few style feats.)
With the introduction of replays, there isn't the gear grind anymore on new content. So counter feats are probably the most engaging element they could add.

Are they fun? Heck no! I'd rather have my teeth pulled, but I'll do them. (Still got a lot of T5 bounties to get still.)

That’s basically my take on it too. I’m not arguing they’re fun by any means lol. But they serve a purpose lol