Raid weekly and its rewards

Discussion in 'Quests and Seasonal Events' started by Coriel, Jan 4, 2021.

  1. Coriel Active Member

    When raid weeklies first started having wearable gear rewards, we were excited and pleased. The gear my raid force received from completing weeklies justified it to invest time on doing weekly updates (as opposed to spending 100% of the time on progression work).
    At the start of an expansion the gear from the raid weekly is a huge boost, lateron it will become "useless", as you eventually only get duplicates or downgrades, which are going to going to alts, IoR or are transmuted.

    This expansion is different. There's an imbalance between the quality of gear you can obtain solo (from questing and PQs) and the quality of gear you get from finishing a raid weekly quest. Many items on the raid weekly loot table are simply not upgrades. Let me give you a few specific examples:
    • T1 weapons? PQ ones have the same resolve and are infusable.
    • T1 cloak? The PQ cloak has the same stat types, more resolve and is infusable.
    • T2 charms? The solo quested charm has the same resolve and stats. The second solo quested charm available has the same resolve.
    On top of that, if you guild was farming firebrand pearls last expansion, you have a better chestpiece and weapons available than the raid weekly can drop for you.
    Results: The raid weekly lost it's gear boost effect at expansion release. In 3 out of 4 times, on average, a player will be disappointed by the reward they get. And this, the disappointment, is an effect that should be avoided.
    I can think of a few different solution scenarios for the situation I described, that all have one thing in common: solo gear being better than raid gear is cool, but it should be a rare exception, and not the rule.
    Coriel, Jan 4, 2021
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  2. Beee Well-Known Member

    The bug (which hopefully is fixed next patch) for not getting plings on a kill is worse:
    If one player in the raid has allready finished the weeky random other players get no kill pling.

    And YES, I got 2 charms and 2 1H weapons too. This is really a little bit frustrating. We will get other random loot soon™
    Beee, Jan 4, 2021
    #2 Last edited by Beee, Jan 4, 2021

  3. Tanto Done, finished, gone.

    I got mega lucky this week, a cloak and a 2h weapon, woo hoo..

    Step 1: Make the resolve requirements so people have to gear up from the PQ's.

    Step 2: Put rewards in the raid weekly inferior to the PQ rewards.

    Step 3: Get upset when people complain that itemisation is terrible.
    Tanto, Jan 4, 2021
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  4. Clintsat Well-Known Member

    That's why I think the raid weekly quests need to end and an equiv. amount of loot added to raid names (about 4-5 more pieces a kill).
    Clintsat, Jan 4, 2021
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  5. Tanto Done, finished, gone.

    I'd be happy with that. Plus, gotta say I like the Raidventure idea, and getting quest rewards in raids. I'd be very happy to see more of this sort of content.
    Tanto, Jan 4, 2021
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  6. Beee Well-Known Member

    Beee, Jan 10, 2021
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  7. Lemilla Active Member

    For those who have:
    1. Completed the solo signature line (secondary)
    2. Completed the solo dropped and PoI quests (charm)
    3. Got items from the summer ethereal event (waist, 2 of ear/ring/wrist)
    4. Done some PQ's (primary, shoulders, ranged, cloak, wrist, neck)
    a lot of the T1 and T2 raid weekly rewards are indeed not an upgrade.
    Some of them are nice for those with less luck on the PQ drops though, and T3 to T5 rewards should be more valuable.

    T1 raid weekly rewards:
    Primary \aITEM 756774040 -602445855:Mosaic Bloodletter Piercer\/a
    Primary \aITEM 284421856 1858437137:Mosaic Firestarter Smasher\/a
    Primary \aITEM 1816135494 -1351634267:Mosaic Skywarder Cutter\/a
    Two-Handed \aITEM -1164556215 -2102531605:Mosaic Bloodletter Cleaver\/a
    Two-Handed \aITEM 433900640 1861983699:Mosaic Firestarter Crusher\/a
    Two-Handed \aITEM 1057419686 1765513156:Mosaic Skywarder Longspear\/a
    Secondary \aITEM -1909859728 -1673454561:Mosaic Skywarder Hoplon\/a
    Secondary \aITEM 12433385 -785160238:Mosaic Skywarder Idol\/a
    Secondary \aITEM -1073064831 -191679810:Mosaic Skywarder Kiteshield\/a
    Crossbow \aITEM 1968320377 -1378280095:Mosaic Skywarder Crossbow\/a
    Ranged \aITEM -511016351 354112497:Mosaic Firestarter Bow\/a
    Ranged \aITEM 1087872004 -1774361676:Mosaic Skywarder Star\/a
    Wand \aITEM -186114164 1218364080:Mosaic Bloodletter Baton\/a
    Chest
    \aITEM 567561295 205129696:Mosaic Skywarder Greatplate\/a
    \aITEM -588161740 -1373522559:Mosaic Skywarder Hauberk\/a
    \aITEM 141145298 1646648381:Mosaic Skywarder Jerkin\/a
    \aITEM 1169815758 -1777557948:Mosaic Skywarder Robe\/a
    Shoulders
    \aITEM -869714135 430237501:Mosaic Firestarter Armguards\/a
    \aITEM 1779596233 1810545624:Mosaic Firestarter Mantle\/a
    \aITEM -1826520810 -1612694713:Mosaic Firestarter Pauldrons\/a
    \aITEM 1889906263 -1180858502:Mosaic Firestarter Shroud\/a
    Forearms
    \aITEM -1918745155 -965593327:Mosaic Bloodletter Armguards\/a
    \aITEM 1955708770 452303812:Mosaic Bloodletter Vambraces\/a
    \aITEM -1760194525 778782422:Mosaic Bloodletter Bracers\/a
    \aITEM 731449693 488035044:Mosaic Bloodletter Sleeves\/a
    Legs
    \aITEM 1711546046 952617370:Mosaic Skywarder Leather Pants\/a
    \aITEM 37034951 1999302784:Mosaic Skywarder Legplates\/a
    \aITEM 1172118237 -1853454859:Mosaic Skywarder Linked Leggings\/a
    \aITEM 69819102 -161757781:Mosaic Skywarder Woven Leggings\/a
    Cloak \aITEM 601550524 214168423:Mosaic Skywarder Cape\/a
    Neck \aITEM 1632149432 1508677587:Mosaic Firestarter Chain\/a
    Waist \aITEM -5392081 -2085042565:Mosaic Radiating Wrap\/a
    Finger \aITEM -966779453 389651275:Mosaic Skywarder Band\/a
    Charm \aITEM 1688604638 1715419043:Mosaic Firestarter Prism\/a


    T2 raid weekly rewards:
    Primary \aITEM -53550153 -2129572452: Phasic Bloodletter Smasher\/a
    Primary \aITEM 1166012406 238008263: Phasic Skywarder Knuckles\/a
    Primary \aITEM 1853447905 1487193529: Phasic Skywarder Piercer\/a
    Two-Handed \aITEM 1836369937 884716889: Phasic Bloodletter Cleaver\/a
    Two-Handed \aITEM 115787509 -1282756940: Phasic Skywarder Crusher\/a
    Secondary \aITEM -2031551828 -1376683450: Phasic Firestarter Idol\/a
    Secondary \aITEM 160370995 -430677430: Phasic Skywarder Hoplon\/a
    Secondary \aITEM 496798980 -783616446: Phasic Skywarder Kiteshield\/a
    Crossbow \aITEM 43800654 729469802: Phasic Firestarter Crossbow\/a
    Ranged \aITEM 1008491492 1782558330: Phasic Firestarter Bow\/a
    Ranged \aITEM -114538516 -657632264: Phasic Skywarder Star\/a
    Wand \aITEM 1867338723 1407546037: Phasic Bloodletter Baton\/a
    Head
    \aITEM 439877981 1424888180: Phasic Bloodletter Cap\/a
    \aITEM -2076114695 1651710795: Phasic Bloodletter Coif\/a
    \aITEM 513466107 -1893211978: Phasic Bloodletter Greathelm\/a
    \aITEM -642755746 -839458777: Phasic Bloodletter Helmet\/a
    Forearms
    \aITEM 1187676795 -1383431986: Phasic Firestarter Armguards\/a
    \aITEM 794953765 -1044411557: Phasic Firestarter Bracers\/a
    \aITEM -1043266082 -222158999: Phasic Firestarter Sleeves\/a
    \aITEM -856739097 1896688667:phasic Firestarter Vambraces\/a
    Legs
    \aITEM -1990809505 -729793743: Phasic Skywarder Leather Pants\/a
    \aITEM -1403155882 -1052988366: Phasic Skywarder Legplates\/a
    \aITEM -340423860 -1882808416: Phasic Skywarder Linked Leggings\/a
    \aITEM -1438528689 -1212942279: Phasic Skywarder Woven Leggings\/a
    Cloak \aITEM -227336885 1879174899: Phasic Firestarter Cape\/a
    Ear \aITEM -836040036 814029860: Phasic Firestarter Stud\/a
    Charm \aITEM -1322845645 1625912034: Phasic Bloodletter Prism\/a
    Lemilla, Jan 11, 2021
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  8. Beee Well-Known Member

    Please call them Tier10, 11 and 12 (like the reward chest boxes are called)

    Within my 10th weekly I got still ZERO items usefull to wear. The EQ2 random generator hates me.
    This week again a 240 + a 245 useless onehand weapon

    BTW: After clearing the first 2 zones, the weekly quest did NOT update to Tier12

    Edit: I got 250er gloves some weeks ago.. I guess this was my jackpot out of the loot table
    Beee, Jan 21, 2021
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  9. Thrundaloo Member

    When the expansion came out i put a lot of time into getting raid ready. I did an insane amount of PQ's to get the nice items.

    I've now completed 4-5 raid weeklies (2x raids per week) and only had one item I can use a cloak - which I think added maybe 5 resolve. I've not won any items yet from dkp (so it's not like I'm not using stuff because I bid and won other stuff)

    I've gone from being 100 resolve ahead, to 100 behind others in my raid force. I'm 110 resolve behind what's needed for the 2nd boss. I'm starting to dread handing in that raid weekly quest. I feel in a few weeks as a DPS i'm just going to be useless as the guild moves on to higher content.

    It's very disheartening.
    Thrundaloo, Jan 22, 2021
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  10. Kaldrun Member

    the weekly reward is basically a formality left over from last expac and was replaced by the pq reward. the pq was meant to give the best items to keep you coming back over and over to get them. They know your going to continue to raid no matter what the weekly reward is anyway. Raid weeklies don't actively encourage droves to do them whereas PQ's include everyone and not just raiders....not saying this is right...just stating the facts
    Kaldrun, Jan 22, 2021
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  11. Tanto Done, finished, gone.

    Last week we cleared both Echo and Shadeweaver, with Khati Sha the final kill. On hand in we got T11 reward, not T12, so it's still not working correctly. Or perhaps Khati Sha is the problem /shrug.
    Tanto, Jan 22, 2021
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  12. Beee Well-Known Member

    Tier 13 raidweeky chests are really strange for me:
    3x same chestpattern (useless)
    2x same charm (useless)

    hope there is more in the box within the next weeks ;)
    Beee, Apr 16, 2021
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