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[18:22] <Beimeith> I saved them for you
[18:22] <Toxicboom> spell version of ice block is ok we have too many spell gems anyway
[18:22] <Beimeith> I asked for an AA Dispel, not just for wizards bit all casters
[18:23] <Beimeith> and Xeonje asked if Wizards could get an AA like the Druid Nature's Fury Effect spell ID 27563 as a new AA for wizards, called "Arcane Fury"
[18:23] <Beimeith> those 4 were the unanswered ones
[18:24] <Beimeith> er
[18:24] <Beimeith> not remove the fade
[18:24] <Beimeith> remove the shadowstep from the fade
[18:24] <Beimeith> removing the fade from the fade would be bad bad bad
[18:25] <Scornfire> was about to say, haha
[18:25] <@Elidroth> Ice Block - Maybe, Remove Shadowstep from A Hole in Space - Why?, AA dispel? Um.. not sure, Arcane Fury - No
[18:25] <Beimeith> People don't like the shadowstep because it can put you somewhere nasty
[18:25] <Beimeith> like inside lava
[18:25] <melliflower> Bards asked for the same yesterday with Prankster
[18:25] <@Elidroth> hehehehehe
[18:26] <Naugrin> on iceblock if you DO make it aa, can you take the range up a bit to offset the loss of focus?
[18:26] <@Elidroth> Prankster cannot be changed
[18:26] <Pirlo> lol Ebil!
[18:26] <melliflower> yeah, i know, coded
[18:26] <Beimeith> If bard, shadowstep anyway!
[18:26] <melliflower> =)
[18:26] <@Elidroth> I guess I could remove the shadowstep
[18:26] <Xeo> cool
[18:27] <Xeo> Elidroth do you have any ideas for wizard AA's?
[18:27] <Naugrin> say make it like 250 or 270 range
[18:27] <Staph-PC> test?
[18:27] <Aegrus> we can hear you staph
[18:27] <Naugrin> you are here, welcome
[18:28] <@Elidroth> I have a few
[18:28] <@Elidroth> but what I want kind of hinges on getting code
[18:28] <@Elidroth> so I don't want to talk about them unless I can do them
[18:28] <Xeo> Could you give us an idea on what they are?
[18:28] <Voodoman> eye of zomm that summons more eyes of zomm - y/n
[18:28] <Jehmal> Someone mentioned a rank AA for necros that might transfer aggro to their target, something that could do 5, 10, 15 etc percent of the necros incoming aggro to the tank (like rogue misdirection)
[18:28] <@Elidroth> 10<@Elidroth> 01so I don't want to talk about them unless I can do them01
[18:28] <@Elidroth> That wasn't a joke
[18:29] <Xeo> hehe saw that the same time i hit enter ;p
[18:29] <Pirlo> Ok Elidroth, I have a list of Wizard AA ideas and requests not mentioned previously. I will post them and give you time to reply , then post again to help not spam you.
[18:29] <Beimeith> Xeo lives in Euro-land, he's a little slow
[18:29] <Beimeith> We try not to hold it against him
[18:29] <Reht> i hear that country is nice this time of year
[18:29] <Xeo> piss off B
[18:29] <Pirlo> **Existing Wizard AA** -Pryomancy- This AA has a chance to proc a 11k dot on the mob. It generating like 25% hate aggro every tick. Would you consider adding a hate override to it?
[18:30] <Toxicboom> ^^
[18:30] <Corvis> just drawing attention to forcallen's request. thank you
[18:30] <Beimeith> The aggro from it is pretty bad now
[18:30] <@Elidroth> Jehrmal - Something like that can be done. We're actually (hopefully) getting some new spell effects that could make this even cleaner going forward too
[18:30] <@Elidroth> I'd like to hold off on that until I'm sure we can do it
[18:30] <Zilten> what about snare idea from above Elidroth?
[18:31] <Zilten> necro snare that is
[18:31] <Voodoman> don't rush him!
[18:31] <Beimeith> He just ate, all the blood is in his stomach, gotta give him time
[18:31] <@Elidroth> I didn't see a Necro Snare
[18:31] <Zilten> thought he might have missed it!
[18:31] <Zilten> see he did!
[18:31] <Forcallen> NECRO - Extended Darkness, increase the duration of encroaching darkness, AA snare.
[18:31] <@Elidroth> ah that
[18:32] <@Elidroth> I can probably do that
[18:32] <Aegrus> thanks eli, we love you
[18:33] <Toxicboom> aa to increase the time of atol's too ?
[18:33] <Loratex> i wouldnt go that far... id say hes at likeable status though
[18:33] <barallronBB> kindly?
[18:33] <@Elidroth> Pyromancy - I'll look at overriding the hate some
[18:34] <Pirlo> Thank you. /cheers
[18:34] <Pirlo> **Existing Wizard AA** -Destructive Fury- Would you consider 1 more rank of this crit increasing AA?
[18:34] <@Elidroth> no
[18:34] <Pirlo> Ok
[18:34] <Pirlo> **New Wizard AA* -Similar to passive abilities such as Gift of Mana and Twincast, would you consider a passive ability to proc a negative hate amount on each spell we cast?

[18:35] <@Elidroth> no.. I've said this before.. I think we need to have code take a look at hate generation
[18:35] <melliflower> (Necromancer) : 3 additional ranks to Fortify Companion, Spell Casting Mastery and Spell casting Fury to come current with RoF..and if possible, 3 ranks to Silent casting.
[18:35] <Forcallen> NECRO - Weight of the Afterlife, run 6 or 7 or 8.
[18:35] <@Elidroth> I don't want to keep loading up more and more bandaids for something that might need fixing within code
[18:36] <Pirlo> Ok thank you for reply. ....waiting for necro questions to be read, then moving on to next on list
[18:36] <hebejebe> pirlo did you have a necro question?
[18:36] <@Elidroth> Already told you Silent Casting was done
[18:36] <hebejebe> i didnt see a necro aa question
[18:36] <Jehmal> *necro* What about an AA ability that allows the necro to summon someone by killing them. IE summon corpse/CoH in one but with a death involved. Think "splinching'. IE a window comes up, NecroA wants to cast Splinch on you (yes or no) you take a death, your corpse appears at the necros feet. Must then be rezzed of course.
[18:37] <Beimeith> Did you mean Extended Silent casting melliflower?
[18:37] <melliflower> Yes
[18:37] <melliflower> the additional ticks
[18:37] <Pirlo> no hebe, but necro questions were asked, holding off on my wizard questions as respect to necros so Eli can reply to them
[18:37] <Loratex> too many necros speaking
[18:41] <Jehmal> .
06[18:41] * Staph-PC slaps Jehmal around a bit with a large trout
06[18:41] * Beimeith pokes Elidroth
[18:41] <Aiyee> bacon coma
[18:42] <@Elidroth> Fortify Companion - Maybe, Spell Casting Mastery - No. Your mana situation does NOT need any help, Spell Casting Fury - I doubt it.
[18:42] <Beimeith> Taking bets, Heartattack, food coma, or a bathroom run
[18:42] <Beimeith> damn it
[18:42] <Pirlo> lol
[18:42] <@Elidroth> Forcallen - No. Run speed doesn't need any change
[18:42] <Toxicboom> blame it on the oreo's
[18:42] <melliflower> ty Eli
[18:42] <@Elidroth> Jehman - No. That's just not a good idea
[18:43] <Scornfire> Is there any chance we could get an Innate AA line to increase the proc rate of the Blood line spells to something around 35%?
[18:43] <@Elidroth> what spells?
01[18:43] <Xnao> impel for blood
01[18:43] <Xnao> maybe provocation for blood
[18:43] <Scornfire> The necro nukes that proc chaotic power
01[18:44] <Xnao> boosting those via aa would make them more desirable over stacking more dots
[18:44] <hebejebe> agree with xnao on this
[18:44] <Zilten> or instead of proc rate, up the hit counters either one
[18:44] <Scornfire> I've noticed alot of necro's have gone away from using that nuke, which is a real shame considering how much of a boost it is *When* it procs, however, I've gone entire events myself without getting it to proc
[18:44] <@Elidroth> http://loudwire.com/christopher-lee-heavy-metal-classic-christmas-songs/
[18:44] <@Elidroth> wow.
01[18:44] <Xnao> or reuse, or cast time, anything
[18:44] <@Elidroth> that's not fake
[18:45] <Pirlo> Elidroth does "Elidroth says Silent Casting is done" cover this portion of a request? **Existing Wizard AA** -Silent Casting- Would you consider extending the duration of this AA?
[18:45] <melliflower> slow down guys
[18:45] <Corvis> Necros who are not in our channel, PM me please and don't post. we are trying to keep this organized.
[18:45] <Axxius> he said no to necros on that, might as well not ask twice
[18:46] <irctc321> adf
[18:46] <@Elidroth> Scornfire - I don't think so
[18:48] <Pirlo> Mellifluer, is there an outstanding question youe class is waiting a response for? I dont want to interfere by overloading chat
[18:49] <Forcallen> was waiting on you guys, saw your SC ?
[18:49] <melliflower> no
[18:49] <melliflower> Floor is yours
[18:49] <Loratex> wiz up
[18:49] <Pirlo> Thank you, I got 11 more on the list, but will gladly alternate (typing now)
[18:49] <Forcallen> way to much necro and wiz getting along here
[18:49] <Pirlo> **New Wizard AA** Our Force of Will line is very popular. Would you consider creating a similar AA, on a differnt timer and resist check, for lesser damage? Then you can scale it for future expansions.
01[18:50] <Xnao> someone pretend to be fuvi
[18:50] <Xin> you?
[18:51] <Loratex> you're not the only one pirlo =)
[18:51] <@Elidroth> there's no reason to alternate.. just speak up
[18:51] <@Elidroth> I'll get to everything
[18:51] <Beimeith> Pirlo asked for a second Force of Will, but Fire and or Cold version instead of magic resist
[18:51] <Loratex> boggle...
[18:52] <Forcallen> we have lots didnt want them drowned out or push theres out
[18:52] <Voodoman> release the kraken
[18:52] <melliflower> LOL
[18:52] <@Elidroth> Just let me answer them.. don't flood me with a barrage of crap
[18:52] <Aegrus> but a barrage of crap is all i have to offer!
[18:53] <Beimeith> And on that note, I would like to add a request for Force of Will to get an extra 20 distance? This would make it 270 which is the max range on our other spells. Currently if we are max range we cant use Force of Will
[18:53] <@Elidroth> I don't really want to keep bypassing the spell side of the house
[18:53] <Forcallen> NECRO - Gift of Deathly Resolve, extending the duration and hastened reuse.
[18:53] <Cinexa> +
[18:53] <melliflower> ***Necromancer New AA*** : Devour Thoughts : Group Mind Wrack, scaled starting at 90 , 250 mana returned a tick, 7 ticks.. Reuse 90s... 350 @ 95... 450 @ 100
[18:53] <@Elidroth> so I don't think I want to do a Force of Fire/Cold at this time
[18:54] <@Elidroth> I'll talk with Aristo about it though.. if he feels like that's not creating a problem then I'll think about it
[18:54] <Beimeith> I think we can live with that
[18:54] <@Elidroth> no Melli.. your mana situation is NOT a concern
[18:54] <Pirlo> Ok thank you for the reply
[18:55] <Xin> He said "group" mind wrack though =p
[18:55] <@Elidroth> different spells/abilities have different ranges. I'm not inclined to want to go and try to make everything the same
[18:56] <melliflower> Mind Wrack ( Devour Thoughts idea ) is a mana drain from mob to group,
[18:56] <Arkeal> Eli you think you could look at our ward of destruction and buff it up to worth being used?
[18:56] <@Elidroth> no Arkeal. It's free damage. It's ALWAYS worth being used.
[18:56] <@Elidroth> It costs NOTHING

can proc a nuke when you nuke......was wondering if there was a way to make wizards gain more damage from them
01[19:24] <Xnao> most of us love the line
[19:24] <Corvis> ^
[19:24] <@Elidroth> cna't.. the proc cannot be focused
[19:24] <@Elidroth> can't even
[19:24] <Axxius> WIZARD: AA similar to necro Embalmers Carapace? Arcane Destruction: requires all ranks of Prolonged Destruction, includes PD + 1 mil rune
[19:24] <melliflower> Repost
[19:24] <melliflower> <melliflower> *** Necromancer New **** : Ritual of Becoming : Impart a Mid Level Lich type buff upon a fellow group member ... Spell of comparison : Arch Lich : necromancer level 60 Mana regen
[19:25] <MintaRose> I love lingering death solo and group, heck even if there's JUST necros in raid it was fine, but other people need to use those mob debuff slots too
[19:25] <Loratex> no they dont minta
[19:26] <Voodoman> who cares
[19:26] <Voodoman> none of this is related to new AAs
[19:26] <Voodoman> shut up
[19:26] <Loratex> NECRO - Speed of the Shade reduces the time required to mem a spell to the spell bar, like Scribbled Notes does for bard songs.
[19:28] <@Elidroth> Axxius - that could work.
[19:28] <Axxius> ty
[19:28] <Toxicboom> !
[19:28] <Loratex> i thought we werent allowed to compare classes =(\
[19:28] <Forcallen> isnt Prolonged a 5 minute buff?
[19:28] <@Elidroth> I think I might reduce the number of counters on it over PD but it's not a terrible idea
[19:29] <Beimeith> Prolonged is long duration Forcallen, but it is proc limited
[19:29] <@Elidroth> It's 3 minutes, but there is a limit use counter on it
[19:29] <Forcallen> just saying adding our rune to it might make pd drop sooner for you
[19:29] <Beimeith> Yeah, that worries me
[19:29] <@Elidroth> Loratex - there is nothing wrong with liking an idea another class has.. but saying you deserve something BECAUSE another class has it doesn't work for me
[19:30] <Forcallen> we already lose the rune very fast now and wanted it to be scaled up but that was a no
[19:30] <Voodoman> like embalmer's carapace? ;p
[19:30] <Beimeith> And if there are less counters, that sounds even riskier to be honest
[19:30] <Loratex> lol i was joking =)
[19:30] <Axxius> and it has a mana cost penalty too
[19:30] <Axxius> (which does matter for wizards unlike necros
01[19:31] <Xnao> uh
01[19:31] <Xnao> axxius has no clue what he is saying
[19:31] <Beimeith> Necros need mana too
[19:31] <Pirlo> **Existing Wizard AA** -Fury of Ro, Fury of Kerafym- This is a very popular AA line Eli, Is there any wiggle room to increase the damage bonus it gives? Currently 100 per rank.
[19:32] <Beimeith> lets not fight ;p
[19:32] <@Elidroth> Hmm..
[19:32] <@Elidroth> this is funny
[19:32] <@Elidroth> I can't see that Scribble Notes actually does anything at all
[19:32] <Naugrin> why does that phrase scare me?
[19:33] <Mykaylla> Ahh, bards
[19:33] <Loratex> poor bards =(
[19:33] <Loratex> can we get it any way?
[19:33] <Mykaylla> Is there nothing they can't mix up?
[19:33] <Polleiden> lol
[19:33] <@Elidroth> Fury of Kerafyrm adds 1100 dmg
[19:33] <Loratex> and make ours work
[19:33] <Jerus> it's like a luclin/pop AA, it does make it faster iirc but might be old weird eq stuff, just a fyi =)
[19:33] <Aiyee> well, get the version that works heh
[19:33] <hebejebe> polle get in necro channel
[19:34] <Beimeith> I think he meant, the new ranks were 100 damage each
[19:34] <Beimeith> And he would like more than that if you would be willing
[19:34] <melliflower> Ok Elidroth, here comes a oldie but goodie
[19:34] <melliflower> Necromancer : Skeletal Steed
[19:35] <Pirlo> Yes Sir, new ranks of that AA add 100 each. Any wiggle room for 200 each? 300 each if you are feeling ok with it
[19:36] <@Elidroth> maybe
[19:36] <@Elidroth> Melli - you're not getting an AA horse
[19:36] <Pirlo> Thank you for considering it /cheers
[19:36] <melliflower> lol I know Eli
[19:36] <Loratex> NECRO - Cascade of Bertox, AA line that adds a set amount of spell damage per tic to dots similar to what bard 2nd spire or slot 3 augs do.
[19:36] <melliflower> i had to stay true to form
[19:36] <melliflower> year after year lol
[19:37] <Pirlo> **Existing Wizard AA** -Dimensional Shield- This AA procs a shadowstep and hate reducer on a mob that hits us, 5 counters. Would you consider increasing its duration and/or level of hate it reduces on impact and/or adding a damage mitigation to it?
[19:38] <@Elidroth> Loratex - that's doable
[19:38] <Loratex> <3
[19:38] <Loratex> you are
[19:38] <Pirlo> lol
[19:38] <Loratex> at kindly now
[19:38] <@Elidroth> I'm not trying very hard then.. I'm usually dubious at best
[19:38] <Beimeith> Should be noted that dimensional shield is shared AA, this would help more than just wizards
[19:39] <Beimeith> i think all silk classes have it
[19:39] <melliflower> no
[19:39] <Zilten> necros dont for sure
[19:39] <MintaRose> I sure don't and I'm a necro, we shadowstep ourselves like monks and SKs do instead
[19:40] <@Elidroth> I'll look at an upgrade
[19:40] <Pirlo> Thank you for considering it /cheers
[19:40] <Toxicboom> FD > dimensional
[19:40] <Pirlo> Repost from earlier in case I missed yes/no/maybe
[19:40] <Pirlo> **New Wizard AA** In Beta, our AA Snare had a damage nuke tied into it as a bug. Would you consider adding a snare with nuke on it?
[19:41] <Loratex> im sorry elidroth i missed if you said anything earlier about Embalmers Carapce upgrad to current ranks?
[19:41] <@Elidroth> Sure.. I'll add a nuke that always breaks snare
[19:41] <Beimeith> nukes don't break snare?
[19:41] <Jerus> nukes don't break snares, only roots
[19:41] <Zilten> what they said
[19:41] <Loratex> why would we want to break snare
[19:41] <Loratex> ...
[19:41] <@Elidroth> They do if I doom it to do so
[19:41] <@Elidroth> lol
[19:42] <tonzofo> lol
[19:42] <Pirlo> lol ! ebil!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:42] <Scornfire> hahaha
[19:42] <@Elidroth> just to be mean
[19:42] <melliflower> you guys have no sense of sarcasm
[19:42] <Zilten> good point
[19:42] <Loratex> okay now your back to dub
[19:42] <MintaRose> ok, but if I start bein' followed around by a wizzy with a malicious smirk every time I go snare kitin', I am gonna complain
[19:42] <melliflower> lol
[19:42] <@Elidroth> I don't really see why Embalmer's needs an upgrade
[19:43] <Loratex> okay =(
[19:43] <Loratex> we do!
[19:43] <Pirlo> **New Wizard AA* -Epiphany of Magic- Similar to the cleric/necro AA, a very short duration AA that reduces cast times on all nukes by half.
[19:43] <Loratex> ...
[19:44] <@Elidroth> it can be done. the question is do I think it's a good idea
[19:44] <Forcallen> we have a sped up nuke AA?
[19:44] <Loratex> youll LOVE THIS one!!!
[19:44] <Loratex> NECRO - Necrotic Paralysis - activated cone AE that knocks back and roots targets, longer refresh then PP.
[19:44] <Forcallen> think we asked but dont have
[19:44] <@Elidroth> anything that is already quickened won't work though
[19:44] <melliflower> *Necromancer* New : Phylacraty : Necromancer consumed an Essence Emerald in return for a Divine Intervention Buff : Duration 1hr
01[19:44] <Xnao> they can ask for our stuff but we cant ask for bard stuff
[19:45] <@Elidroth> no Melli
[19:45] <Beimeith> With full raid gear and buffs, we hit 50% Elidroth, this is an AA that would help groupers, not raiders
[19:45] <Pirlo> My reference to necros was mercurial torment concept (misspelled)
[19:45] <Mykaylla> Is that meant to be Phylactery?
[19:45] <Voodoman> wasn't that already asked?
[19:45] <Loratex> aye i got what you were referring to
[19:45] <Forcallen> thrice
[19:46] <Pirlo> Thanks for considering at least Eli /cheer
[19:46] <melliflower> yes Myk
[19:46] <Naugrin> WIZARD - More ranks of fortified entanglement (if you do aa iceblock please make this aa apply to it as well)
[19:48] <Loratex> think he went to the bathroom
[19:48] <@Elidroth> who?
[19:48] <Loratex> lol you!
[19:48] <@Elidroth> nah
[19:48] <Loratex> i posted about cone ae knock back root
[19:50] <@Elidroth> I'm not sure I want to keep flooding the game with knockbacks
[19:50] <@Elidroth> lol
[19:50] <Loratex> okay

[19:50] <Loratex> NECRO - Death's Fury, more ranks to improve crit strength of pet criticals.
[19:51] <Yinnie> Hi all, Yinla fell asleep, so I better turn her machine off
[19:51] <@Elidroth> I'll think about it. I want to talk to Aristo more first
[19:51] <Beimeith> Would you be willing to add a snare component to Beam of Displacement, and also remove the 1 point of damage?
[19:51] <melliflower> **Necro** : another rank of Whisperind with a Insta Invis placed on the Necro
[19:51] <@Elidroth> Beimeith - Maybe and No
[19:52] <Beimeith> I can live with that, thanks
[19:52] <Pirlo> **New Wizard AA* -Similar to spell twincast, an AA that is twincast but with 6 counters. Recast 5 minutes. Purpose is to use it when you know you are going to be pushed or silenced and dont want to have the twincast fade
[19:52] <Loratex> NECRO - Hastened Funeral Pyre, brought down to 20 minute reuse NECRO - Funeral Pyre, improved overfocus boost (preferably at or above bard overfocus levels).
[19:52] <melliflower> ^^^^^
[19:52] <melliflower> Definetly that
[19:53] <@Elidroth> Uh.. What Pirlo?
[19:53] <Voodoman> what about when you're not pushed or silenced
[19:53] <@Elidroth> I'm not touching Funeral Pyre until it works right
[19:53] <Beimeith> A second, lesser version of Improved Twincast, on a shorter timer
[19:53] <@Elidroth> No
[19:53] <Voodoman> wait - what's wrong with it?
[19:53] <@Elidroth> it's not shortening the DOT duration
[19:53] <Corvis> Necro - AA version of the Ghoulskin rune line, or at least allow death bloom to bypass the rune
[19:53] <Voodoman> orly
[19:53] <Pirlo> Sometimes when we use spell twincast, we get pushed or interupted and it fades without being used. Its a new idea, not trying to be zerkkin. Heck make it 3 counters
[19:54] <Xin> its not??
[19:54] <@Elidroth> No Pirlo
[19:54] <Loratex> NECRO - Passive twinheal for lifetaps.
[19:54] <@Elidroth> no chance
[19:54] <Loratex> NECRO - Theft of Life more ranks.
[19:55] <Loratex> since we are the heal line =)
[19:55] <Pirlo> Okay thanks for replying. Impromptu New AA ideas are running thru my mind now, not trying to zerkking u
[19:55] <@Elidroth> I can see 3 more ranks of Theft of Life, but then that line is done
[19:55] <Cinexa> wizard Kick?
[19:55] <Loratex> awesome
[19:56] <melliflower> I have 2 in the queue, will repost ( ty Eli on ToL )
[19:56] <melliflower> **Necro** : another rank of Whisperind with a Insta Invis placed on the Necro
03[19:56] * Beimeith was kicked by Elidroth (OK.. I kicked a wizard. Now what?)
[19:56] <Zilten> Is there any chance at a line similar to theft of life eli that works on HoTs?
[19:56] <Cinexa> rotfl
[19:56] <Pirlo> lol
[19:56] <Beimeith> wow
[19:56] <Beimeith> wow
[19:56] <Loratex> haha
[19:56] <Cinexa> sorry beim
[19:56] <@Elidroth> No melliflower - No invis on Whisperwind
[19:56] <Naugrin> lol
[19:56] <melliflower> <melliflower> *** Necromancer New **** : Ritual of Becoming : Impart a Mid Level Lich type buff upon a fellow group member ... Spell of comparison : Arch Lich : necromancer level 60 Mana regen
[19:56] <Loratex> NECRO - Reluctant Benevolence, increased heal amount.
06[19:56] * MintaRose awards 10 evil points (only 90 to go for class change to necro)
[19:56] <@Elidroth> Nope
[19:56] <Tharkis> damnit elidroth, you made me choke on my cough drop laughing
[19:57] <Cinexa> he's mean! =) /wink
[19:57] <Loratex> to witch?
[19:57] <Loratex> which*
[19:57] <@Elidroth> yes
[19:57] <Loratex> ?
[19:57] <Naugrin> Elidroth, did you see the more ranks of fortified entanglement request?
[19:57] <Pirlo> Kicking a wizard has to count for at least a few more % points on our crits
[19:57] <@Elidroth> to basically anything melliflower suggests
[19:57] <Corvis> sorry for the repost, but Necro - AA version of the Ghoulskin rune line, or at least allow death bloom to bypass the rune
[19:57] <Voodoman> good call
[19:57] <melliflower> Hmmm
[19:57] <melliflower> Funny
[19:57] <melliflower> im pulling these from Necrotalk..all your ideas
[19:57] <@Elidroth> Death Blood is done, finished, finito, listo, muerto
[19:58] <melliflower> so who's the joke on now, lol
[19:58] <@Elidroth> Death Bloom that is
[19:58] <Loratex> can we make an AA called Death blood?
[19:58] <Loratex> that does something different every time?
[19:58] <Zilten> he wasnt asking about upgrading deathbloom, just if it could bypass runes
[19:58] <MintaRose> only if it can randomly proc a pile of dead rangers
[19:58] <Corvis> death bloom causes the rune to drop, making the rune spell kind of useless
[19:58] <Zilten> well specifically an AA rune
[19:58] <MintaRose> ?
[19:58] <melliflower> ok out with Necrotalk's ideas
[19:59] <melliflower> in with mine
[19:59] <Loratex> Corvis was asking for Rune AA
[19:59] <MintaRose> I thought it was an AA rune that would hold and not be consumed by deathbloom
[19:59] <@Elidroth> Now that Reluctant Benevolence is working correctly, I can upgrade it some
[19:59] <melliflower> NEcromancer ** Current AA dead mezmerization : can we raise the level on this ?
[19:59] <MintaRose> ohh
[19:59] <Voodoman> neat
[19:59] <Loratex> thanks!
[20:00] <melliflower> Corvis was asking Death Bloom to not chew through our Zombieflesh rune
[20:01] <@Elidroth> No.. it cannot bypass runes
[20:01] <Loratex> NECRO - Perfected Cloak of Shadows.
[20:01] <hebejebe> eldiroth yes please upgrade reluctant benevolence some
[20:02] <Zilten> Any chance of an AA version of the rune, even if deathbloom eats it?
[20:02] <@Elidroth> no
[20:03] <Loratex> NECRO - AA pulling tool Necrotic Grasp, like hates attraction or moving mountains on a 60-90 second recast time for run speed immune mobs.
[20:03] <Zilten> k
[20:03] <Naugrin> WIZARD - More ranks of fortified entanglement (if you do aa iceblock please make this aa apply to it as well)
[20:03] <melliflower> OP
[20:03] <melliflower> HA with necros is OP.. use PP and Effigy
[20:03] <Voodoman> did anybody ask you
[20:04] <Xin> lol
[20:04] <Loratex> i dont think so voodoman
[20:04] <melliflower> You posted it in here
[20:04] <melliflower> So I can give my suggestions
[20:04] <@Elidroth> Naugrin - I'll do 1 more rank of Fortified Entanglement
[20:04] <Naugrin> thank you
[20:04] <Pirlo> **New Wizard AA** -Plane of Knowledge Self port- Precedence is we have a Nexus self port. Just a convienence AA really
[20:05] <Xeo> instapok!
[20:05] <Visitor> Yes or no Eli on Necrotic Grasp, like Hate's Attraction?
[20:05] <@Elidroth> no
[20:05] <Beimeith> what would one more rank bring Fortified Entanglement up to if you don't mind my asking? What % that is?
[20:05] <Loratex> Necro - self only aa that gives us a Auspice like ability (can be lesser value)
[20:05] <@Elidroth> I'd rather not give out that sort of thing to everyone
[20:06] <Voodoman> we're not everyone, don't worry
[20:06] <@Elidroth> It'd be MORE Beimeith
[20:06] <Starlight> Voodoman: lol
[20:06] <Voodoman> it falls in line with shadowknights and we do pull a lot
[20:06] <Naugrin> lol
[20:06] <melliflower> turn around
[20:06] <melliflower> PP
[20:06] <Loratex> an aa that breaks disease cloud again?? =) (jk)
[20:06] <melliflower> Effigy
[20:06] <Voodoman> we share a lot of traits, FD, fades, etc
[20:07] <Voodoman> pulling
[20:07] <Voodoman> in general.
06[20:07] * MintaRose would like to see instaPoK for wizzies. it _does_ fit
[20:07] <@Elidroth> I'm not doing any new teleports right now until we wrap up some new things we're working on that haven't been announced yet
[20:07] <MintaRose> aww
[20:07] <Pirlo> Ok fair enough , thank you for replying
[20:07] <Corvis> Necro - meaningful ranks to Swarm of Decay and Rise of Bones
[20:08] <Loratex> Necro - Auspice like necro and pet shared AA?
[20:08] <@Elidroth> lol.. meaningful
[20:08] <Staph-PC> Necro- A passive AA to increase Nukes by a flat # per rank
[20:08] <Corvis>
[20:08] <Cinexa> ..
[20:08] <melliflower> here come the god mode requests
[20:08] <Cinexa> lol
[20:08] <@Elidroth> Swarm pets in general are not ever going to be 'meaningful' like some of you think they should be
[20:08] <MintaRose> not "god", more like "skellie collector and her prize herd"
[20:08] <@Elidroth> they are a visible dot.. nothing more
[20:09] <melliflower> not at you Minta
[20:10] <melliflower> i can feel the rage from the "arch lich" clan
[20:10] <Corvis> another possibility: upgrade to army of the dead that doesn't require corpses, or make the models smaller versions of the corpses
[20:10] <@Elidroth> hmm.. AA version of Auspice?
[20:10] <@Elidroth> no problem.. 30hp DOT for 9 ticks
[20:10] <@Elidroth> not sure what that'll do for you
[20:10] <Loratex> no no no
[20:10] <Loratex> wait
[20:10] <@Elidroth> done!
[20:10] <Loratex> rangers auspice thingy
[20:11] <Starlight> haha
[20:11] <Loratex> =/
[20:11] <Loratex> i guess i deserved that one
[20:11] <Pirlo> Elidroth, do you have any DPS AA ideas that you can code now that you are surprised we haven't asked for perhaps something we missed?
[20:11] <@Elidroth> not really
[20:11] <@Elidroth> I'm never really surprised by what you ask for.. lol
[20:11] <Loratex> NECRO - Hastened Harmshield more ranks.
[20:12] <@Elidroth> I'm beyond being shocked
[20:12] <Aiyee> shocked maybe, but not surprised
[20:12] <Beimeith> The general feeling is, you acknowledged earlier that you want to give Wizards dps, but we aren't really sure in what way
[20:12] <melliflower> Honestly Eli
[20:12] <Loratex> oh im sure i can come up with something!
[20:12] <Loratex> i mean
[20:12] <melliflower> to revisit something
[20:12] <Loratex> how long till we ask for a tri-cast?
[20:12] <Naugrin> been there, done that
[20:13] <melliflower> that "Extended duration" on AA Snare isint really needed. Our Spell Snare lasts 3 minutes
[20:13] <melliflower> that lasts quite long enough
[20:13] <@Elidroth> I don't really want to speed up Harmshield any more
[20:13] <Corvis> Necro - last swarm request from me: upgrade to army of the dead that doesn't require corpses, or make the models smaller versions of the corpses to make it more group/raid-friendly
[20:13] <Loratex> okay
[20:13] <@Elidroth> Corvis - I can see about making them smaller
[20:14] <Corvis> great
[20:14] <Loratex> NECRO - Mark Grave, AA line that grants us a self only secondary bind point, or have Chandrok add us to the in game item "Stone of Marking" for the same effect. Paired with the AA Return to Grave that gates us to our marked grave (from one of the suggestions above), 10 minute recast self only.
[20:14] <tonzofo> How about simply turning swarm pets into a 10k nuke
06[20:14] * MintaRose half-cheers. Yay for utility. Boo for the loss of any remaining chances to scare the unwary
[20:14] <tonzofo> 10 min reuse
[20:14] <melliflower> Roll a wizard Loratex if you want secondary bind
[20:15] <Polleiden> ok can this troll get booted already please?
[20:15] <melliflower> why because i dont agree with alot of what you all were saying in the Necro channel ?
[20:15] <Polleiden> simple utility requests that are totally in line
[20:15] <Polleiden> do not need upon
[20:15] <Zilten> Necro - AA that gives our group fearless for a short duration?
[20:16] <Polleiden> noone commented on your requests in here
[20:16] <Polleiden> so why are you?
[20:16] <melliflower> uh huh
[20:16] <Voodoman> most of this is irrelevant
[20:16] <Voodoman> shut up

[20:16] <Staph-PC> NECROMANCER New AA.. Elidroth, How about An AA like this? It has 3 stages each doom effect into each other. Starts with Stage 1 being 90seconds long and does nothing. Stage 2 gives a damage boost of a moderate amount and lasts 1 minute. Stage 3 is a bigger boost and last 30seconds.
[20:16] <MintaRose> I . . .sort of like it Zilten, but is it ours? sounds hybrid-tank-like to me, but if we could do RB, we could do that
[20:16] <Zilten> It was asked for on necrotalk, we relay the message, Elidroth decides if needed or not
[20:16] <melliflower> ^
[20:16] <Loratex> enough... back to necro talk please
[20:17] <@Elidroth> I'd prefer the fearless type things be restricted to the tanks
[20:17] <@Elidroth> it makes sense for them to inspire the group to stand their ground
[20:17] <Aiyee> heh if dotn make them fearless, make them fear US more..same effect sounds better
[20:17] <MintaRose>
[20:17] <Loratex> lol
[20:17] <Zilten> Aiyee yeah more to that effect
[20:17] <Zilten> they are more afraid of us than mob hehe
[20:17] <Aiyee> like vtell for retreat foriksar, fleee and i kill you
[20:18] <deadgnomewalkin> eli do you think there is any way to get a aa of sometype that will work with mass group buff? atm necros only have one thing that works with it dead men flooting. Not usefull on raids. anyway we can get some aa that maybe help with peoples mana regen or maybe a group lifetap aa tha can be massed so necro have a use for mass group buff agian?
[20:18] <melliflower> Necromancer *New* Self Buff that procs an encroaching darkness when struck in melee combat
[20:18] <Loratex> MGB mindewrack with endurance added =)
[20:18] <MintaRose> ooooooooooooooooo
[20:19] <Loratex> thats something EVERY ONE can enjoy =)
[20:19] <Starlight> MGB mindwrack sounds like fun
[20:19] <Loratex> right wizards?
[20:19] <Loratex> RIGHT?
[20:19] <Toxicboom> so a paragon mgb like spell for u all
[20:19] <Visitor> Beats the hell out of twitch!
[20:19] <Xeo> we're ok for mana atm thnx!
[20:20] <melliflower> ^'
[20:20] <Mykaylla> Zerkkatex
[20:20] <Loratex> h8
[20:20] <Beimeith> Elidroth, Would you be willing to do a debuff to increase incoming damage, (SPA 296) but restricted by spell group to only certain wizard spells? Spell groups for Ethereal nukes: 16500, 16534, 16550
[20:20] <Loratex> ><
[20:21] <Loratex> Elidroth - If Reluctant Benevolance is on and we Cast Gift of Death Resolve, it knocks RB off any idea why/if there can be a fix?
[20:22] <@Elidroth> I'll have to look Loratex. Not sure off the top of my head.
[20:23] <Loratex> thank you
[20:23] <@Elidroth> Beimeith - Aristo has created those Ethereals in a specific way. I'll talk to him about that idea
[20:23] <@Elidroth> They're intended to do less damage against raid targets though
[20:23] <Beimeith> No
[20:23] <Beimeith> They do more damage to raid targets
[20:23] <Beimeith> Necro Swift Dotd do less to raid targets
[20:23] <Toxicboom> ^^
[20:24] <@Elidroth> right.. I had the requirements backwards
[20:24] <Beimeith> This is why we were upset that NToV wasn't flagged as raid mobs
[20:24] <Loratex> it wasnt?!
[20:24] <Toxicboom> <3
[20:24] <Beimeith> but that is another matter
[20:24] <@Elidroth> only Vulak is
[20:24] <Loratex>
[20:24] <Pirlo> **Existing Wizard AA** -Force of Will- Would you consider adding more ranks to the recast timer on it? Currently refreshes in 12 seconds.
[20:24] <@Elidroth> no Pirlo.. 12 sec is fine
[20:24] <MintaRose> reaaaaaaaally
[20:24] <Corvis> Necro - Quickened Levant
06[20:25] * MintaRose hums a little tune that sounds like "swift dot everything and let the skellie swarm pets sort through the ashes"
[20:25] <melliflower> lol
[20:25] <@Elidroth> I suspect Aristo will go for the damage debuff idea for Ethereals.. but he'll probably want me to put it on a different class
[20:25] <@Elidroth> I like that personally too
[20:25] <@Elidroth> lol
[20:25] <@Elidroth> make you work together.. play nicely..
06[20:25] * Mykaylla makes a note for chanter chat tomorrow then...
[20:26] <Staph-PC> Elidroth I didn't see a reply for my idea above...
[20:26] <Voodoman> i can sum that chatu p
[20:26] <Voodoman> MORE DPS PLS
[20:26] <melliflower> Necromancer *New* Self Buff that procs an encroaching darkness when struck in melee combat
[20:26] <Pirlo> Cool Elidroth 8) It can be a nice boost for us and welcomed!
[20:26] <@Elidroth> I don't really understand the point of it Staph
[20:27] <Staph-PC> More Damage but less burst
[20:27] <@Elidroth> how exactly does that work?
[20:27] <Aiyee> kind of like the rune for chatners i think that can proc a mez on what drops the rune
[20:27] <@Elidroth> the damage boost over a given duration doesn't change
[20:27] <melliflower> Yes Aiy
[20:27] <@Elidroth> you still get x% over the total duration of the ability
[20:28] <melliflower> Retrevil's idea from the forums, thought it was a good one
[20:28] <Loratex> An AA that gives a small percent to reflect spell damage when Fded
[20:29] <Zilten> The 3 step idea basically takes time to ramp up, just like us, you do get x% over it but it gets larger as fight lenghtens
[20:29] <Zilten> your right could do same thing as x% for 3 minutes where x was smaller, but this way if fight ends too soon, your SoL
[20:30] <Naugrin> WIZARD - any chance of a GIANT focus to one cast (or twincast) on a long timer?
[20:30] <melliflower> problem with that Zilt, is there are very little fights where that would apply in the raid game. Mechanics seperate events into phases
[20:30] <Mykaylla> Aiyee, chanter defensive ward isn't a rune, it's a fixed duration self-buff that procs mez. However, there is an enchanter rune that procs a PBAE stun on fade.
[20:30] <melliflower> good idea, but as i mentioned in the chat, times should be adjusted
[20:30] <Zilten> then it wouldnt get used on those events
[20:30] <@Elidroth> Naugrin - yes. I was thinking of something like that anyway. Sort of a Mighty Strike for wizards
[20:30] <Zilten> yes times can be adjusted to seee fit i agree
[20:31] <Zilten> just meant the idea behind it
[20:31] <Naugrin> thank you
[20:31] <Beimeith> What SPA were you thinking to use for that Elidroth?
[20:31] <Beimeith> 124 conflicts with a lot of things
[20:31] <Corvis> Necro - Quickened Levant and additional Mirrored Pestilence rank(s)
[20:31] <ueuelil> El , if this has already been asked, forgive me... do we have any kind of window when any of this will go live? Please oh please let the answer not be 'when it's done' Patent pending some other game company that 'shall not be named'?
[20:32] <Loratex> Necro AA snare (totem/skull) trap type peferrable AE (short duration snare)
[20:32] <@Elidroth> Beimeith - I can work around it other ways
[20:32] <deadgnomewalkin> eli did you see my qusetion bout mass group buff or did it get lost in the chat stuff?
[20:32] <@Elidroth> The answer to when is "I don't have that info"
[20:32] <Beimeith> As long as it works I'm happy
[20:32] <@Elidroth> I don't set the schedule
[20:32] <ueuelil> not quite as bad as when it's ready =D
[20:33] <Xeo> Eli how much time do you have left?
[20:33] <ueuelil> no estimate even then really?
[20:33] <@Elidroth> deadgnome - I'll talk to Aristo
[20:33] <@Elidroth> Xeo - enough
[20:33] <deadgnomewalkin> thanks
[20:34] <Pirlo> **New Wizard AA** - Is there anything you can do on the AA side to beef up rain spells? Perhaps give it an extra wave? Or something cool?
[20:34] <@Elidroth> Is Levant still at 5 sec?
[20:34] <Aiyee> Necro-- new AA-- activated that makes the next detrimental spell you cast on a mob become viral and have a chance to spread to nearby mobs each tick
[20:34] <Aiyee> yes, 5 sec to levant
[20:34] <@Elidroth> I'll quicken Levant
[20:34] <Loratex> thank you
[20:34] <Zilten> Was that a no on the 3 step idea eli?(last you said is you werent sure on the reasoning
[20:35] <@Elidroth> it doesn't work Zilten
[20:35] <Zilten> ok
[20:35] <@Elidroth> the only thing that'd really do is piss of the grouper
[20:35] <ueuelil> I don't know if I saw a response to the cone root? I know that you had mentioned that you didnt like the knockback.... I would love to have something those lines for emergencys... would pay lots and lots of aa for it, even just one more way to lock a mob down on rare occasions... please consider it. I know that you must be tired and worn out after all of these chat sessions, thanks for your
[20:35] <ueuelil> patience =)
[20:35] <Beimeith> With reference to Pirlos request, would you be willing to discuss focus effects working on rains? They have been excluded for about 10 years now
[20:35] <@Elidroth> because while raid targets will be useful, groupers will generally kill something quickly enough to make that not so much fun
[20:35] <Visitor> Necromancer:: 0% xp rez like call of the wild.
[20:35] <@Elidroth> I'm not going to keep answering the same question over and over
[20:36] <@Elidroth> I said NO to the knockback root cone
[20:36] <melliflower> thank you
[20:36] <Loratex> some people are new here lol
[20:36] <Loratex> forgive us
[20:36] <@Elidroth> Aiyee - no way to add virul nature to a spell
[20:36] <Loratex> How about that AE snare trap?
[20:36] <melliflower> we have one
[20:37] <ueuelil> no no I know you had said not to the knock back, but no way to add one additional mob root, it doesnt matter howit comes ?
[20:37] <MintaRose> if you can get more than one target on that stupid thing at a time, can I pay you for lessons? I can't even get more than one at a time in _Steamfont_
[20:37] <ueuelil> or shortened recast on PP ?
[20:37] <Loratex> was asked
[20:40] <melliflower> <melliflower> Necromancer *New* Self Buff that procs an encroaching darkness when struck in melee combat
[20:40] <Naugrin> WIZARD - Hastened beam of displacement (hopefully to go with the snare component, but even if that isn't added)
[20:40] <Naugrin> ack sorry melli
[20:41] <melliflower> its ok Naug
[20:41] <Loratex> Necro - increased ranks of greater Blood tithe ? =)
[20:41] <melliflower> it is the lightning round after all =)
[20:41] <melliflower> oh look, more dps
[20:42] <melliflower> and the other one Eli was

[20:42] <melliflower> *** Necromancer New **** : Ritual of Becoming : Impart a Mid Level Lich type buff upon a fellow group member ... Spell of comparison : Arch Lich : necromancer level 60 Mana regen
[20:42] <@Elidroth> I don't really like that idea much.. I can't honestly say why either.. lol
[20:42] <Visitor> Druids asked for Destructive Affliction in their AA chat. "Destructive Affliction - 1 ranks, an activateable AA around 20min recharge and instant cast. It would be a self targetted buff, which increases our chance to have critical DoT tics + increases the damage of critical DoT tics for around 1 minutes time." Can necros get something similar? .
[20:42] <@Elidroth> I'll give it some thought
[20:42] <melliflower> lol, fair enough
[20:43] <melliflower> ty
[20:43] <Naugrin> current recast on beam of displacement is 3 minutes btw
[20:43] <@Elidroth> Naugrin - I'm ok with where Beam of Displacement is right now
[20:43] <Naugrin> kk
[20:43] <Corvis> Necro - any chance of additional mirrored pestilence right now?
[20:44] <Visitor> This was suggested. No Pain No Gain, puts a buff on the necro, while active all spells do 20-25% more damage, but while under its effect healing abilities will only have 50% of effect
[20:45] <melliflower> interesting
[20:45] <melliflower> although the name is Warrior'ish
[20:46] <@Elidroth> Visitor - not a fan of that idea
[20:47] <Aiyee> its kind of how we work when we do light pillar in alra raid
[20:47] <Loratex> you did make a raid off of it=)
[20:48] <@Elidroth> I didn't..
[20:48] <MintaRose> at least there is plenty of feedback from the idea already
[20:48] <@Elidroth> you can blame Dzarn for that nonsense
[20:48] <Loratex> i will
[20:48] <MintaRose> what 'bout Big Bynn, who do I blame for that?
[20:48] <Voodoman> i think
[20:49] <Voodoman> we need some recaps up in here
[20:49] <@Elidroth> Big Bynn? Nodyin
[20:49] <Pirlo> Speaking of raids, Elidroth next time you creates raids, can you add in dead bodies of Devs and scary emotes from Raid Bosses ? (like Tacvi) It gives the zone a creepy feeling and adds fright to encounters
[20:50] <Loratex> lololol
[20:50] <@Elidroth> we wanted to do a raid where you fought us, but management didn't like the idea
[20:50] <melliflower> Eli : any plans to look at dire charm for upgrade ?
[20:50] <@Elidroth> no
[20:50] <MintaRose> spoilsports!
[20:50] <Pirlo> hehe
[20:50] <@Elidroth> I may do it anyway.. just sneak it in
[20:50] <Beimeith> that sounds like an awesome raid imo
[20:50] <melliflower> a raid.. players vs devs.. now that would have been fun
06[20:50] * Naugrin agrees
[20:51] <Mykaylla> I thought that was suspending a buffed high level pet and dying down to get into the tutorial? Those screenshots were hilarious.
[20:51] <melliflower> wacky effects , post effects... i can see the possibilities, lol
[20:51] <Beimeith> You must feed Elidroth to beat this raid
[20:51] <Loratex> Viral snare AA?
[20:51] <@Elidroth> negative
[20:51] <Toxicboom> double stuffed oreo auras that turn u into a newt
[20:51] <Voodoman> AE?
[20:51] <Pirlo> All 54 toons would DPS Absor...then kite Ellrya, and mezz Aristo and off tank Elidroth.
06[20:51] * Naugrin slams his Glorious 50/50 Burger of Doom onto Elidroths head
[20:51] <solithan> How about an AA that creates an Essence Emerald
[20:52] <Zilten> Any chance of a kill shot AA?
[20:53] <MintaRose> heck, shift the venin nuke killshot-proc-an-EE chance onto an AA
[20:53] <Zilten> yeah
[20:53] <Zilten> that would be a great one
[20:53] <melliflower> that is actually a great idea
[20:53] <melliflower> 1 % chance
[20:53] <melliflower> so we dont get flodded with EE's on anything higher
[20:54] <melliflower> flooded*
[20:54] <solithan> make it 100% but slow reuse
[20:54] <solithan> easier to control the count that way
[20:54] <melliflower> Sol, i think
[20:54] <melliflower> i could be wrong, but any kill shot would gather the EE
[20:54] <Zilten> Sol meant for his AA idea
[20:54] <melliflower> unless she wants the actual DD as a effect to ?
[20:54] <Zilten> AA to create the EE
[20:55] <MintaRose> it could work either way (tho' I saw it as a straight translation of venin's 1% chance at first). interesting to make it long-reuse guaranteed though, I might even prefer that
[20:55] <melliflower> yeah...
[20:56] <Beimeith> Would you be willing to add AAs that up the proc rate of Gift of Mana? I believe it is still 10% since it started?
[20:56] <MintaRose> I know some events and magicians put items onto your cursors, but I can't think of one that's done it upon a mob death, not recently. Mostly it's done upon zoning in so that modrods and EEs don't interfere.
[20:57] <deadgnomewalkin> eli cna we get some sort of aa damage shield that we can cast on our pets?
[20:58] <melliflower> (Casters) Hastened Forceful Rejuvination
[20:58] <@Elidroth> that's already been asked a dozen times
[20:58] <Pirlo> Elidroth I am off to eat dinner, (beef sandwich!) Thank you very much for the dialogue /cheers
[20:58] <MintaRose> nightnight Pirlo, you're an eloquent person even if you're a wizzy
[20:58] <melliflower> Pirlo, no bacon burger ?
[20:58] <melliflower> =/
[20:59] <Visitor> No to the create an essence emerald idea?
[21:00] <@Elidroth> I don't like the EE idea.. I would if I could make them no rent, but I don't want people farming low level crap to store up truckloads of them
[21:00] <Zilten> cant make it have to give XP?
[21:00] <Zilten> or be over a certain level?
[21:00] <MintaRose> I thought it DID have to give XP
[21:00] <solithan> why not just make an AA that creates one and has a slow reuse so you can control how many come into game
[21:00] <deadgnomewalkin> so make them temp/no rent then
[21:00] <Aiyee> iirc the lowest is loke levle 70?
[21:01] <Aiyee> and it still has to be the killshot
[21:01] <Zilten> or Sol's idea
[21:01] <solithan> forget the mobs entirely
[21:01] <Zilten> where ever 12(or whatever you choose) hours you can create 1
[21:01] <Toxicboom> messing lore up
[21:01] <Zilten> fine, every 12 hours the next mob you kill gives you one
[21:02] <Zilten> or whatever timewise
[21:02] <Toxicboom> better
[21:02] <Zilten> works fine lorewise
[21:02] <solithan> oh you want lore? Impart Essence. You drain part of your soul into an emerald
[21:02] <melliflower> ^
[21:02] <MintaRose> what? not MINE
[21:02] <MintaRose> necros don't give, they take!
[21:02] <Starlight> we're due for a more prominent reappearance by Mayong Mistmoore, the anniversary raid was a nice little interlude to tie things together though.
[21:02] <Naugrin> supplies mortals?
[21:03] <Starlight> souls'r'us
[21:03] <@Elidroth> I'd just rather not
[21:03] <Zilten> k
[21:04] <MintaRose> necros don't give, they take!
[21:04] <MintaRose> sorry, shift key stuck
[21:04] <Zilten> Any chance at at some other killshot AA?
[21:05] <melliflower> actually i changed my mind Zilt
[21:05] <Zilten> chance at 1 counter of twindot or something?, wouldnt help on raids hardly since necros dont peel onto trash often(unless they have lots of HP anyways
[21:05] <Naugrin> WIZARD - after discussing this with my estemed colleagues it doesn't sound like it's possible but.......Dimension Door, a shadowstep using the free target system....click it, put cursor where you want to be, poof you are there.
[21:05] <Zilten> but in a chain xp group, would be nice bonus
[21:06] <@Elidroth> it won't work Naugrim
[21:06] <Naugrin> kk thought not but ty for confirmation
[21:06] <Beimeith> AA line to increase the proc rate of Gift of Mana Lines Elidroth?
[21:06] <@Elidroth> AA still can't use free target AND Shadowstep doesn't work that way
[21:06] <@Elidroth> I thought mana wasn't a problem for Wizards now?
[21:07] <Beimeith> I'm at the bottom of the barrel here
[21:07] <@Elidroth> lol
[21:07] <@Elidroth> I've got a pretty good list for you guys already plus if I get the code I need for my ideas.. we'll be golden
[21:07] <Toxicboom> with prolonged destruction it eats my mana and I am a group/ low end raider
[21:07] <Voodoman> can we hear your ideas?
[21:07] <@Elidroth> no
[21:08] <deadgnomewalkin> eli any chance for a aa ds for pet
[21:08] <Voodoman> we shared you ours, you're abusing us!
[21:08] <Beimeith> I would like to ask for an AA version of AETL to Guild Hall, but that's a port :/
[21:08] <MintaRose> I knew it, he IS planning a "devs vs. players" raid!
[21:08] <Naugrin> WIZARD - last one from me.....Contingency, a passive aa that procs either an invulnerability, fade/deagro, or any combination therein upon getting taken down to low hp (say 15 percent) by melee damage
[21:08] <Xeo> time for 60 seconds of zerkinit?
[21:09] <Voodoman> i still think hate's attraction would be good for necro pulling~
[21:09] <Naugrin> although tbh i like the PD/1 million rune idea much better
[21:09] <Xeo> 1m rune wont last long with todays mobs
[21:10] <Toxicboom> esp in raids
[21:10] <@Elidroth> Naugrin - can't discern between melee and spell damage for something like that
[21:10] <Naugrin> ok you sold me, 10 million rune
[21:10] <Xeo> or maybe a mix of both?
[21:10] <@Elidroth> 1 mil run is fine if you're not standing in there getting punched
[21:10] <Naugrin> ok ty Eli
[21:10] <Toxicboom> belly casters in the raids currently...
[21:10] <Toxicboom> with ae ramp
[21:11] <Voodoman> max melee range
[21:11] <Voodoman> no ramp
[21:11] <@Elidroth> that's just tov
[21:11] <tonzofo> I'd like to point out that actually standing at and maintaining max melee range is actually pretty difficult.
[21:11] <Naugrin> thank you for making it a bit larger area than old belly casters atleast lol
[21:11] <solithan> how about this? Corpse Jump, teleports you to the nearest corpse in the direction you're facing
[21:12] <Naugrin> i think that falls under the " shadowstep doesn't work like that"
[21:12] <Voodoman> Elidroth's Attraction, you're so devillishly good looking that you grab mobs to you
[21:12] <Naugrin> though perhaps " gate " does /shrug
[21:12] <Voodoman> They just can't resist it
[21:13] <@Elidroth> I'm also going to be looking into raid mobs with AoE rampag
[21:13] <@Elidroth> I think it's probably set WAY too high right now
[21:13] <Toxicboom> wake the zombie rezzes at 25% and gives them full mana
[21:13] <Naugrin> it hurts everyone maybe too much, n absolutely eats ramp tanks lol
[21:14] <@Elidroth> yeah.. that wouldn't be updated until the Jan patch though
[21:14] <@Elidroth> but I'll look at it before the break so it'll be sure to be there for Jan
[21:15] <MintaRose> . . .good morning, Brogett?
06[21:15] * MintaRose shrugs
[21:15] <Starlight> he left now, so more like good night
[21:15] <Beimeith> Oh, AA related question not specific to Wizards, can you look into boosting the values of Staunch Recovery some?
[21:15] <@Elidroth> no
[21:16] <MintaRose> 6AM on this computer's clock
[21:16] <MintaRose> but
[21:16] <@Elidroth> some things are on the 'do not upgrade ever' list
[21:16] <MintaRose> aww
[21:16] <Starlight> MintaRose: your clock is off then, 2am for Brog
[21:16] <Beimeith> yes, I know about that list
[21:16] <MintaRose> . . .oh you're right
[21:16] <Xeo> pretty sad i can harvest more then stauch now
[21:16] <Voodoman> elidroth's attraction, yay or nay!?
[21:16] <Beimeith> The AA-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named is on there
[21:16] <@Elidroth> of course you do.. you have Mana Burn
[21:17] <Starlight> hah
[21:17] <Beimeith> omg you said it
[21:17] <Xeo> oh speaking of manaburn!
[21:17] <Toxicboom> oh he said mana burn *gasp*
[21:17] <Xeo> can i get a full refunt on the whole manaburn line
[21:17] <Xeo> refund*
[21:17] <Beimeith> lol
[21:18] <Voodoman> more ranks of lifeburn and manaburn!
[21:18] <Voodoman> MOAR!
[21:19] <Beimeith> Would you consider upping the crit % on Prolonged Destruction? This is aimed at groupers. In a raid we already hit 100% crit rate with synergy
[21:19] <Naugrin> If a necro and a wiz lifeburn and mana burn a mob at the exact same time it should instantly die.....and give the necro an essence emerald
[21:20] <Naugrin> that's a really good idea for grouping Beim
[21:20] <Beimeith> It has been 40% since the line was first made
[21:20] <@Elidroth> yes, I know
[21:21] <Xeo> u planning on staying unguilded?
[21:22] <Beimeith> Um, is that an idea you like Elidroth?
[21:22] <@Elidroth> we'll see
[21:22] <Beimeith> that's fair, thanks
[21:22] <@Elidroth> I've been against increasing crit chance in general
[21:23] <Beimeith> I know, which is why I didn't ask for any passive increase, heh
[21:23] <@Elidroth> So.. it's past my bed time now
[21:23] <@Elidroth> sort of
[21:23] <@Elidroth> lol
[21:23] <Voodoman> i'll give you my crit chance for hate's attraction!
[21:24] <Naugrin> Thank you very much for taking time with us Elidroth
[21:24] <MintaRose> yes, thankslots
[21:25] <@Elidroth> As usual.. feel free to PM me on the forums with ideas. PLEASE though.. if you send me ideas that I've already discussed here and said NO to.. you're not suddenly going to find a Yes through a PM
[21:25] <Corvis2> thank you for taking the time to talk with us, as usual
[21:25] <@Elidroth> yep yep
[21:25] <Voodoman> i'll seduce you
[21:25] <Xeo> thanks Eli
[21:25] <Jerus> pictures of bacon with the requests written over top voodo? =b
[21:26] <Voodoman> bacon covered wizardry online beta keys
[21:26] <Voodoman> and he'll give me anything i want
[21:26] <Beimeith> Wizardry is open beta right now
[21:26] <Voodoman> ruined it
[21:26] <Voodoman> bacon covered bacon it is
[21:29] <MintaRose> nightnight sleepy Europeans and East Coasters

wth i missed half.

[12:11] <Naugrin> man, i'm an irc noob lol
[12:12] <Voodoman> noobgrin
[12:13] <Naugrin> lol
[12:15] <Caring> Vudupls
[12:15] <Caring> PLS
[12:15] <Voodoman> pls (
[12:15] <Xeo> tbh
[12:16] <Caring> TBTH!
[12:23] <synyster> oh no nOt a loratex!
[12:24] <Naugrin> so how can i log from this chat?
[12:25] <Naugrin> meaning log it for later posting or whatever, not leave it lol
[12:26] <Voodoman> i would prefer if you left it though
[12:26] <Voodoman> HE HE HE
[12:26] <Naugrin> hmm....the irc client im using has a toggle logging button, guess i cant ask for more than that hehehe.....now just to find it later
[12:32] <Forcallen> 20 ranks of familar crit hits?
[12:33] <Forcallen> fd familar
[12:33] <Naugrin> summon familiar confetti aura
[12:35] <Loratex>
[12:35] <Tharkis> summon catnip
[12:36] <j> definetly need more swarm pets mhm =b
[12:37] <Voodoman> swarm pets that summon swarm pets
[12:37] <Xeo> wtb aa undead swarm train from lotr
[12:37] <Loratex> im okay with that
[12:38] <Loratex> swarm pets with swarm pet weapons
[12:38] <j> yeah!
[12:38] <Tharkis> swam pets that proc swarm pets that can proc swam pets... so it just keeps getting bigger!
[12:38] <Loratex> swarm pets that proc group lifetaps
[12:38] <Naugrin> i had a conversation with a friend during the first fabled pet wpn year.....about " camping the pally pet weapon"......ever since i want a weapon that summons little paladin swarm pets
[12:38] <Voodoman> that's just silly
[12:38] <j> it goes until it creashes the zone!
[12:39] <Loratex> i still want an AA that summons a gnome to your location and DT's it (pc or NPC) if a pc is not available
[12:40] <synyster> lol
[12:40] <Loratex> voodogurl go wake up xnao
[12:40] <Loratex> but leave melli asleep
[12:41] <Naugrin> after reading through some of the other classes' chats...i have one question
[12:41] <Naugrin> could we get a drachnid illusion?
[12:41] <Mellifleur> wide awake
[12:41] <Tharkis> go play LON naugrin
[12:41] <j> lol
[12:42] <j> btw, necros need more dot extension!
[12:42] <Mellifleur> and the gnome DT AA is epic win
[12:42] <Naugrin> lol that dude was relentless with that question, impressive to say the least lol
[12:43] <deadgnomewalkin> mel why would you want a gnome dt aa?
[12:44] <Mellifleur> lol@DG
[12:44] <j> so he can use them to make swarm pets duh
[12:44] <Loratex> why wouldnt we?
[12:44] <Loratex> um nooo... if im going to dt a gnome i certainly dont want its lifeless and useless body fighting for me
[12:45] <Silu> You DT it, then you drop kick it at your enemy.
[12:45] <Loratex> corpse explosion. DT the gnome make the corpse blow up (d2) style
[12:45] <j> "ae DT all gnomes" then an AE called "punt the dead" works only on gnome bodies but launches them at the target
[12:46] <Loratex> "gnome corpse becomes frail and unstable. Gnome corpse explodes causing bone and organ shrapnel to penetrate your enemies body"
[12:47] <j> I can't help but feel that it should work on halflings too
[12:48] <Beezy> Hey all
[12:48] <Loratex> shut up
[12:48] <Beezy> negative
[12:48] <Loratex> do it
[12:48] <Beezy> nope
[12:48] <Loratex> =(
[12:48] <Beezy> im about to log into EQ also
[12:48] <Beezy> so if you in game you will have to listen also
[12:48] <Loratex> dont you threaten me pally
[12:49] <Beezy> duel me
[12:49] <Beezy> !!!
[12:49] <Quazit> Hey
[12:49] <Loratex> i have important necrobusiness to handle i dont have time for your shinanigans
[12:49] <Beezy> lol
[12:52] <synyster> im gunna pistol whip the next one of you who says shenanigans
[12:52] <Naugrin> lol exactly what i was thinking lol
[12:53] <Forcallen> shangigans?
[12:56] <j> hey farve what's that restaurant you like with all the goofy stuff on the walls?
[12:56] <Quazit> That sounds like some kind of youtube dance lead by Shang..
[12:57] <Voodoman> ELIDROTHHHH
[12:57] <Tharkis> it's the man of the hour!
[12:57] <Loratex> our hero?
[12:58] <@Elidroth> So.. before I get started.. I wanted to mention something
[12:58] <@Elidroth> I played a little Wizardry Online last night..
[12:58] <Xeo> Okay
[12:58] <Loratex> ...
[12:58] <Forcallen> thanks for hosting these eli
[12:58] <@Elidroth> it was strange.. and yet.. interesting
[12:58] <@Elidroth> lol
[12:58] <@Elidroth> anyway
[12:58] <@Elidroth> Wizard/Necro today
[12:59] <@Elidroth> Most of you by now know the drill
[12:59] <Loratex> you're favorite day of the year?!
[12:59] <Voodoman> every day is his favorite when i'm around
[12:59] <@Elidroth> one note.. I have to take a long lunch today.. but I will run long tonight to ensure you get enough time
[13:00] <@Elidroth> So..
[13:00] <@Elidroth> let's go
[13:00] <Voodoman> sounds good
[13:00] <Forcallen> NECRO - Whisperwind additional ranks to increase the distance traveled (push forward upped to 40-50) and another hastened recast rank.
[13:00] <@Elidroth> I think the distance is fine
[13:00] <@Elidroth> let me take a look at recast
[13:00] <Forcallen> at 30 currently
[13:01] <Mellifleur> (Necromancer) the AA Death's Malaise currently has the same 75 % slow, 6 counters for both ranks, could this be adjusted to instead carry the slow for the 1st rank and a debuff similar to Insiduous Retrogression ( Atk / AC / Snare spell ) upon the second rank
[13:01] <@Elidroth> It's at 10 sec currently
[13:01] <Voodoman> i think forcallen meant range, cuz yeah it's 10 seconds lol
[13:02] <@Elidroth> I'm not extending the range or shortening the reuse on it.. it's good where it is
[13:02] <Forcallen> wanted more range at 30 upu to 40 or 50, others wanted faster recast
[13:02] <Forcallen> but moving on then
[13:03] <Fuvi> Healing Adept, Healing Gift, Affliction Mastery and Destructive Cascade for Wizards so Heal and DoT symp procs are viable choices
[13:03] <Naugrin> wizard- more ranks of our subtlety/deagro aas....both passive and activated. and maybe an eta on how long code will be fixing agro on ethereals
[13:04] <@Elidroth> do any of you really think I can go this quickly?
[13:04] <Loratex> thats not what...
[13:04] <Voodoman> no
[13:04] <Loratex> mever mind
[13:04] <Xeo> yes...
[13:04] <Voodoman> just take your time
[13:04] <synyster> the bards did yesterday =P
[13:05] <Voodoman> no rush lol
[13:05] <Loratex> bards are always in a hurry (ergon joke)
[13:05] <Beezy> oh lawd
[13:05] <Naugrin> Hopefully Beim gets on, i imagine he has the best list of stuff for wizzies
[13:05] <@Elidroth> Death's Malaise is not the same
[13:06] <Beimeith> I'm here
[13:06] <@Elidroth> Rk 1 is 25% slow.. Rk 2 is 35%
[13:06] <Beimeith> I didn't want to overload him ;p
[13:06] <Aegrus> err shouldn't it be 75% to match the spell version?
[13:06] <Naugrin> lol was just gonna say, waiting for a pause to drop a load of stuff lol
[13:06] <Beimeith> And my first question was if he thought Wizardry online was clunky and unintuitive, or if that was just me?
[13:07] <@Elidroth> If you want it to be worse than it is now I can certainly change it
[13:07] <Voodoman> no
[13:07] <Aegrus> no thanks, i think I misunderstand what you mean by 25% and 35%, go on
[13:08] <@Elidroth> the spell effect we use for slow is 100 based
[13:08] <@Elidroth> 100 is normal. 75 is 25% slower.. 65 is 35% slower
[13:09] <Aegrus> ok, thanks for clarifying
[13:10] <@Elidroth> Healing AA for wizards doesn't really make any sense
[13:10] <Fuvi> Fade for Zerks doesn't make sense
[13:10] <Beimeith> Elidroth, I've been watching other classes' chats, and one thing I saw was you didn't want to add a lot of activated AAs, but more passives, since Wizards don't really have a ton of buttons to spam, are you more inclined to add activated, or are you still looking for passives?
[13:10] <Tharkis> that's not a way to win an argument here...
[13:11] <@Elidroth> In fact.. none of those ideas makes sense for wizards. DOTs are not your forte, nor is healing

[13:11] <Forcallen> NECRO - Hastened Pestilent Paralysis another rank.
[13:11] <@Elidroth> Naugrin - I don't have any insight into code's priority list
[13:12] <@Elidroth> Naugrin - which agro abilities?
[13:12] <@Elidroth> Spell Casting Subtlety and Silent Casting?
[13:12] <Naugrin> that being said, how about more spell casting subtlety,silent casting, concussivie intuition, mind crash, arcane whisper, etc......or even a new deagro type aa
[13:12] <@Ngreth> Plesze give specific ability names please
[13:13] <@Ngreth> like that.
[13:13] <Xeo> concussive intuition - could use streangthening and recast reduc
[13:14] <Naugrin> Not sure if you knew or not, but atm wizard ethereals seem to be drawing twice the amount of intended hate.
[13:14] <Naugrin> i know aristo knows hehehe
[13:14] <@Elidroth> Spell Casting Sublety is already at 68% reduction
[13:15] <Beimeith> Code is working on a fix for it Naugrin
[13:15] <Naugrin> ty
[13:15] <Beimeith> But I will say, our normal casting has changed, Elidroth
[13:15] <@Elidroth> I can add a couple ranks, but we're nearing the end of that line honestly
[13:15] <Beimeith> We now cast more spells, faster
[13:15] <@Elidroth> it might be that code needs to look at the way hate is generated from spells and melee abilities
[13:15] <Beimeith> which generates aggro a lot faster
[13:16] <@Elidroth> Hmm.. perhaps you need to take that into account then Beimeith
[13:16] <Voodoman> agro is beastly lately
[13:16] <Voodoman> BEASTLY.
[13:17] <Beimeith> We do take it into account, yes, I was only asking that you do as well,
[13:17] <@Elidroth> Don't really have any room left to increase Silent Casting..
[13:17] <Forcallen> Pestilent Paralysis is current 60 sec reuse looking for 40 sec reuse which is still inferior to shamans 30
[13:17] <@Elidroth> Do you see which questions I'm answering Forcallen?
[13:18] <@Elidroth> Have you noticed that there are still several ahead of you that I haven't answered yet?
[13:18] <Voodoman> elidroth you remind me of myself and that scares me
[13:18] <Voodoman> in a good way
[13:19] <Forcallen> will wait sorry, just thought we were going one then another to semi split the time
[13:19] <@Elidroth> A new rank of Concussive Intuition is ok..
[13:20] <Naugrin> perhaps a hastening on it as well?
[13:21] <@Elidroth> I don't think I'm going to change the recourse effects though
[13:21] <@Elidroth> Yeah.. I can do some hastening on it. Not sure how much right now though
[13:22] <Xeo> current recast is 1 min 30 seconds on concussive intuition
[13:22] <@Elidroth> I'm well aware
[13:22] <Xeo> id be happy with it at 60 seconds
[13:23] <Beimeith> Elidroth, the recourse effects on that are capped at level 85 spells, just gyi
[13:23] <Beimeith> They haven't worked in a couple years
[13:23] <@Elidroth> doh
[13:23] <@Elidroth> I'll look at upping that then
[13:23] <@Elidroth> Hastened Pestilent Paralysis.. Hmmm
[13:24] <Naugrin> anyway to send a /tell in here?
[13:24] <@Elidroth> not if you send it to me
[13:24] <Aegrus> just double click the name naugrin
[13:24] <Silu> double click on their name to the right
[13:24] <@Elidroth> please don't PM me in here
[13:24] <Naugrin> wasnt going to, promise lol
[13:24] <Tharkis> or use /msg <name> stuff
[13:25] <@Elidroth> Pestilent Paralysis is already at 1/2 it's original reuse..
[13:25] <@Elidroth> I don't think I want to shorten that any more right now
[13:25] <Sayhellojr-Staph> so Elid how about some hastened murcurial torment? currently its 43mins while the rest of our burn stuff is 30mins or less
[13:25] <Forcallen> just looking for one more rank to 40 sec reuvse verse 30 on VP
[13:25] <Forcallen> ok
[13:25] <@Elidroth> ok.. I'll do 1 rank
[13:25] <Forcallen> thanks
[13:25] <Loratex> !
[13:27] <Beimeith> Elidroth, would you be willing to do a 5th rank of Quick Damage? (I know you said yes to Druids, but this was already on my list to ask for Wizards)
[13:27] <@Elidroth>
[13:27] <@Elidroth> It's the same ability
[13:27] <@Elidroth> so yes, you'll get it too
[13:27] <Xeo> nice
[13:28] <Beimeith> Well I wasn't sure
[13:28] <Beimeith> I was just checking
[13:28] <Forcallen> Quick damage for necros?
[13:28] <Voodoman> ^!
[13:28] <@Elidroth> lol
[13:28] <Forcallen> We have a few nuke requests to come to help with our massive dot issues
[13:29] <@Elidroth> I'd do 1 more rank of Hastened Mercurial Torment
[13:29] <Sayhellojr-Staph> woot!
[13:30] <Beimeith> Would you be willing to do a Hastened Fury line (Fury of Ro/E'ci/Druzzil/Kerafyrm) They are currently at 30 minutes recast right now?
[13:30] <Forcallen> was serious on the quick damage request, unless lol = no
[13:31] <@Elidroth> Hmm..
[13:31] <@Elidroth> I could probably do a LITTLE hastening there
[13:32] <Beimeith> Last year you were looking at 20 minutes as a golden amount
[13:32] <Beimeith> That is what I was going for
[13:32] <Xeo> 20 min recast on the fury line would be sweet
[13:33] <@Elidroth> Forcallen - Let me look at Quick Damage for Necros a bit
[13:33] <@Elidroth> not saying No.. but not saying Yes either right now
[13:33] <Forcallen> ok, can wait for our nuke requests and consider them all together
[13:34] <@Elidroth> that doesn't mean you're getting an answer today
[13:34] <@Elidroth> in fact.. that means you're NOT getting an answer today
[13:35] <Forcallen> thats fine, just was on our list
[13:35] <Forcallen> NECRO - Scent of Terris, additional ranks improving the debuff possibly adding Magic resist debuff at a lower level amount. Extended casting range for the AA.
[13:37] <@Elidroth> one sec
[13:41] <@Elidroth> ok
[13:42] <Naugrin> WIZARD - some type of spell haste (same line as cleric spells) for after we are rezzed mid raid and the clerics are busy keeping folks alive?.......not on par with cleric spells, just something.....i thought of doing crag queen caster version belt but boo to focus decay.
[13:42] <@Elidroth> I'm ok with adding a little bit of Magic debuff, but it won't be a large amount
[13:42] <@Elidroth> on Scent of Terris that is
[13:43] <Forcallen> that works
[13:43] <Corvis> thank you
[13:43] <@Elidroth> the 200 range seems ok to me though
[13:43] <Aegrus> what would you consider a working number for that MR debuff? an estimate maybe?
[13:43] <@Elidroth> don't have one right now
[13:44] <Aegrus> ok
[13:46] <@Elidroth> I'm not sure what you're asking for Naugrim
01[13:46] <Xnao> he is asking for mercurial torment
[13:47] <Naugrin> when wizards are rezzed mid-raid....most of the time clerics are very busy healing , was thinking of some type of self buff to help us in casting-time until we can get a cleric to cast on us (or we die or win)
[13:48] <Voodoman> if you want an ability, don't hesitate to ask
[13:48] <Voodoman> just say mercurial torment so we can get it done faster
[13:48] <Fuvi> spellid 5064 as an AA without the level cap is Naugrin's request
[13:49] <@Elidroth> Hmm
[13:49] <@Elidroth> I think I'm going to say no
[13:49] <Naugrin> kk, ty
[13:50] <Beimeith> spell id 5064 is only 5%, Clerics' is 11%, just to keep that in mind
[13:50] <@Elidroth> Aristo and I are trying to get code to do some things so we can make changes to rez and what rez effects we can create
[13:50] <Beimeith> It would be less, not the same
[13:50] <Naugrin> outside of raids i didnt think it was stepping on any toes as with healer mercs, we always have spell haste pretty much on demand
[13:51] <@Elidroth> it's not stepping on toes.. it's that Aristo and I want to do some different things with rezzes going forward
[13:51] <Naugrin> kk
[13:51] <@Elidroth> basically we want to skin that cat another way
[13:51] <@Elidroth> no offense to our resident EQ cat lady
[13:51] <@Elidroth> lol
[13:51] <Aiyee> mmm, skinning
[13:52] <Quazit> lol
[13:52] <Forcallen> NECRO - I know you said you were iffy to anything spire related but necros are looking for small activated overcrit boosts without having additional buttons to click. Our 3rd spire is very straight forward and is the only spire necros use. We would like another rank or two to 3rd spire that adds 10% more overcrit per rank.
[13:52] <@Elidroth> no
[13:52] <Forcallen> kk
[13:52] <@Elidroth> I'm not playing with the spires anymore

[13:53] <Mellifleur> (Necromancer) AA version of Banshee Aura ?
[13:53] <@Elidroth> no auras
[13:54] <Mellifleur> it's not an aura
[13:54] <Aegrus> its a DS spell
[13:54] <Aegrus> from like the low 30's
[13:54] <Aegrus> damage shield that is
[13:54] <Mellifleur> low level DS spell with a reagent ( pearl )
[13:54] <@Elidroth> it's just a DS?
[13:54] <@Elidroth> lol
[13:54] <@Elidroth> dumb name
[13:54] <Mellifleur> lol
01[13:54] <Xnao> level 16 iirc
[13:54] <Aegrus> yeah lol
[13:54] <Mellifleur> maybe bump up the damage a bit ?
[13:54] <Aegrus> thank you OG EQ devs
[13:55] <Mellifleur> currently at 15 iirc
[13:55] <Voodoman> just say no so we can pretend it never ot asked
[13:55] <@Elidroth> Hey.. if you want a 6 dmg DS.. lol
[13:55] <Loratex> lol
[13:55] <@Elidroth> sure
[13:55] <Voodoman> please
[13:55] <@Elidroth> why not
[13:55] <Voodoman> do not
[13:55] <Voodoman> ive us that
[13:55] <Loratex> ugh
[13:55] <Mellifleur> lol @ Eli, you know what we mean, a bump to it
[13:55] <@Elidroth> Look.. before I make any of these.. I'm going to post my final list up on the forums for discussion.
[13:56] <Mellifleur> k
[13:56] <Elenwyyi> wizard - AA Ethereal Invisibility - AA form of spell ID 12732, but limited to 5 minute duration, 10 or 15 minute recast
[13:56] <@Elidroth> But keep in mind.. when I do that.. it will NOT be up for crazy debate or arguing
[13:56] <@Elidroth> lol
[13:57] <@Elidroth> Elenwyyi - is that just to free up a spell gem?
[13:57] <Elenwyyi> no
[13:57] <@Elidroth> I don't follow the reasoning
[13:57] <Elenwyyi> wizards don't need a spell gem freed up
[13:57] <Beimeith> That isn't a spell we have Elidroth
[13:57] <Beimeith> But the spell already exists in the database
[13:57] <@Elidroth> ah.. nevermind.. just noticed the casting level.. lol
[13:58] <Beimeith> Think of it as "code reuse"
[13:58] <Beimeith> save you some time
[13:58] <@Elidroth> I'll call that a maybe
[13:58] <Elenwyyi> ok thanks
[13:58] <Fuvi> 1: Invisibility (Enhanced 2) per raidloot, Shroud of Stealth or whatever you call it in house
[13:59] <Forcallen> NECRO - Gathering Dusk, fix so that damage is attributed to caster. Or change this to be a chaotic power click overfocus from 50-100% for 25 counters.
[14:00] <@Elidroth> Gathering Dusk not giving the damage to the caster is not something I can fix
[14:00] <@Elidroth> I've already told code about the issue
[14:01] <Loratex> we are asking for something added to it
[14:01] <Forcallen> can we have the chaotic power aspect added?
[14:01] <Voodoman> it'd be pretty useless if fixed, but it could be changed!
[14:01] <Mellifleur> the ramp time and damage return makes it useless, it also shares counter with SK / Pally Challenge lines
[14:01] <Xeo> new WIZ AA Elemental Flux - An AA version of our Flux staff clicky(Lower Element II) debuffs mob by 12 to fire/ice.. and AA version of this with afew ranks, instant cast 0 recast, maybe -5sv per rank or something
[14:04] <@Elidroth> instant cast w/0 recast
[14:04] <@Elidroth> lol
[14:04] <Beimeith> That is how our item click is Elidroth
[14:04] <@Elidroth> so use the item then
[14:04] <Beimeith> He wants it as an AA
[14:04] <Beimeith> So that you can upgrade it
[14:04] <@Elidroth> I know
[14:04] <Xeo> as an AA with slightly more debuff is what i was aiming for
[14:04] <Beimeith> Rather than bug Chandrok to make a whole new item just for us
[14:05] <Beimeith> Because we know you guys don't like making special items few people can use
[14:06] <Beimeith> But AAs are made for individual classes
[14:07] <@Elidroth> I guess
[14:07] <@Elidroth> seems like a strange request but ok
[14:07] <Forcallen> so that was a no to chaotic power aspect on GD eli?
[14:07] <Forcallen> gathering dusk
[14:07] <Voodoman> gathering dusk*
[14:08] <@Elidroth> I don't know that I want to do that
[14:09] <Silu> the hate component of gathering dusk could be made higher to compensate
[14:09] <Forcallen> ok
[14:09] <Forcallen> NECRO - Embalmers Carapace improvements. Hastened reuse.
[14:09] <Aegrus> or alternatively you could extend the hate duration and then have a proc component ala necrotizing wounds that has a much more deleterious effect
[14:14] <@Elidroth> I don't really see a reason to change Embalmer's Carapace
[14:14] <Beimeith> New AA idea for you Elidroth, Damage Adept, basically a damage form the the Healing Adept AA line, but naturally for DD spells, not heals? (The name is open for changes, I'm terrible at naming)
[14:15] <Forcallen> Ok, eli we had a few ideas don't want to spam them but... were looking for some more overcrit and possibly extending only the over crit portion by a tic or two.
[14:16] <@Elidroth> It's an interesting idea Beimeith..
[14:16] <@Elidroth> I'll look into it
[14:16] <Beimeith> cool, thanks
[14:18] <@Elidroth> wow.. THQ in Chap 11
[14:18] <ueuelil> Yeah seems like alot of the major names are headed that way, it's sad.
[14:18] <@Elidroth> we're not!
[14:18] <@Elidroth>
[14:19] <ueuelil> w00t
[14:19] <Beimeith> No, but this WAS the last expansion I hear?
[14:20] <Forcallen> so anything EC is off the table Eli?
[14:20] <@Elidroth> I haven't heard that.. in fact.. Smed said at both SOE Live, and our recent company-wide meeting, that EQ and EQ2 were ABSOLUTELY still making expansions
[14:20] <Beimeith> it was a joke Elidroth
[14:20] <Beimeith> "Oh this is the last expansion"
[14:20] <@Elidroth> East Commons?
[14:20] <Beimeith> It gets said every year!
[14:20] <Forcallen> embalmers carapace
[14:20] <Forcallen> sorry
[14:21] <@Elidroth> I don't see a reason to change it
[14:21] <Forcallen> k
[14:21] <Forcallen> NECRO - Spectral Form activated AA that grants more overcrit and crit rate for some period, Going forward we could ask for improvements to this line for activated short duration overcrit boosts without the worries that spires and Embalmers bring to the table.
[14:22] <Forcallen> for dots
[14:22] <@Elidroth> crit chance(rate) is basically dead
[14:23] <Fuvi> [5953] Teleport Bind for Secondary Bind for Wizards
[14:23] <Forcallen> kk, overcrit aspect was the main request
[14:23] <@Elidroth> Fuvi - we've got some other things in the works for teleportation. I'd rather not give anything new out in that regard right now
[14:24] <Naugrin> so i guess the coveted gate to groupmate is out? hehehehe
[14:24] <Taein> Hehe
[14:24] <@Elidroth> it always will be

[14:24] <Xeo> WIZ AA Secondary Recall: (Beimeith asked about this last year and you said you'd rather reduce the base recast rather then hasten..) With a decent chance to collapse would you consider it?
06[14:24] * Naugrin sighs
[14:24] <@Elidroth> we're never going to give you Reverse COH or anything of the sort
[14:25] <Naugrin> reverse coh was a term made up to keep us porters down, it's gate to group!
06[14:25] * Naugrin grins
[14:25] <@Elidroth> Forcallen - what kind of overcrit are you suggesting?
[14:26] <Xeo> Teleport Bind also in that
[14:26] <Voodoman> DoT overcrit? values are your forte
[14:26] <@Elidroth> oh I know.. I'm just curious
[14:26] <@Elidroth>
01[14:27] <Xnao> can have it drain hp like lich
[14:27] <@Elidroth> to see if we're in Zerkkin-land yet
[14:27] <Quazit> Lol
[14:27] <Voodoman> 3000% overcrit +50k HP permanent
01[14:27] <Xnao> an alternative to mana regen
[14:27] <Voodoman> DI
[14:27] <Voodoman> and it DTs your target
[14:27] <Loratex> lo... simmer down now
[14:27] <Forcallen> Depends on stacking conflicts only looking for 25-50% more short term overcrit during our burn and a way to continue this line forward.
[14:28] <@Elidroth> I'm really not concerned with Necro burn to be honest
[14:28] <@Elidroth> that's like saying I need to focus on Wizard DOTs
[14:28] <Forcallen> i say burn since passive it would be to much
[14:28] <@Elidroth> or Rogue healing
[14:29] <Forcallen> basically short term enhancement buff
[14:29] <Voodoman> sooo no more overcrit? ;p
[14:29] <@Elidroth> basically
[14:29] <@Elidroth> lol
[14:29] <Voodoman> in that case, more lingering death!
[14:29] <Locutus> spawn more overcrits?
[14:29] <Aegrus> eldiroth rogue healing is a very serious probblem and you should be concerned about it
[14:29] <Loratex> so what is it youre willing to actually give us?
[14:30] <Fuvi> it's not focusing on Wizard DoTs, it's that AAs are the only way to enchance Symp Procs and without DoT AAs for Wizards there is no possible value which is viable and balanced for both Necros and Wizards
[14:30] <Forcallen> We only have 3rd spire and Embalmers for activated overcrit would like a way to carry those forward even at small increments, since those 2 are off the table.
[14:31] <Corvis> perhaps more vengeful spirits/destructive cascade ranks?
[14:31] <@Elidroth> You got more vengeful spirits already
01[14:31] <Xnao> our dots used to be the best but the gap is closing
[14:32] <@Elidroth> AND destructive cascade
01[14:32] <Xnao> everyone wants better dots now
[14:32] <@Elidroth> Wait wait wait.. so the gap is closing.. which means you STILL have the best dots
[14:32] <@Elidroth> seriously.. this is getting ridiculous.
[14:32] <Voodoman> you guys making him mad
[14:32] <Voodoman> >:|
[14:32] <@Elidroth> We're still the best.. but we used to be MORE the best
[14:32] <Elenwyyi> wizard - AA version of Planeshift: Ethereal (Spell ID 7541) and Planeshift: Material (Spell ID 7542). Keeping the same duration (30s), and the same recast (30m)
[14:32] <Loratex> okay okay sorry eli
[14:33] <Elenwyyi> not spells wizards have currently
[14:34] <Beimeith> Code reuse = best reuse imo
[14:35] <@Elidroth> I'm not giving you template abilities
[14:35] <Beimeith> Well, it is a -Wizard- Template, we get points for that don't we?
[14:37] <Elenwyyi> short duration long recast survivability and situation specific, but as druids say, fair enough™
[14:38] <Fuvi> Keramancy, same as merging focus familiars to [37169] Kerafyrm's Prismatic Familiar make one -mancy line going forward instead of [37010] Pyromancy, [37004] Cryomancy and [32598] Arcomancy being continued
[14:38] <@Elidroth> no
[14:38] <Forcallen> NECRO - Embrace the Decay, improved cure counters and hastened reuse.
[14:39] <@Elidroth> yeah.. that can get upgraded a little
[14:39] <@Elidroth> let me look at the reuse
[14:40] <Silu> Embrace the Decay currently has a 5 minute reuse
[14:40] <Taein> Necro-any chance of activated Twincast for us? GoDResolve is nice, but half of the 60 second timer is burned on nuking. we get maybe 6 dots to twincast before it wears off
[14:40] <@Elidroth> I'll reduce it by 1.5 min
[14:41] <Silu> Thanks
[14:41] <Loratex> thank you elidroth
[14:41] <Fuvi> are Glyph upgrades even being considered?
[14:41] <Beezy> gnome has entered the room
[14:41] <Mellifleur> @Taen /join #Necrotalk
[14:42] <Beezy> haha
[14:42] <@Elidroth> no.. Glyph upgrades are NOT being considered
[14:42] <Beimeith> I mentioned this to you before Elidroth, but would you be open to moving the Crit Damage from Slot8 on Improved Familiar to Slot4 to prevent stacking issues with Druid Group Spirit of the Black Wolf?
[14:43] <@Elidroth> not against it
[14:44] <Beimeith> I believe slot4 is "open" but you would have more information than I do
[14:45] <Beimeith> And on that vein, an increase to Improved Familiar?
[14:47] <@Elidroth> I upgrade Kerafyrm's already
[14:47] <Beimeith> Yes, but we can't use both at once
[14:48] <Beimeith> We use Improved when we group with a bard
[14:48] <@Elidroth> the horror
[14:48] <Beimeith> Because Kerafyrm's doesn't stack with Aria
[14:48] <Beimeith> I'm not asking them to stack, lol
[14:48] <Beimeith> I'm saying they are used in different situations
[14:48] <@Elidroth> perhaps
[14:48] <Beimeith> and one was upgraded and the other wasn't, that's all
[14:48] <synyster> bards should be with melee anyway =P
[14:49] <Fuvi> hit counter removed or greatly increased and duration extended on new ranks [21970] Sustained Destruction to turn it into it's namesake of sustaining a higher level of damage at the cost of additional mana
[14:49] <Forcallen> NECRO - Hastened Convergence, bring it more in line with our lvl 53 spell's 30 second recast, currently at 5 min.
[14:49] <@Elidroth> it has a counter for a reason
[14:51] <@Elidroth> I'll hastened it some, but it won't be anywhere close to 30 seconds
[14:51] <Forcallen> thats fine since it has the EE requirement we just wanted it closer
[14:52] <outlawz> secondary recall, can it be changed to not have the possibility of collapsing, or have the reuse timer shoertened
[14:52] <Beimeith> That was already asked for outlawz, he doesn't want to mess with ports right now
[14:52] <@Elidroth> collapse is in code.. nothing I can do with it
[14:53] <Fuvi> new rank of [15505/16133] Aspect of Zomm with higher swimming skill
[14:53] <outlawz> seriously fuv less waiting peoples time
[14:54] <outlawz> waisting
[14:54] <synyster> wasting *
[14:54] <Fuvi> AA version is actually [16835/16133] Aspect of Zomm
[14:55] <@Elidroth> that can't be a serious request can it?
[14:55] <Xeo> WIZ AA: Would it be possible get the dmg mod from Improved Sustained Destruction also on Prolonged Destruction, Think its 5% or something
[14:55] <@Elidroth> Wizards need DPS increases and you want more swimming skill on Eye of Zomm?
[14:55] <Forcallen> NECRO - Hastened Dying Grasp, currently 36 minute reuse maybe 2-3 ranks.
[14:56] <Yinnie> Evening all
[14:56] <outlawz> feel free to boot that elidroth
[14:56] <@Elidroth> I can do some hastened there I think Forcallen
[14:57] <@Elidroth> I'm not sure how much.. but some
[14:57] <@Elidroth> I also want to do another round of conditional doom abilities
[14:58] <@Elidroth> need to spend a little time working out details on those
[14:58] <Voodoman> such as?
[14:58] <Naugrin> WIZARD - AA version of our iceblock spell....maybe with some extra range thrown in
[14:58] <Loratex>
[14:58] <Voodoman> maybe i'm not understanding "conditional doom" heh
[14:59] <Fuvi> I didn't realize it was an either or and if you made another rank of Aspect of Zomm you would cut more ranks of Destructive Fury, I thought it was an AA chat
[14:59] <@Elidroth> basically.. you put a buff either on you or someone else.. that triggers when a condition is met
[15:00] <Voodoman> can it DT them? i have a few people i need to kill
[15:00] <Mellifleur> funny you mention that Eli
[15:00] <Loratex> ^
[15:00] <@Elidroth> such as.. when the tank drops below 40% health, it can trigger a heal
[15:00] <Mellifleur> i was just discussing something similar
[15:00] <Loratex> please do tell
[15:00] <synyster> Fuvi... what you are saying is you want an eyeball... thats useless other than to see a room you dont wanna go in... to have high swimming ?>
[15:01] <Xeo> think rangers have an ability like that
[15:01] <@Elidroth> several classes have things like that..
[15:01] <@Elidroth> I really want to expand it more.. I just need to spend some time figuring out how so as not to be broken/OP
[15:01] <Yinnie> Any chance of wizzys getting shadow step removed from our "hole is space" AA or giving us another version of it on the same timer...that shadow step is a killer on things like the Breeding Grounds raid.
[15:01] <Beimeith> hold on the questions guys, he has several to respond to
[15:02] <@Elidroth> actually I don't
[15:02] <@Elidroth> lol
[15:02] <Beimeith> I saw Icebock
[15:02] <Beimeith> and Xeo asked for one
[15:02] <Beimeith> I didn't see a reply to :x
[15:02] <Forcallen> same was waiting for naugs answer
[15:02] <barallronBB> Tie it into a FD? doom ability
[15:02] <Xeo> you didnt reply to my last request =p
[15:03] <@Elidroth> Xeo - No. The differences between Prolonged and Sustained Destruction are intentional
[15:03] <Xeo> Okay, would it be possible to get that mod on a new disc?
[15:03] <@Elidroth> I don't do discs
[15:03] <synyster> by disc he means aa
[15:04] <Xeo> new line, new name AA
[15:04] <@Elidroth> Probably not

[15:04] <Forcallen> NECRO - Frenzy the Dead, another rank or two. With the final numbers being something like 25% overhaste, 13% to Flurry, 480 ATK, 15% crit chance, 165% damage mod for 90 second duration.
[15:04] <Beimeith> That damage mod is the only one we don't really use Elidroth
[15:04] <Beimeith> It is the only one without stacking issues basically
[15:07] <@Elidroth> That seems more than a little excessive
[15:07] <Beimeith> Zerkkin mode activated?
[15:07] <Voodoman> haha he said that thing
[15:08] <Voodoman> lol get it
[15:08] <Forcallen> My request? its an upgrade from current frenzy and what mages have to a much lesser degree.
[15:08] <@Elidroth> seriously.. that's a 40% increase in haste, nearly 50% increase in damage, not counting the addition of crit chance, flurry, and nearly 40% attack power
[15:09] <Loratex> okay
[15:09] <Forcallen> You hash the numbers out as you see fit. There buff is 3 min and greater than that plus we have less aa lines for pets and a weaker base pet model.
01[15:09] <Xnao> it is just a template, some sort of improvement on it
[15:09] <@Elidroth> How do your DOTs compare to theirs?
[15:10] <@Elidroth> You don't see them complaining that their DoTs are smaller than yours
[15:10] <Forcallen> same as our nukes to them =P
[15:10] <Loratex> goner is a dot =)
[15:10] <@Elidroth> Let me point something out.. yet again..
[15:10] <Forcallen> Just looking for upgrade to frenzy
[15:10] <@Elidroth> another class having something IS NOT a reason for you to get the same thing
[15:10] <Voodoman> we alreayd have the AA
[15:10] <Forcallen> Wasn't using that as the reason
[15:10] <Voodoman> we're looking for it to be increased, like every other AA we have
[15:10] <@Elidroth> You just did
[15:11] <Forcallen> Just saying something more powerful was in game, we just wanted a lesser version.
[15:11] <Voodoman> it's hard not to compare it when you get it from that class
01[15:11] <Xnao> he got over zealous
[15:11] <@Elidroth> Ok. I'll make this simple then. No.
[15:12] <Mellifleur> (Necromancer ) Utlity : Upgrade to Rest the Dead line .. AA can start at level 80 and scale... will allow Necromancers to calm Undead targets once again
[15:14] <ueuelil> While not wanting to speak for my fellow necros, I don't think that most of us would disagree that while very passionate about our class, while very invested and intent on the numbers side of things, we may not be quite as gifted in tact, empathy, and patience. We are not trying to frustrate you El, I apologize if we are. We just really love our class. =)
[15:14] <Xeo> WIZ new AA Arcane Fury: Would it be possible to get something like Druids Natures Fury[27536] effect as a new AA called Arcane Fury. Maybe shorter duration or lesser amount or the same even..
[15:14] <Forcallen> yeah just wanted another rk or 2 for frenzy numbers were bad to add, sorry
[15:14] <@Elidroth> Mellifleur - I'm ok with that actually.
[15:17] <Mellifleur> ty
[15:17] <Beimeith> As a convenience thing, could we get an AA version of Annul Magic (aka dispel)?
[15:17] <Beimeith> This is more than just Wizards, more like all casters
[15:20] <@Elidroth> HOLD THAT THOUGHT!
[15:20] <@Elidroth> sounds like we're headed out now..
[15:20] <Voodoman> STOP YELLIN AT ME
[15:21] <@Elidroth> Today will be a long lunch break
[15:21] <Xeo> indian again?
03[15:21] * Voodoman was kicked by Elidroth (OK.. NO MORE YELLING)
[15:21] <Elenwyyi> haha
[15:21] <@Elidroth> no.. Slater's 50/50
[15:21] <Sayhellojr-Staph> hahhahah
[15:21] <Voodoman> you're naughty
[15:21] <@Elidroth> only the greatest hamburger known to man
[15:21] <@Elidroth> 50% beef, 50% bacon!
[15:21] <Loratex> just what you need
[15:21] <Beimeith> wtf
[15:21] <Voodoman> i hope a cowpig hybrid lectures you on the importance of being vegan
[15:22] <Beimeith> I want this
[15:22] <Xeo> need an AA version of that hamburger tbh
[15:22] <Yinnie> share !
[15:22] <Loratex> and then eats you for your crimes against cowpighybrid
[15:22] <@Elidroth> back as soon as I can
[15:22] <Yinnie> we need cows i EQ
[15:22] <Mellifleur> kk Eli
[15:22] <Mellifleur> bring back some for the class
[15:22] <Loratex> sadly
[15:22] <Yinnie> kk
[15:22] <Loratex> there is no cow level
[15:23] <Naugrin> I really really want to try that burger now
[15:23] <Yinnie> what wizzy goodness did i miss out on?
[15:23] <illa> swimming eye of zomm
[15:23] <Voodoman> an eye aa
[15:23] <Xeo> u missed out on the eye of zomm with swimming mod
[15:23] <Voodoman> for swimmin
[15:23] <Fuvi> Annul AA "should" atleast be equal to [6513] Devour Enchantment with 3sec cast and no recast which is on Wristband of Secrets
[15:24] <Naugrin> hmm aa version of flux staff (so that it can be upgraded incrementally)
[15:24] <Beimeith> I have a list going
[15:24] <Aither> ok im so gonna throw a pound of bacon in my food processor next time i grill burgers
[15:24] <Beimeith> but ill brb im getting lunch too
[15:25] <Fuvi> right, swimmin eye is about as useful as annul magic
[15:25] <Beimeith> ...
[15:25] <Fuvi> requesting an AA in an AA chat, trolls bein' trolls
[15:25] <Yinnie> any mention of our AE TLs ?
[15:25] <Voodoman> yeah
[15:25] <Voodoman> no it's not
[15:25] <Naugrin> no port stuff yinnie
[15:25] <Voodoman> i'll take annul magic AA any day of the weak
[15:25] <Voodoman> week
[15:25] <Voodoman> *
[15:25] <Naugrin> they have other plans
[15:26] <Beimeith> yeah, dispel you can cast between nukes totally the same usefulness as a swimming eyeball
[15:26] <Fuvi> why? you too weak to farm Aten Ha Ra?
[15:26] <Loratex> ...
[15:26] <Loratex> how can an eye swim?
[15:26] <Loratex> really?
[15:26] <Naugrin> cpl ranks of subtlety, another rank of concussive intuition , hastened concussive intuition (and uncapping the recourses)
[15:26] <dfaulter> good thing it doesnt die from falls, else you could ask for that as well.
[15:26] <Beimeith> anyway, brb
[15:26] <Loratex> lol
[15:27] <illa> swimming eye was bad enough for eli to go off after a week and a half of swarm pets procing swarm pets
[15:27] <Naugrin> asked for iceblock aa, think he missed it, will try again in a bit after Eli's lunch break
[15:27] <Yinnie> nice we need some agro reduction
[15:28] <Naugrin> aa dispel for all casters would be rather handy just for breaking root lol
[15:28] <Loratex> so would a 1 damage nuke aa
[15:28] <Naugrin> lol guess you dont have a wiz with iceblock n aa's to make it stronger
[15:29] <Fuvi> right and we currently have Devour Enchantment, well those of us that can handle Vex Thal
[15:29] <illa> my roots are pretty hard to break
[15:29] <Naugrin> dont get me wrong, when you WANT it to hold, it wont, and when you want it to break, it wont
[15:29] <Yinnie> when i want it to break it won't, when i dont want to to break it will
[15:29] <Naugrin> hehehehe
[15:29] <Yinnie> hehe great minds
[15:31] <Naugrin> on the aten ha ra note....the challenge is not killing aten, the challenge is finding aten available to kill lol
[15:31] <Voodoman> we have spell
[15:31] <Voodoman> spell not worth memming
[15:31] <Fuvi> well you've had 11 years
[15:31] <Voodoman> want spell to be AA
[15:31] <Voodoman> dat's hard logic bro
[15:31] <Fuvi> Bracer is a click not a spell
[15:31] <Fuvi> not hard logic
06[15:32] * Naugrin agrees with Voodman

[15:32] <Fuvi> don't try to mem the bracer, that's probably where you are going wrong
[15:32] <Voodoman> i have annul magic, dunno if you bought it or not
[15:32] <Xislaben> 4Snakidroth?
[15:32] <Voodoman> considering you want an eye that can swim
[15:32] <Naugrin> Eli is on lunch Xis
[15:33] <Fuvi> I have Devour Enchantment since it doesn't take a spell slot, has twice the dispel power and consider recast time is faster than Annul
[15:33] <Fuvi> I'm sorry that you haven't been able to achieve that level of power Voodoman
[15:33] <Voodoman> i have eye of xomm
[15:33] <Voodoman> and i don't run it through water
[15:33] <Voodoman> as a click
[15:33] <Naugrin> if that's your thought process, does the lil mechanical eye item swim better?
[15:34] <Flow> voodoman does too much damage. needs nerf.
[15:34] <illa> maybe if it was a spider eye
06[15:34] * Flow slaps Voodoman around a bit with a large trout
[15:34] <Voodoman> it's also pretty easy to get no drop things on firiona vei
[15:34] <Voodoman> but yeah screw everyone who needs annul magic AA
[15:34] <Voodoman> vie*
[15:35] <Naugrin> ok i know i should, but i can't resist......WIZARD - Trout of Zomm
[15:35] <Xeo> lol
[15:35] <Fuvi> no, once you learn to read you will see that I stated that it should be equal in power to Devour Enchantment
06[15:35] * Mykaylla laughs at Naugrin
[15:36] <Voodoman> once you learn to read you'll realize that nobody wants eye of zomm that can swim
[15:36] <Voodoman> except you
[15:36] <illa> but it will be so important for scouting places like kedge
[15:36] <Fuvi> I'm just pointing out the inconsistency of OMG, that's not DPS didn't come up with Annul Magic
[15:36] <dfaulter> i dont know, a floating eye that swims seems kinda OP lol
[15:37] <illa> and going to the lower part of sebilis
[15:37] <Fuvi> because you don't consider ideas only the source
[15:37] <Voodoman> there's some water in crystal caverns too
[15:37] <Fuvi> so you see Fuvi and start crying
[15:37] <illa> and in siren's grotto
[15:38] <Voodoman> i see the dumbest idea i've ever read and start crying
[15:38] <illa> i have no idea who you are
[15:38] <illa> so grats
[15:38] <synyster> pretarget for koi`doken?
[15:38] <Voodoman> that's like opposite zerkkin level
[15:38] <Flow> lol
[15:38] <Naugrin> Fuvi, in all seriousness on a side note.....in kael there is a bind sight clickie.....can be used to get to some places scouting without eye.......can bounce from target to target each time you cast
[15:39] <Fuvi> http://lucy.allakhaz....html?id=132816 thanks
01[15:40] <Xnao> i see fuvi and know its a dumb idea
01[15:40] <Xnao> then cry
[15:40] <Fuvi> swimmin eye was a simple request, if it's something that's c/p and change one field
[15:40] <Voodoman> everything is simple "if"
[15:40] <Fuvi> if it's some complicated it's even simpler to say no
[15:41] <synyster> what is a fuvi anyhow
01[15:41] <Xnao> IF
01[15:41] <Xnao> IF
01[15:41] <Xnao> I ruled the world
[15:41] <Fuvi> it's the crying over OMG, in 9 hour chat must only ask for DPS or have crying which is annoying
01[15:41] <Xnao> id be like nas and free all my sons
[15:42] <Shadowbile> What has been gone over for necro so far? So I don't repeat everything 12 times
[15:42] <synyster> its more like a 6 hr chat
[15:42] <Voodoman> almost no DPS
[15:42] <Voodoman> has been asked for
[15:42] <synyster> they have a channel
[15:42] <Voodoman> in this chat
[15:42] <Voodoman> do you even read?
[15:42] <synyster> how do i read?
[15:42] <Voodoman> eyes op
[15:42] <Voodoman> if only they could swim through his tears
[15:42] <synyster> nowai!
[15:42] <Voodoman> makes sense now
[15:43] <Fuvi> dps is pretty simple, Spell Casting Mastery for Wizards, Crits Str/Rate for Wizards and Necros if something has a numerical damage value make it bigger, make it cast faster and/or make it cast more often
[15:44] <dfaulter> fuvi responds with, if it swims, make it go faster.
[15:44] <Fuvi> right, I asked for an AA upgrade in an AA chat, the horror
[15:44] <synyster> wait i got it
[15:44] <synyster> an eye of zomm
[15:44] <synyster> that nukes
[15:45] <synyster> and boost your crit
[15:45] <Fuvi> that would be like Servant of Ro
[15:45] <illa> eye of zomm swarm pets
[15:45] <synyster> and drop 1 tear a tick for your dead homies
[15:45] <dfaulter> think of all the stuff you could see with eye of zomm swarm pets
[15:45] <Fuvi> except it also changes your pov
[15:45] <illa> you could see EVERYTHING
[15:45] <synyster> ERRYTHING
[15:46] <illa> unless its underwater
[15:46] <synyster> then your slow
[15:46] <dfaulter> you could see which one swims the fastest and have eye of zomm underwater races
[15:46] <synyster> youre*
01[15:46] <Xnao> imagine if you could have an eye of zomm for each eye
[15:46] <synyster> split screen eq?
[15:46] <Beimeith> Spell casting mastery was not asked for I don't think?
[15:46] <illa> what if you drachnid illusioned first
[15:46] <synyster> scope 2 rooms at once
[15:46] <dfaulter> imagine if your eye of zomm could summon a wizard
[15:46] <illa> so you'd have 8 eyes
01[15:46] <Xnao> sheeeet
[15:46] <synyster> need moar shadowman imo
[15:46] <Naugrin> lol illa
[15:47] <Naugrin> it's all about the drachnid illusion
[15:47] <synyster> i want my holgresh beads to have an upgraded eye of zomm
[15:47] <Voodoman> eye of zomm that gives you death bloom
[15:47] <dfaulter> i want the holgresh beads eye to swim faster underwater....
[15:47] <illa> put a swimming mod on the beads
[15:48] <dfaulter> now your thinking
01[15:48] <Xnao> how about
01[15:48] <Xnao> eye of zomm summons you
[15:48] <illa> call of hero on death
[15:48] <Naugrin> good idea...that's not a "port"
[15:49] <synyster> in mocking a spell did we just make a good idea?
[15:49] <illa> totally not a port
[15:49] <illa> maybe
[15:49] <Naugrin> lol
[15:49] <Fuvi> right, Mastery not asked for yet, same as at some point it will be asked for Force of Will to do more damage, better resist mod and shorter recast
[15:49] <Naugrin> you thinking fury mastery?....mastery just reduces mana cost correct?
[15:49] <Voodoman> eye of zomm that gives you increased scs
[15:50] <Fuvi> no, thinking Mastery, Fury Mastery would be crits after the comma but used generic term crit so it also applies to Necros
[15:50] <Naugrin> i would like an eye of zomm that floats in front of the tanks face that lets me get summoned
[15:50] <Xeo> lol you guys
[15:51] <illa> eye of zomm hat ornament?
[15:51] <Voodoman> eye of zomm that protects you
[15:51] <Tharkis> wizard aa, furry mastery: turns them into an inconspicuous small fluffy animal.... with an eye of zomm
[15:51] <Voodoman> embalmer's eye of zomm
[15:51] <Mykaylla> Wouldn't that be Elevated Finger of Zomm instead, Naugrin?
[15:51] <Naugrin> lol
06[15:51] * Mykaylla thinks Tharkis would rescue them, then.
[15:51] <Xislaben> 4how bout Eye of Zommbie: pretends to be you, following your guild around, collecting dkp
06[15:52] * Tharkis would chase them ! /pounce
[15:52] <Naugrin> Xislaben , at higher ranks, could it work while offline?
[15:52] <Zilten> now that one would be good xis as long as you can have it emote casting messages
[15:52] <Beimeith> Eye of buying gear from people that transfered to fironia Vie to sell gear?
[15:52] <Xislaben> 4yes but you must buy stuff from station store
[15:53] <Naugrin> lol
[15:53] <Xislaben> 4like 5000 SCM for shield of emotes, on emote failure your name is replaced with a rnadom guildy's
[15:53] <illa> summon an eye that transfers to fv and lets you view the baz there

[15:53] <Zilten> haha
[15:53] <Naugrin> im so onboard with that one
[15:54] <Naugrin> knockback beam you could use on ppl in your raid
[15:54] <Naugrin> that would work too
[15:54] <synyster> that could help fix stupid people lol
[15:54] <Sayhellojr-Staph> Necro- How about an AA like this elidroth... it has 3 stages each a doom effect, 1st stage would be 90seconds or so long and would do nothing.. 2ed stage would do 25% boost to dots and dd's (weaker impel proc), and would last 1min. 3rd stage would be 50%(see above), and would last 30seconds. at the end of last phase would summon a eye of Zomm that has super swimming
[15:54] <Xeo> Eli is afk mate
[15:54] <Sayhellojr-Staph> my phone
[15:55] <Sayhellojr-Staph> i know
[15:55] <Tharkis> eye of zomm that lets me stalk Beimeith and Qulas and cast curse of surprise cats on them
[15:55] <Naugrin> lol
06[15:55] * Tharkis slaps Qulas around a bit with a large trout
06[15:55] * Xislaben rolls a yarn ball in front of Tharkis' skirt
[15:55] <Yinnie> only if you wear a skirt
[15:55] <Beimeith> I already know how to get rid of Surprise Cats, come at me bro
[15:55] <Naugrin> should ask for a port to send him to the vp cat room
[15:55] <synyster> did you just bro me?
[15:56] <Beimeith> That was directed that Tharkis
[15:56] <Beimeith> at Tharkis
[15:56] <synyster> bros scare me... with their white faces and lacross sticks
[15:57] <synyster> and fluffed hair
[15:57] <Beimeith> don't forget the lifted trucks
[15:57] <Yinnie> Tracking AA which only tracks Snow Bunnies
[15:57] <synyster> true
[15:57] <Naugrin> lol...so glad im done w those tasks
[15:57] <Yinnie> I'm just happy I live with a ranger
[15:58] <Shang> Raners need boosts, Yinnie.
[15:58] <Shang> Rangers, too.
[15:58] <Voodoman> eye of zomm boosts?
[15:59] <dfaulter> 1 want an AA to have my eye of zomm levitate 5 feet higher.
[15:59] <Beezy> LOL you can buy the Siren illusion in the marketplace now~
[16:00] <Yinnie> eye in the sky
[16:00] <dfaulter> i couldnt think of a better name for it yinnie
[16:00] <illa> slightly different than the lon siren, she's wearing a lot more clothes
[16:00] <illa> by a lot, i mean a belt
[16:00] <synyster> lol
[16:00] <Tharkis> that's a lot more clothes than the original
[16:00] <Voodoman> i've got it
[16:00] <Voodoman> hero's forge for your eye of zomm
[16:01] <synyster> victory
[16:01] <illa> siren illusion for your eye of zomm, that boosts its swimming skill
[16:01] <synyster> wait
[16:02] <synyster> hardly anything seeinvis
[16:02] <synyster> why not just swim your damn self
[16:02] <illa> because lazy
[16:02] <dfaulter> easier to wait and ask for it with an AA
[16:02] <synyster> true
[16:03] <illa> just wait for a bard to go look
[16:03] <Aiyee> have you smelled him? allegric to water apparently
[16:04] <illa> vah shir? thats your problem
[16:05] <Xislaben> 4why not an AA to let you move your eye of zomm in the Z axis? Think of all the 2nd floor windows you could get into!
[16:05] <Fuvi> right easier to wait and ask for an AA than to farm Aten Ha Ra
[16:06] <Voodoman> eye of aten ha ra
[16:06] <illa> it IS easier to get an aa than find a vt boss up
[16:06] <dfaulter> what if the eye of zomm could go under the world... like the old days where you could fall through the world.
[16:06] <Mykaylla> Xislaben, wouldn't that be Zomm's Eye of Sad Exploitation?
[16:06] <Mykaylla> It would have all of Seru's "special" gear equipped.
[16:07] <illa> combine it with the call of hero zomm
06[16:08] * Mykaylla misses bouncy lev.
[16:08] <Beimeith> Bob was the best
[16:09] <Loratex> me too mykaylla me too
[16:09] <Mykaylla> Don't care that people used it to lev up walls- still miss bouncy lev.
[16:09] <Xislaben> 4id buy bouncy lev AA. 1005% serious
[16:09] <Loratex> can still levi up walls...
[16:09] <illa> i miss being able to spam aon to lev over walls
[16:09] <Loratex> 50 aa for the upgrade
[16:09] <Beimeith> I would buy that AA in a heartbeat
[16:09] <Loratex> so would
[16:09] <Cinexa> why
[16:09] <Jerus> 07<Mykaylla> 02Don't care that people used it to lev up walls- still miss bouncy lev.01.......!!!! YES!!!!
[16:10] <Jerus> i really miss the bouncy
[16:10] <Voodoman> EYE OF BABY JERUS
06[16:10] * Mykaylla agrees with Xislaben
[16:10] <Xislaben> 4amulet of necropotence also with bouncy lev, get anywhere
[16:10] <Loratex> Eye of zomm with bouncy lev??
[16:10] <Loratex> so the eye can breathe underwater?
06[16:10] * Tharkis slaps Loratex around a bit with a large trout
[16:10] <illa> what is it with you people and colors, stop that
[16:11] <Voodoman> eye of colorblindness for illa
[16:12] <Tharkis> 0 i used to write spoiler text like this when talking about movies2
[16:12] <Tharkis> cept that didnt work
[16:12] <Tharkis> was supposed to show up as black text with black backtround =D
[16:12] <Tharkis> so you would have to highlight it to read
[16:14] <synyster> eye of zomm that ae divine rez's?
[16:14] <Tharkis> you mean eye of zerkkin
[16:14] <illa> i use a black background, so t[16:11] <Voodoman> eye of colorblindness for illa
[16:12] <Tharkis> 0 i used to write spoiler text like this when talking about movies2
[16:12] <Tharkis> cept that didnt work
[16:12] <Tharkis> was supposed to show up as black text with black backtround =D
[16:12] <Tharkis> so you would have to highlight it to read
[16:14] <synyster> eye of zomm that ae divine rez's?
[16:14] <Tharkis> you mean eye of zerkkin
[16:14] <illa> i use a black background, so that was just white text for me
01[16:15] <Xnao> zomm op
[16:17] <illa> what if eye of zomm didn't have any textures, played on a pvp server, could kill a player in a second, AND could swim
[16:17] <Xislaben> 4what if zomm was one of us, spun around like some of us
[16:17] <Beimeith> ok, if you want a rundown of what has been asked for for wizards, /join wizard
[16:17] <Noobieguy> lol
[16:17] <Mykaylla> Eye of Rogue?
[16:17] <Beimeith> im back btw
[16:17] <Tharkis> just a stranger on the bus, tryign to make his way home?
[16:18] <Xislaben> 4but he can't even zoooooooooOOOOOooone
[16:18] <Fuvi> end of work day, hopefully someone posts a log so I can read rest of Zomm jokes tonight
[16:18] <Mykaylla> Just a scrykin going nuts, making trout eyes all alone, THarkis
[16:18] <Xeo> lol
06[16:18] * Tharkis eats Mykaylla's trout
[16:18] <dfaulter> dang, does this mean the eye of zomm jokes are done?
[16:18] <Beimeith> id ask that all the wizards join it so everyone knows whats been asked for and as avoid repeat questions
[16:18] <Xeo> dunno why but i thought of a Squid
06[16:19] * Mykaylla smacks Xeo.
[16:19] <Shang> snap
[16:19] <illa> still got a while before eli comes back from lunch
[16:19] <Xeo> Shangop
[16:19] <Shang> shang not OP
[16:20] <Shang> meh, i need a nap. Somene get necros nerfed while I'm afk.
[16:21] <Yinnie> not working for me Beimeith
01[16:21] <Xnao> R.I.P. Fuvi
[16:22] <Beimeith> should be /join Wizard here on irc yinnie
[16:22] <Beimeith> I'm not sure what client you use, but the command should be the same
[16:22] <Tharkis> it's #wizard not wizard
[16:22] <Yinnie> thanks hon
[16:22] <Beimeith> not on my client PKP!
[16:22] <Yinnie> #wizard
[16:22] <Xislaben> 4darn! I thought it was #hogwarts
[16:22] <Tharkis> yes, but the standard IRC convention is all channel names start with a #
[16:23] <Tharkis> so that will work on any client
06[16:23] * Mykaylla sorts Xislaben into Slytherin
[16:23] <Tharkis> seems to me most of the necros would go to slytherin

[16:24] <Mykaylla> ^^
06[16:24] * Xislaben puts a pointy hat on Mykaylla
[16:24] <Tharkis> wonder what house i'd be >_<
[16:24] <Aegrus> no way slytherin is for losers
[16:24] <Tharkis> you're making my point...
[16:24] <Aegrus> whats that one that isn't slytherin or griffindor
06[16:24] * Tharkis ducks!
06[16:24] * Xislaben sorts tharkis into Litterbox
[16:24] <Jerus> hufflepuff!
01[16:24] <Xnao> only ones who would go to slytherin are ones who farm necro aa lists for ideas cuz no imagination
[16:24] <Tharkis> there are 2 others
[16:24] <Jerus> or ravenclaw!
[16:25] <Tharkis> hufflepuff and ravenclaw
[16:25] <Jerus> why would anyone want to go to hufflepuff, such a wimpy name
[16:26] <Tharkis> they're badgers
[16:26] <Aegrus> hufflepuff is where necros would go
[16:27] <Tharkis> Tonks and cedric diggory (before he got turned into a sparkly vampire) were hufflepuff
[16:28] <Jerus> still a wimpy name
[16:29] <Tharkis> wont disagree there
[16:29] <Pirlo> Good afternoon all, Hiya Elidroth
[16:31] <Mykaylla> He's at lunch atm
[16:36] <Beezy> so im working for my uncle right now
[16:36] <Beezy> making letters to send out for mineral options
[16:36] <Beezy> he is paying me 2 dollars per letter
[16:36] <Beezy> it takes him 15-12 minutes per letter to do, i wrote code to do most of it for me, takes me 1-2 minutes per letter
[16:37] <Beezy> gonna be making some nice money lol!
01[16:37] <Xnao> varsity letter?
01[16:37] <Xnao> hooking?
[16:37] <Beezy> haha
06[16:37] * Mykaylla hopes Beezy wasn't sneaking out to a street corner at fan faire
06[16:39] * Mykaylla slaps Tharkis around a bit with a Trout of Zomm
06[16:39] * Tharkis eats the trout, and gets a free endoscopy to boot !
[16:41] <Mykaylla> Eww
[16:43] <synyster> beezy imo send me this code and ill double your profits... then pay me for my time =P
[16:46] <Beezy> rofl
[16:47] <Beezy> 4 hour work day for me, started a 12 PM cst and just finished
[16:47] <Beezy> feelsgoodman
[17:06] <Corvis> dat lunch break
[17:07] <Mykaylla> Don't mess with a burger that is half beef, half bacon, apparently.
[17:07] <illa> guess the burger won
06[17:07] * Naugrin grins
[17:08] <synyster> bacon wrapped bacon burger?
[17:08] <synyster> covered in cheese
[17:08] <Jehmal> with a ham bun?
[17:08] <synyster> donut bun
[17:09] <synyster> glazed donut
[17:09] <Naugrin> you guys ever see the burgers with grilled cheese sandwiches as each half of the bun?.....that just looked deadly lol
[17:10] <Quazit> Just got home from work. Eli still at lunch?
[17:10] <Naugrin> yup
[17:11] <Quazit> Dang, he musta drowned in that burger.. Could have used Eye of Gluttony there..
[17:12] <Aiyee> Eye of Nom?
[17:12] <Beimeith> nice one
[17:12] <Quazit> ^
[17:13] <Mellifleur> lol
[17:14] <Mellifleur> must be a damn good burger
[17:14] <Tharkis> 50% bacon burger... i want one /cry
[17:15] <Aither> food processor check, pound of bacon check, pound of beef check.....
[17:16] <Cinexa> tharkis how's that cholesterol doing?
[17:23] <Jehmal> hrm
[17:24] <Mykaylla> You're early
06[17:25] * MintaRose pop!
[17:25] <Jehmal> I am early, just making sure I have this set up and know how to use it to log and all that
[17:26] <MintaRose> hihi, an' man does reloadin' a UI take awhile, an' what Jehmal just said.
[17:41] <Beimeith> ok serious question, do necromancers get some type of AA that reduces hate on your DoTs, and if so, is this Spell Casting Subelty or something special for DoTs?
[17:42] <Xislaben> 4yes, and it aint that special
[17:42] <Scornfire> just plain ole subtlety
[17:43] <hebejebe> Good Day Everyone!
[17:43] <Beimeith> ah just ScS?
[17:43] <Corvis> yes
[17:43] <Cinexa> there you go
[17:43] <Beimeith> oof
[17:43] <Scornfire> So, you guys have asked for an aa to increase the proc chance of Chaotic Power already aye?
[17:43] <Beimeith> no wonder your aggro sucks so bad
[17:44] <Xislaben> 4i never bothered purchasing scs
[17:44] <Cinexa> where do necros post this log?
[17:44] <hebejebe> shows to be necro and wiizy there cinexa thank you
[17:45] <Cinexa> yep it is - but usually the class posts it some where
[17:45] <Shang> Don't answer Beimeith's questions, they lead to him attempting to get you nerfed.
[17:45] <Cinexa> it started this morning hebe - 10am pst i think
[17:45] <Beimeith> No one has been trying to nerf anyone today shang
[17:45] <Beimeith> thanks for playing
[17:46] <Shang> nice joke.
[17:47] <Beimeith> My Swimming Eye of Zomm sees what you did there
[17:48] <Xeo> does ur eye of zomm wear goggles?
[17:48] <hebejebe> good eveing shadowbile ltns old friend
[17:48] <Reht> then you could add AA for farsighted swimming eye
[17:48] <Aither> no xeo it has two sets of eyelids
[17:48] <Mykaylla> Trout of Zomm has no need of goggles
[17:48] <MintaRose> I GOTTA tinker one of those
[17:48] <Pirlo> lol trout of zomm
06[17:48] * MintaRose catches a clockwork koi an' sets to work
[17:50] <MintaRose> an' nope, SCS is all us neatos get an' I think SCS is for people without FD (our tanks may disagree)
[17:51] <Beimeith> For the record, I was asking about it because our one DoT (Pyromancy) had its damage doubled, and now the aggro from it is , so I was curious if you had a special type of reduction we could ask for
[17:51] <Forcallen> dots are always huge aggro
[17:52] <Aiyee> dots, the agro that keeps on giving
[17:52] <MintaRose> oh,you're a wizzy. . .an' no, we aren't holdin' anything back in that department, it's all FD
[17:52] <Beimeith> Yes I am Wizard
06[17:52] * MintaRose enjoyed Sanctum Somnium 6 immensely
06[17:52] * Beimeith puts on his Robe and Wizard's Hat.
[17:53] <Elenwyyi> beimeith = blood ninja... it all makes sense now.
06[17:53] * Mykaylla wonders when the rhinoceros is going to show up.
[17:53] <Beimeith> oof
[17:53] <Beimeith> I have level 100 eroticism, thank you
[17:53] <Jehmal> Maybe an aggro reduction isn't the way to go.. maybe necros need an aggro transfer.. like rogues misdirection, so you can send the aggro to thetank
[17:54] <MintaRose> ooooo
[17:54] <MintaRose> they'd like that
[17:54] <hebejebe> ok so are we talking about the AA's for necros and wizards
[17:54] <MintaRose> as they're always having to get the aggro back from me anyway
[17:54] <Naugrin> if you mean how we ask for stuff......we have been going back and forth for the most part
06[17:54] * MintaRose has learned to back off if the "This is Not the Gnome you are Looking For" hotkey gets pressed by the MT too many times per night
[17:55] <Xeo> i'd send all my agro to Beimeith
[17:56] <Mykaylla> Wrapped in a bow?
[17:56] <MintaRose> Ohh...Actual serious request: Will the targetable ability be returned to Reluctant Benevolence? I did enjoy being able to pass it to another group if we had someone in our own group *cough*negligentdruids*cough* overwriting it and not listening to pleas to turn it off.
[17:56] <hebejebe> I would really like to see a AA starting at 25% working up 5% every rank on agro transfer that would be awesome
[17:56] <hebejebe> something like the rogues misdirect
[17:56] <Cinexa> oh lol
[17:56] <Mellifleur> block the spell on you
[17:56] <Cinexa> i'd guess that may not happen
[17:57] <Mellifleur> tell the group to block it, those who did not died for stupidity
[17:57] <Xeo> i'd be happy to share that AA with all finger wiglers
[17:57] <MintaRose> RB can stay single-target and not reset the AA timer (THANK YOU FOR THAT) and all that
[17:57] <Cinexa> but you can ask!
06[17:57] * Cinexa doesn't wiggle any fingers thank you very much
06[17:58] * Cinexa they make wands for that
[17:58] <MintaRose> not even a one-finger salute to the mobs?
06[17:58] * Cinexa wonders where Eli went for lunch
[17:58] <Cinexa> occasionally
[17:58] <Xeo> middle?
[17:58] <Naugrin> to get a 50/50 burger, half beef, half bacon, so most likely in the cardiac wing of the hospital atm
[17:58] <Xeo> rofl
[17:58] <Reht> hope all that beef and bacon didnt do him in
[17:59] <Mellifleur> lol@naug
[17:59] <Naugrin> the funny thing is even typing that im thinking of him with jealously
[17:59] <Naugrin> jealousy even
[17:59] <Forcallen> dont forget we still have the post 50/50 meal break yet to come as well!
[17:59] <Reht> i don't know, it sounds good, but has to be really salty with all that bacon
[18:00] <Naugrin> hmm didnt think of the saltiness
[18:00] <Mykaylla> He said at the outset that it would be a really long lunch
[18:00] <Mykaylla> And he'd run overtime
[18:00] <Aither> not all bacons are equal, you can get lower sodium bacon
[18:00] <Reht> that's not bacon then, that's just fatty ham
[18:01] <Xeo> could murder a bacon sammich right now
[18:01] <Reht> yeah man
[18:01] <Pirlo> lol
[18:01] <MintaRose> ohyeah, lunch
[18:01] <Xeo> wash it down with some ice cold coke
[18:04] <Mykaylla> Hi Ngreth
[18:07] <Forcallen> reht lets play a game
[18:07] <Forcallen> tell my your next aa request
[18:07] <Forcallen> me
[18:18] <@Elidroth> and I'm back
[18:19] <Xeo> welcome back
[18:19] <@Elidroth> Sorry that took so long..

[18:19] <Forcallen> he lived
[18:19] <deadgnomewalkin> welcome back
[18:19] <@Elidroth> artists went with us, and they started drinking
[18:19] <Mykaylla> How was your burger?
[18:19] <Forcallen> thought the 50/50 had won
[18:19] <Aegrus> welcome back!
[18:19] <Naugrin> welcome back Eli
[18:19] <@Elidroth> I'm hurting
[18:19] <@Elidroth> lol
[18:19] <Corvis> it's ok. i'm sure you were think a lot about our AAs while you were away
[18:19] <Aegrus> lol those drunken artists, explains alaran models
[18:19] <@Elidroth> I had a 2/3rd pound 50/50
[18:19] <Naugrin> lol good lord
[18:19] <@Elidroth> that's 2/3 pound AFTER cooking btw
[18:19] <Tharkis> sounds glorious
[18:20] <Pirlo> Hello Elidroth. I logged in while you were on lunch. Thank you for having the AA chat
[18:20] <Tharkis> ... where can i get one?!
[18:20] <@Elidroth> ok.. let's get back to it
[18:20] <Aither> does that come with a large drano as a drink to clear the artierial blockage?
[18:20] <Forcallen> NECRO - Extended Darkness, increase the duration of encroaching darkness, AA snare.
[18:20] <@Elidroth> no.. but I got an Oreo Cookie shake to go with it
[18:20] <Beimeith> There were a few unanswered questions to said to put on hold Eli
[18:21] <Pirlo> As a Wizard, if you need a TL to the doctor after your hamburger, I will do it , I will even waive the fee
[18:21] <Beimeith> Naugrin asked for an AA version of our level 70 spell Ice Block
[18:21] <Beimeith> Yinnie asked if you would remove the fade from A Hole in Space AA
[18:21] <@Elidroth> you guys were a chatty bunch.. scrolled all the previous stuff off of my chat buffer

Lunch time was the best for this one, again.

Still say we need cows in EQ so the hamburger can be added to tradeskills!

Thankee much for posting. I had to stop reading when I saw Eli say that swarm pets were visible dots though, every time I see that stated, all I see is red, I get so angry.

If swarm pets really are meant to only be visible dots, please remove PUSH from them, don't let them receive damage or get killed due to AE, DS, or melee or spell damage of any type. Because, as we all know... DOTS don't do these things.

I'll make this easy for my fellow Wizards and give the cliffnotes version

Requester - Request = Elidroth response

Fuvi - Healing Adept = No, Wizards don’t heal
Fuvi - Healing Gift = No, Wizards don't heal
Fuvi - Affliction Mastery = No, Wizards don't DoT
Fuvi - Destructive Cascaste = No, Wizards don't DoT

Naugrin - Spell Casting Sublety = Probably yes, but the line is almost finished.
Naugrin - Silent Casting = No, no more room
Naugrin - Concussive Intuition = Yes, another rank
Naugrin - Hastened concussive Inuition = Yes, not sure how much

Beimeith - Quick Damage 5 = Yes, was already going to give because druids
Beimeith - Hastened Fury of X = Yes, "a little"

Elenwyyi - Ethereal Invisibility = Maybe

Xeonje - Elemental Flux Staff as AA = Maybe? (I'm not sure if that was for this)

Beimeith - Damage Adept (like healing adept for damage) = Maybe, "Interesting idea, will look into it"

Fuvi - Teleport to 2nd Bind = No, "changes to ports are in the works"

Naugrin - Gate to group member = No, never ever ever

Elenwyyi - Planeshift: Ethereal / Material = No, because they are template Aas

Fuvi - Keramancy (Combination of 'Mancy lines) = No
Fuvi - Glyphs? = No, no glyphs

Beimeith - Change Improved Familiar to stack with Druid Black Wolf = Maybe, "Not against it"
Beimeith - More Improved Familiar = Maybe, "Perhaps"

Fuvi - Remove hit counter on Sustained Destruction = No, it has a counter for a reason

Outlawz - Stop Secondary recall collapsing - Can't, hardcoded

Fuvi - Eye of Zomm that can swim = No, "Are you serious?" (Maybe if he wants to troll)

Xeo - Add 5% damage Mod from ISD to PD = No, they are different on purpose

Naugrin - AA Iceblock = Maybe

Yinnie - Remove shadowstep from fade = Maybe, "I guess"

Xeonje - Arcane Fury (Wizard form of Natures Fury) = No

Beimeith - AA form of Dispel = Maybe, "Not sure"

Pirlo - Reduce hate on Pyromancy = Maybe, "I'll look at it"
Pirlo - More Destructive fury = No
Pirlo - Proc to reduce aggro = No, already talked about aggro stuff
Pirlo - Extended Silent Casting = No
Pirlo - Fire/Ice version of Force of Will = No, but maybe once he talks to Aristo first
Pirlo - Arcomancy changed to only help Wizards = No
Pirlo - New Crit damage AA = No, but maybe upgrade existing one
Pirlo - Add hate reduction to Cryomancy = No, stop asking about aggro reduction
Pirlo - Damage on Snare = No, unless the damages breaks the snare

Beimeith - Extra range on Force of Will = No, its far enough already

Arkeal - Buff up Ward of destruction = No, its free damage

Cinexa - Kick AA = He kicked ME from the chat, wtf?

Naugrin - Instant cast abscond = No
Naugrin - Tonic Mastery, more damage from tonics = No, they can't be focused

Axxius - Wizard Embalmers Carapace/PD combo = Maybe, "Not a bad idea, might reduce proc amount"

Pirlo - More damage on Furies = Maybe
Pirlo - Make Dimensional Shield not suck (more -hate, more duration, damage mitigation) = Maybe, "Will look into an upgrade"
Pirlo - Short duration 50% haste = Maybe? "Can be done, do I think it’s a good idea?"

Naugrin - More fortified entanglement = Yes, 1 more rank

Beimeith - Snare to Beam of Displacement, take off damage = Maybe, and No

Pirlo - Lesser version of Improved Twincast = No
Pirlo - Instant PoK port = No, no ports until new things announced

Beimeith - Debuff to Increase damage for ethereals = Maybe, needs to ask Aristo, might be given to another class to provided synergy

Pirlo - Hastened Force of Will = No, 12s is fast enough

Naugrin - Giant 1 proc focus = Probably, "Was thinking of something like that"
Naugrin - Hastened Beam of displacement = No, he likes it where it is
Naugrin - Free Target Shadowstep = No, Can't be done

Beimeith - Higher Proc rate on GoM line = No, "I thought Wizards were good on mana?"

Naugrin - Proc DA/Fade when taken to 15% hp by melee = No, Can't tell between melee and spell damage

Beimeith - More crit % on PD (to help groupers) = Maybe, "We'll see"


Additional notes:

I need a burger that is 50% hamburger and 50% bacon.
Porting system has things in the works.
Rez effects system has things in the works.
Aggro system may be looked at to see if it needs systemic changes.
Other things for Wizards are in the works.

[14:37] <Elenwyyi> short duration long recast survivability and situation specific, but as druids say, fair enough™

That made me laugh