you...you nerfherder

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by MikeyGeeMan, Jan 30, 2015.

  1. MikeyGeeMan

    For people that complain about nerfs and buffs.

    Just a suggestion. How about instead of spending time on composing a long post about how a weapon was nerfed or buffed with .0000000001 increase in a stat, you actually just adapt and overcome

    Rule 1 of fps : Complaints are inversely proportional to skill. The more you whine the the less skill you have
    Rule 2 of fps: 50% of the players think they are in the top 10%.
    Rule 3 of fps: Theory rafting is great for Minecraft. Learning how to shoot, that's for fpses.
    Rule 4 of fps: Adapt and overcome

    Its easy, a weapon gets nerfed you adapt. Just because a weapon change alters the style in which a weapon can be used effectively doesn't mean its useless, it means you need to figure out how to change yourself. Don't change the game to suit your style, but change it to make it more fun.

    And lastly I blame every single whiner and crybaby in the forum for the games current state. Than you for taking something I enjoy and turning it on its head. Without you, we could have 6 continents, 15 vehicles, more weapons and gadgets maybe even mecha.

    But since you decided to open to your big mouth and whine, the devs have worked on placating your tears and have focused less on features.

    So again thanks for making the game it is today.
    Less tears most features.

    And for the devs, stop listening to us. You think Steve jobs made the iPhone based on what people wanted, no he found the right mix and put forward his vision. We don't have vision, we just play. Don't listen to us and go for the gold.
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  2. Tommyp2006

    Blaming the consumer is rarely a valid argument for a failed project, it's usually due to mismanagement.
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  3. MikeyGeeMan

    But when your invited to be a collaborator. Your input defines the product.

    Devs should have focused on their vision. People cone and go, trying to hold on to a fickle user base is horrible, just let them go and new players excited about a fresh vison would come...

    Instead we catered to people that just decided to leave the game altogether.
  4. BobSanders123

    Without complainers we would be living in a world full of harassers dominating the ground, liberaters ruling the skies, strikers dictating the nogo zones, and AV MANA turrets trolling armor from 9000 meters away.

    Also, I would like to share with you some of the rules that might have slipped your mind.

    Rule 22.1 of fps: Rules 1 through 4 are made up and not to be trusted.
    Rule 812 of fps: Anyone can make up rules.
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  5. DramaticExit

    Ah, there we go. The Holy "I am right and you are wrong" Trinity.

    It basically reads like this:

    "I learned how to use X weapon set. It was changed and now I don't know how to use it any more. Therefore I am upset. As a result of being upset, I will lay the blame at the feet of those who pointed out that using the gear I used was too easy."

    The crybaby and whiner thing goes both ways. Balance will change. It is not static. Sometimes, stuff you like gets changed. When it changes, you just gotta suck it up and move on.

    You tell people to adapt and overcome, but you are completely failing to do so yourself.
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  6. Reclaimer77

    I'll let you in on a little secret: Developing games isn't about hand-crafting a work of art. The Devs "vision" is to make a profit and keep their jobs. They can't afford to have a cavalier attitude about people quitting their game.
  7. Tommyp2006

    The player base they got is the fate they chose when they decided to go F2P. This is their cross to bear
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  8. MarvinGardens

    They would probably make more money if they just kept releasing counters to weapons, instead of nerfing them. OHK headshots from the new sniper rifle got you down? Here's a new armor mod, helmet! Now you don't have to worry about those pesky snipers. Phoenix missile OHK'ing you? Upgrade your Flack Jacket to the next level and explosives will just tickle you. C4 fairies got you down? Now Mine Guard is renamed explosive guard and now applies to C4(but not rockets). Good luck winning a tank battle though... That way you can control what is killing you, and no matter what you eventually get killed by, it's your own fault because you didn't spec your loadout to protect against that type of damage.
  9. Tommyp2006

    But that would require them to actually implement new things instead of adjusting numbers. That's more work. They've said many times that they do things the way they do simply because it's easier.
  10. MarvinGardens

    Dang those lazy devs. Why can't they work harder with all the money I've been throwing at them? Too many people playing for free in this F2P game? :p
  11. Tululaboo

    I think that logicly people who are used to fps either it be on pc or console have written themselves into the habit of doing what the real world teaches which is to aim for the largest part of the body aka the chest. This works great on pretty much all fps until that is you reach PS2. It is a habit I have had to break. The weapons accross the board do seem to be balanced well but there is a few things you can do to help your aim. Headshots are the clinchers in this game, you gotta try and aim for the crits.

    First, practice in the VR trainging
    Second, practice long range ( I do not mean at the back of the range, I mean walk off into the VR field and practice)
    Third, check the recoil, work out the point where it become unmanagable and where the recoil takes you.
    Fourth, use the recoil to your advantage, small vertical recoil means you can aim at the chest which then leads up to the head hitting the crit spot.
    Fith, softpoint ammo if you can to increase damage at range.
  12. player16

    Is like the striker it was so awesome i would had put that under my pillow to sleep with because it allowed me to destroy enemy army and planes with lolpods and just have a plain infantry fight... the Valkyrie was it, yes i have destroyed tanks with it! Nerf the.... in retaliation!
  13. MikeyGeeMan

    Facts are facts people.

    X amount of resources can do y amount of work.

    Do you want them to expand content or buff and nerf?

    Choose and choose wisely. I prefer more content.

    Its nit the game that is broken, its the whiners and criers.

    Please stop whining and let them create content.

    No more buffs or nerfs....we want more content.
  14. FateJH

    The next part of the machine needed gears to be completed. The shop delivered gears but they did not fit into the mechanism very well. The machine worked, but degraded slowly, and underperformed. We sent specifications back to the shop but then did not tool the gears properly again. The new gears spun too freely and the machine wore itself down. When then axle broke, we stopped everything to fix it, and ordered new gears yet again.

    tl;dr: Content that doesn't work can only ever be as good as not having the content.
  15. Veph

    Yeah, sure, lets make the game even more pay2win...I agree on the stop suggesting nonsense thing and I dont see why I'd have less permission to say that as a rather bad player than ones who keep on whining and whining, usually for being bad. If anything I'd be the type to ask for ridiculous buffs/nerfs with my stats, but this endless (un)balancing is a waste of time, money, nerves and wont ever make me indeed a better player. I'd just find the next thing to whine about because boohoo epeen.
    There should be other things...many other things with significantly higher priority on the devs lists than worrying about weapon stats as they are right now.
  16. MikeyGeeMan

    Say it with me people

    We want more content.
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  17. Liewec123

    i think people complain because SoE don't seem to have a clue what they're doing :)

    people complain about vulcan harrasser one clipping MBTs?
    SoE buff every single tanks HP by 30% making tanks now OP to all of the other AV,
    rather than just lowering the damage of the one weapon that was the cause of the problem.

    people complain that ZoE is hilariously OP? SoE nerf it to utter uselessness rather than balancing it.

    its easy to see wh people complain.

    but honestly, people complaining is a sign that they care about the game,
    if they weren't passionate about it then they wouldn't be here.
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  19. JustBoo

    You've clearly failed to understand reality. If the SOE crew attempted that, 4 out of the 6 continents would be stone-cold dead. 11 of the 15 vehicles would eject you to the moon and the other 4 would explode from running over a bump. And instead of moar-better weapons, we'd have 9000 clown masks and a headless horsemen (don't ask me Pal) instead of "mecha." Whatever the heck that is.

    Enjoy.

    Now back to what SOE does want. More and copious Forumside suggestions to confuse and distract people from the real systemic problems.

    Enjoy X 2.
  20. MarvinGardens

    Dang ZOE. It's the simplest(and laziest on SOE's part) MAX ability, just giving a damage/speed buff and a minor armor debuff. Wish they made more MAX abilities beside the faction specific one and charge. They just seem so...plain. Think Harmony Gold would sue if the Vanu MAX ability was to transform into a one man ATV with both arm weapons mounted?