Will vs get some massive buffs now with the massive underpop

Yeah cause that's the only application of strafing. If you really think that uncle Robertoooo would gladly share his wisdom with Vixxing
A bit more turret elevation like the other two tanks won't save you from a decent pilot that knows better than to hover right in front of you.

If you go by numbers, the 200 dmg weapons still need more buffs and things like blueshifts and h-v45s need nerfs. things like the ol' orion would look like it was put into the dirt and beat up if it actually got balanced too.

the "my CoF/bloom is really small" faction ******** about OP things is always funneh. putting half a mag out without having to control it or burst fire is commonly mistaken for accuracy, and then people drop things like "our faction trait is accuracy." so its akin to asking when can i get my faction trait of being OP? its on the same level of ... wut.

i think its a little case of striker-ism too--youve had the best toys for so long you cant comprehend actually having something closer to a fair fight and not 1 size fits all, which is closer to complaining to higgles because your training wheels arent as shiny as they once were

Maybe not, but it will save you from a lot of scrubs, AND give you at least a fighting chance... Why should both TR and NC have something that VS dont have?

Except that the bullets amazingly go where you aim... unlike TR guns. I love how you guys always ignore this and when it's brought up you poo-poo it or say bullet drop doesn't matter.
No bullet drop is awesome on small arms.
Tighter CoF, bloom, and lower recoil is freaking amazing.

Look VS could use some love; magrider is trash compared to vanguard for example. But lets not try to make up issues where none exist. VS small arms are pretty damn good overall with only a few exceptions. Unlike TR where most are crap and you really only have a few to choose from to be competitive.

My Main is TR, I love our assault rifles. We have a nice variety of them. VS Assault Rifles aren't bad, they just suffer from the TR Carbine problem of being all kind of samey.

Look at the numbers, what you're saying just isn't true.

Looking at the population sites PS2 gained a LOT of players with (or just after) the PU2 patch, the total number of players grew quite a lot, and NC went from 33% world pop to 36% world pop (across all servers) - I'm not sure 3% is a "major imbalance", it is certainly a slight imbalance though, but again a LOT more people are playing now than were playing under a totally dominant TR (as it was for most of 2013).

Eugh, it's late and I don't have the heart for a whole rebuttal... Can someone please explain to the OP that VS aren't underperforming statistically, and using population as a measure of faction balance is simply nonsense, especially when there are servers where his personal experience does not mirror the norm...

And further, can they explain that ZOE didn't get nerfed because VS was overpopulated, it got nerfed because it was overperforming, and that this was completely justified because balance > faction population?

Cheers.

Can you actually read and understand it?

Population should never be a factor in how weapons are adjusted.

The VS problem was the had a large 4th faction population, which left them.

Remember guys, a single guy whining on the forums does not represent their faction.
I'm ashamed of the thought that he plays for the same faction as me

The worst part about this thread is people are agreeing with OP.

Something for challange? for our outfits TARC/V right?

It is flippant comments like this mate that, although well meaning, make any valid argument that is trying to be made null and void. That is simply a random number pulled out of the air.

I'm not disagreeing with you regarding Mag vs air by the way.

Better elevation coupled with our manoeuvrability will allow us to (have more of a chance to) shoot back without having to overly count on the luck of the terrain though. At the moment decent pilots can take advantage of a massive disparity in Magrider effective elevation vs the other two factions. That isn't balanced.

Oh I remember, former Helios here, and we're still consistently the lowest population after the Connery merge, although not nearly as bad as it was.

Well then why can the Magrider climb on top of hills that TR and NC tanks can only dream of?

It's called asymmetric balance. Sometimes it means the other factions have the ability to do things you can't do. Deal with it.

True perhaps but when regarding which faction to play though atm people weigh up ES stuff.

For NC:
Jackhammer- Good (best shotty)
Phoenix- Good (can hit things out of LOS and from spawn room, insta kill mana and damage infantry)
Desperado- Good (insane DPS)
Aegis- Good (in that people actually use it)
Enforcer- Good
Invul Shield- Good
Canister- BROKEN
Railjack- Bad

For TR:
MCG- Bad (just another LMG but with a spin up time, making it worse)
Striker- BROKEN
Inquisitor- Bad (just a bad emperor)
Lockdown- BROKEN (its a joke)
Vulcan- BROKEN
Anchor Mode- Good (huzzah!)
Marauder- BROKEN
TRAP- Good (depending on who you ask)

I cant speak for VS because I dont play as them but atm there is no real reason to choose TR over NC as NC is a safer bet.
Hopefully the April balance pass will help patch TR up.
Some of the members in my outfit are usually playing NC atm before the balance pass just because most of their gear is good and usable.

I play VS and here is my take: Just read the lore.

VS are select academic individuals (scientists) who got caught in crossfire with TR and NC.
So they don't have much man power or good firepower.
Happy?

Ill do the VS part!
Lasher- mediocre
Lancer- Broken
Cerberus- Bad
ZOE-broken
Saron- Good
Magburner- Good
Proton PPA- Good
Phaseshift- Good

How is the Lancer broken????????????????????????????????????????????