Will vs get some massive buffs now with the massive underpop

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by jaktrobot, Apr 3, 2014.

  1. ManualReplica

    Remember when this exact thread was posted almost daily by NC players for over 6 months and no one cared?

    Yeah.
    Man up guys.
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  2. ThuddenBlunder

    You may want to check out a few sites that show PS2 population before calling anyone ignorant. 'Massive' overpop does not seem to be indicated.
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  3. Nerp

    nah bro
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  4. z1967

    Considering that he/she/Vanu plays on Mattherson, yeah I think it would be fair to say that they are probably american.
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  5. Turkeys!

    A whine thread deserves no more than a one-liner, n'wah.
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  6. jaktrobot


    So before pu2 everything was down to personal taste aswell, ppl didnt like to play Zoe, or what are u saying? Ofc ppl play whats op atm, and again hence why ppl play nc, it got nothing to do with personal taste, well maybe after all opness is maybe a personal taste when i think about it.

    We are closer then ever u say, so thats why nc is sitting on 40% pop on most server u say? There is a correlation between pop and whats is op atm, look at a game as world of warcraft for example. Pppl will reroll a class which is op at the momenet rather then playing something they think is fun, cause after all beeing op is fun.
  7. Nody

    Not many people are disputing that VS require some tweaks (as does the other factions in certain areas) but what's not needed is a whole sale buffing everything +20% damage. No, what's needed is AV weapons should have their AI damage reduced by at least 50% accross the board (MAX, Infantry, Tanks and planes) to ensure you have to bring the right gun to the fight rather then one size fits all (Pounders, Rocket pods etc.).

    Then have a look at how all MAX weapons are performing (not only VS) because having the most accurate weapon (arguably I'd say NC as they can change direction on their but what ever) does not really help once you got big shiny lightening balls moving slowly and giving you an easy target, same for AI for TR (I'm not playing enough TR AI MAX to say what needs to be fixed) etc. MBTs are already coming this month so I'll exclude them for now but once again have a look at the infantry weapons to see if there are any glaring issues (once again accross the board and not only VS).

    Seperatly to this the population benefits needs to be looked at. SoE don't want negative benefits (i.e. don't punish a guy who only plays one side) so positive benefits only. Reduced (10% / percent below 30% global pop) vehicle cooldown and resource cost (20% per percent below, 25% pop? Free vehicles, go nuts) and insanely increased passive cert gain (not exp but certs because good players can already farm with +50% where as the new guy who thinks of quitting will care about the certs he gets) while online. Now suddenly there's a great reason to play on that low pop faction (cheap/free vehicles and really good passive cert gain, talking 50+ per hour) rather then logg off and call it a night. Oh and the cert gain only works when you're alive AND outside of the warp gates (to reduce the botting, nothing will ever completly remove it).
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  8. jaktrobot


    @ work atm and can only see text but i guess u referring to his banner, either way it is irrelevant.
  9. Nerp

    NC is not OP. Neither is TR or VS. NC is just really appealing because FREEDURHMMSAASDASDASAZZZ.

    VS is appealing enough and NC is just too over appealing. TR is kind of lack luster though. Our guns sound the same ( Aside from carbines now, which are awesome ), and overall the weapon variety is meh. Also, our description makes us sound like we're the bad guys, so noobs don't pick us.
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  10. jaktrobot

    I am trying to be constructive, but if u see it as a whine thread why do u read or even reply to it at all.
  11. PlayerOneSVK

    Personally leaving VS cos its weakest and underpop Population going to play NC cos Highby playing there and it will be most OP faction in game... So just delete VANU.. no point have i there... All time NS weapons... Nothing is faction specific... only NS.... So make Blue and Red teamdeatchmatch
  12. Kriegson

    Yep, the usual
    X: "Y is op, nerf Y!"
    Z: "Yeah nerf Y!"
    -post nerf-

    Y: "Dude that nerf screwed us over."
    X: "Seems fine to me, l2p noob!"
    Z: "Lol u so bad zerg, no 1 cares!"


    Devs: "Well 2/3 of the playerbase agree on the issue so clearly this was the right decision."
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  13. z1967

    From looking at this chart thingy here
    VS has indeed been the lowest pop globally, which seems to be the trend after the announcement of the Great April Balance Pass. So perhaps the VS also need to be included in the GABP, too. MAX weapons and Infantry weapons should probably be the primary focus of the VS side of the patch if anything at all. NC is fine, as shown by the larger pops.

    But then again, balancing off of population data is bound to end in disaster. Got to be careful not to accidentally overbuff/nerf anything.
  14. Prudentia

    yep. tough i need new popcorn. see you later.
  15. Nody

    That's conservative if anything if you attend one of the regular VS nightclubs...
  16. Fangry

    Not many use JH cause everyone that used it already have their Auraxiums
  17. doombro

    I think u need 2 git out m8
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  18. Latrodectus


    10/10, best bait 5ever
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  19. Koldorn

    Just reevaluate the comets in the april balance pass.
    They were adjusted down to account for ZOE's 20-45% damage boost (calculated differently per weapon, effective at all ranges) and were not returned to their original value when ZOE was reduced. (15-20% flat, only up to 10m)

    Buff comets 2014.
    Seriously though; I don't think the MAXs weapons should be balanced based on the assumption that you are running a specific ability; and fighting within a specific distance (that the crabmax isn't supposed to operate in, in the first place)
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  20. jaktrobot

    Yeah man its really stupid, totally agreee with u.