I don't see what so bad about what I said. I mean, I'm a guy that likes tanks. The trouble of having to go around and sneak behind a tank is more seems difficult than either hitting it with rockets or using another tank.
Sure you like tanks, that's fine. Your post was structured as if you were attempting to sell everyone the idea that Infantry Discounts are pointless.
Don't get me wrong, they aren't pointless. They just aren't as useful as having a discount on a tank column. If I were to write a dissertation on the Terran Republic, it would be that when it comes to capturing territory, armor is just about required in order to handle any circumstances, in addition to a well structured team. Think about it: Prowlers with Anti-Vehicle Weapons (Vulcan, AP, Ranger) Prowlers with Anti-Infantry Weapons (HE, Kobalt) Sunderers with all types of guns Skygaurds and Anti-Tank Lightnings. I don't know about you, but I think a well deployed/armed group of tanks can do a lot more damage.
I just hope that with the merger we have our battles EVERYWHERE again. You TR are fun to combat and it's even more fun when all three factions are spilling blood everywhere, not just Indar. Don't be so down, you've still got numbers, I feel for the VS, they've grown small, their numbers believing the fiction on the forums and worrying about stats instead of trying to adapt.YES, I know how great the Prowler can be when used, as on Sol-Tech that is where I wear red, but the Jaeg is my home and soon it will be gone, replaced by Waterson, which I will accept and am really hopeful that things change. Hang in there, I think we're going to be fine.
For the most part, We (VS) do fine with low pop 90% of the time. We just play harder. The fourth-empire guys can stay wherever else they want to be.
I was about to say the same thing. With the quality VS outfits on Waterson+Jaeger, I do believe the TR and NC with have their hands full.
Okay, I play VS and TR on Jeager mostly (NC elsewhere). VS have been underdogs in terms of pop for quite a while, especially since the last big patch -- it is not unusual to log in and see 25% VS, 30-40% TR and 30-40% NC. Every. Single. Day. One huge thing I've noticed when I play TR is the utter lack of competent Anti-Air defense. Last night we pushed a huge blob on Indar all the way to Mao Tech in the NE corner and sacked it (fighting off VS from the south, amusingly enough!) but the entire time the NC were mercilessly gunning us down from the air. Yes, I realize we were near their warpgate but the same Reavers and Libs would come by again and again spending 10-30 seconds over the battle space with little or no AA to make them at least buzz off for a while. This went on continuously after we moved back to the SW towards the Palisades area. This almost never happens when I play VS as there are many who carry Annihilators or use burster Maxes. Planes still fly in and do damage but almost never do you have a single Reaver empty his rocket pods over a VS force of any size because of regular lockons and AA fire. The difference between the two sides in this regards are vast, and very puzzling to me. The other area I notice TR failing at is coordination. I don't belong to any outfit (though I will squad / platoon up when I want to) and it just seems like each platoon / outfit is simply doing its own thing without giving a thought to the overall picture -- even on Indar! Twice last night while I was playing TR blobs were fighting at Allatum / TI / Crown while the NC pushed to and took over Hvar and we lost our tank production. The VS had less than half of our numbers but they pushed all the way from the east to Ceres Farms next to our gate! I wasn't on /leader but there was very little in the way of communication via /orders channel (mostly "Need help at <some place no one wants to help with>" type messages). At least as VS I can vacation on Esamir and/or Amerish to build back up my infantry resources (damn my AT / C4 / AP habits) but as TR I can rarely do this since anything other than Indar is typically in a worse state and there is precisely zero coordination anywhere but... Indar. Hope things are different tomorrow after the merge.
You're argument is all over the place now, pick a side. This post tells me a lot about you - well mostly confirms what I had thought of you.
Gotta say I'm actually surprised you mentioned FHGP for VS considering we're lucky field a squad of our own members during prime time most nights. Most of the members are pilots, so maybe that's why you recognize the guild tag? Anyway, kudos! Also agree those saying opposing factions aren't organized is ignorance in its finest....more so if the speakers come the side that can easily overwhelm their opponents. PS : It's not fun ghost caping placing on Esamir/Amerish for resources. NC at least will show up to fight there against VS. Need a VS/NC bycott of Indar month...less Indarside!
Not really. Annhilator spam effectively solves armor, and is unable to be countered. Furthermore if you look at it from a resource standpoint, infantry resource discount is far more useful then other discounts because using C4 has no timer. I have used 10 C4s in 1 minute ( to destroy 3 separate sunderers and 1 vanguard tank). I cannot use 3 prowlers in 1 minute. I like many players have a subscription. I can count the number of times on one hand that i've been unable to pull a vehicle due to resources and not timer constraints. By comparison, I have run out of special infantry weapons before, and have had to sit in the warpgate afk to 'stock up' for an hour or more. AV grenades, Concussive grenades, Flashbangs, Tank mines, and C4 are expensive. Not to mention pulling a MAX suit every so often. I think people disregard the value of infantry resources discounts because they do not bother to cert heavily in special grenades or C4 and tank mines. As for the thread, NC appears to be clearly the most organized in terms of active players participating in outfit battles. They have a better relationship between each outfit on average as well. VS have many veteran players due to the higher EXP they receive and the fact that if you always play outnumbered, you end with better players on average because the others leave. TR was the zerg faction of the server, and frankly it is not working anymore because the NC regularly have 4-5% more population then us, unlike the earlier days of Jaeger when we consistently had 8% on them. Do not worry. We are adjusting .
Yeah, FHGP has most, if not all of the VSs greatest pilots it seems. Had to throw the name in there since you guys sure make a hell of a difference for the VS when it comes to air cover.
You guys bashing [TRAF] are kind of ignorant. As an NC and a member of [ETHOS] I can honestly say that no other outfit throws a wrench in our gears like they do. If anyone stops us 9 out of 10 times it is [TRAF].
The trail of tears. Really about 90% of HSTL defenses can be pointed out for beating the NC with infantry more then vehicles. Only a few of our strategies involve tank or air power.
all anyone does is bash traf. guess waterson revolves around traf and tr since you guys do nothing but complain again and again
The Jaeger TR are pretty dang good especially TRAF, BRSN, TT6, HSTL. I mean eariler today TRAF guys held a base that was right in front of the NC Warpgate, they held it for atleast 10-15 mins before the swarm came down on them. Don't know why you'd point out TRAF being the main problem for the TR making mistakes -- which I hardly see.
