Why the Fracture is overpowered

This is why I said ZOE is not the best MAX right now
For an AV weapons who can kill infantry and MAX that fast in a doorway
Not even the supposedly "OP" ZOE, all TR keep whining about doesn't even stand a chance
It's good coz the video is showing against ZOE, if it's showing against NC then maybe that video will take like 30 minutes before the TR MAX died

Don't forget fracture reload very fast, kill very fast, and hav godly accuracy ( I believe it's 0.3 while crouching, dancing and everything else and does that thing have bloom?? )
You don't see what happens on the other end of the room right?? Well I can tell you all of their screen are shaking like hell and probably give them a headache ( That's why some of them already charge inside without thinking clearly )

It's an AV weapons which shoot fast and hard against everything is an absolute beast and should be considered OP
And as always...
So many TR players still claiming their fracture is not OP
and they wonder why so many hatred against TR

Well I looked at this video.
All of the Fracture MAXes targets are pretty much coming in one at a time, being hit by several TR troops, and other TR MAXs and the fracture dude is being repaired constantly.

Problem?

Yeah Vanu have the best players but they're also the DUMBEST players in the world. The Mattherson VS have a TON of the top spots but the faction will LITERALLY sit there while an ESF hovers 10 meters over a crowd of 30 VS and pod farms them. They won't shoot back, they won't run for cover, they will just stand there like lemmings.

So the VS might have the best players on average, but they're nothing more than mindless lemmings. Hell I LITERALLY spent 10 minutes with an AV turret pounding an AMS while two engy's repaired it, WAITING for just ONE of the 5 Scythes farming the infantry around it, to help out and shoot the Sundy. Took them 10 freakin' minutes before ONE guy showed up to help destroy it. Of course we lost the base but those stupid pilots didn't seem to care because they wanted their 2 kills each (in that 10 minute span).

Just to be fair, if you get killed by an AT mine (outside of a vehicle exploding next to you), then you honestly deserve the death because that engy just flat out smarted you.

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WAit what? There was like 20+ infantry and a 2nd max holding the stairs along with a engineer camp repairing near the commentator. What is op about this? This is called team work. Everyone was coming in piece meal. Lol if this is a troll then I don't know what to tell you but what this is what it is " teamwork"

Agreed, I already said that, but they ignore this fact as blows up there argument. Again, its just another troll thread to nerf some of the TR. The irony is both other factions do have fantastic weapons yet the TR don't bleat about it.

At the doorway. The difference is, that whilst the NC MAX is waiting for Ravens to hit its target, the Fracture MAX is already killing his next target.

Probably right, just a troll or some guy who just want to ruin the game and make it bland. The guy who made this video is a good player, I don't own fractures but have used them here and there on my friends account. They are good but using it like this take a while to get used to. Other wise this was a perfect setting for it, another max helping out on the flank making enemies to choose a target Added with 20+ players guarding the flanks back and spawn camping. What the hell is the OP trying to prove? That team work and organization is op? Like... What? Lol what a baby penguin

I have double factures and 1v1 against the zoe I often bail out first but if I had an engi and 20 others shooting with me at ONE door I would also ramp up the kills. Maybe nerf team play eh?

What about an NC max? If he was more than 10m away and had slugs/ravens/falcons/hacksaws, would you be intimidated at all?

No you can never be as accurate and effective with a game-pad. There is a reason that you never ever see any even remotely good players use it and they all consoles rely on aim assist. You are slower and less accurate with a game pad. It's how they are made. You also never see mixed servers with console and PC players for the very same reason. The PC gamers would completely stomp the poor console players unless they got to keep their aim assist which would be very difficult to balance.

Yes good point. I try not to let them get that close or they shield up and charge and they have the advantage.

The thing is, most of the time maxes are grouped with infantry, so when that's all combined the argument, yours is better than mine, although seems important, comes slightly irreverent as team play and tactics take over as the video proved.

If your saying nerf the distance, then you need a big buff on damage.

You're missing my point. The critical feature of their defense in the video lies in their MAX units. If the NC were positioned in the exact same way, given the same conditions, we could not replicate it. What would we use? The ravens would not perform nearly as well in those conditions and the falcons don't have the RoF necessary to hold a door like that. Slugs might be able to hold the door vs infantry with that kind of positioning, but would be beaten by just about any MAX, particularly a fracture or ZOE MAX. Scattercannonns have a better RoF and better killing power <10m, but if the NC MAX's were positioned in the same way, the enemy would just have to be shooting them from outside their range. To challenge the enemy means we have to get close to the enemy, means we would have to take more vulnerable positions by the door. Even then, unless we're literally <5m away from the enemy MAX' we will lose due to our long reload times.

The problem with fractures is that they're great all purpose weapons, better at doing AI and anti-MAX (and AV, of course) than even the slugs are. If you saw the video, you'd see that the fractures were an essential part of their recipe for victory.

Hmmm. I believe a very similar argument being made by NC about their ScatterMaxes. At least they were designated AI and had a short range. But yes, you're right, the TR didnt bleat on about it. At all. For months. Now look at them; third best out of three, and only doing well because of the number of alerts which feed the "biolab" stats. And they're still only good against targets that come in one at a time.

OR the AI capabilities of the Phoenix; that wasn't really mentioned on these forums at all. Well, not after one week anyway when it got re-set to pure AV.

ZOE barely gets a passing thread a day, and of course it is mainly NC in these posts. And the GodSaw - what's that?

Fact is; if you thought we had something that was even strongly above average, there'd be threads on here moaning about it. Human nature. That there aren't means, on the whole, you don't think our weapons are better than yours - not that you're happy to horse trade good for bad!

Fractures aren't OP, AV MAXes vs infantry maybe are. Other factions just don't use them so you don't notice how OP it is for your faction. Take a look at this video and you'll see that the VS MAX can do the same thing and I'm pretty sure that NC MAX can do the same too.

I was looking for the updated stats on these. the only stats at GU9 show the NC max as a beast, but we know its not the case now, well at range. Without playing with an NC max I cant say what its like to use, but to play against, its still no walk over but its certainly way behind the Zoe and I would still say the TR is behind the Zoe, well that's my opinion when I play.

I do think the NC have great weapon's and I would certainly trade yes, but we all think the grass is greener don't we? As for the fractures, being good does not make them OP and that's my point. They are good, but I use max a lot and I get more kills with barrel guns than fractures and if im in the bio lab, I only bring out barrel guns.

Actually I use fracture in biolab to counter other maxes cause the TR max is underpowered against them in biolab. And this is the only reason I use them cause barrels are way more effective against infantry. When my outfit plans to go into a biolab we allways take at least 1 fracture max and 1 barrel max, Barrel max handles infantry spam and fracture max is here to take care of ennemy maxes. I barely never see other factions doing that and I think it's ridiculous that they don't use the tools the game offer then whine about the ones who use them.

tldr; AI TR max is underpowered against other maxes so we use AV max to kill them. Other factions can do the same but they prefer to whine instead.

I haven't seen anything a VS Max with dual comets could not do!
Did anyone notice that he couldnt hit the moving ZOE Maxes?
A NC Max would perform similarly in such a small room, only the reloads could get him into trouble (if he has no shield).

I will just leave this here: