Why do VS get 0.75 ADS LMG but other 2 factions dont??

Discussion in 'PlanetSide 2 Gameplay Discussion' started by greengrunt3, Aug 24, 2015.

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  1. greengrunt3

    it doesnt seem fair that VS heavies get to move faster while aiming down sights. I play TR heavy with 0.5 ADS on all the LMGs so im slower and easier to shoot compared to VS heavy assaults, and their LMG "Orion" and "Betelgeuse" have absolutely no drawback for this extra speed compared to other factions guns? where is the balancing here?? also VS is the only faction with anti vehicle weapons with high velocity and NO DROPOFF such as lancer for heavy and comet/vortex for max, making them the best faction for long range vehicle sniping, its ridiculous. These imbalances cause this faction to win more than any other which has a nasty effect that draws all the players who "must win in order to have fun" to this faction which then makes it over populated aswell.
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  2. pnkdth

    The removal of the ADS movement multiplier is on PTS(public test server), along with buffs to other less used LMGs. Hopefully we see them implemented soon.
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  3. OldMaster80


    It has been archived. They won't touch any LMG.
  4. pnkdth


    That's disappointing. Was looking forward to seeing a wider selection of competitive LMGs.
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  5. Ianneman


    Man, talk about bad business
  6. Eternaloptimist

    Oh, another thread about the ADS multiplyer. I guess its a faction diversity thing, or something. Take it away and you gotta replace it with something as there is still dakka (TR) and high damage rounds (NC). But why the fuss? It's on two weapons - OK, granted that one of them is the most popular VS weapon (the Orion/Battlegoose) but I reckon that could be as much to do with high RoF and accuracy in close combat as anything else. If you want ADS like VS then you can always buy the NS15.
  7. HmmOkay


    Please look up weapon stats before you start blabbing non-sense. Orion is not a straight upgrade over carv or MSW-R.

    Second, Lancer and Vortex do have damage dropoff and a max range as well. Comets don't, but they can be dodged easily due to horrible velocity.

    Third, your conclusion that these (incorrectly described) imbalances cause the VS to win is... shady at best. Please provide proof to back-up your claims.
  8. Naphemil

    why do nc get the jackhammer? why do the TR get the chaingun?
    I can ask stupid questions too!!!
  9. Zombo

    are they nerfing the MSW-R CoF as well?^^
    or does the Orion get an ALS?

    it doesnt outperform the Anchor or MSW-R, but still the orion gets a nerf, funny business

    also OP: every faction gets access to a 0.75 ADS LMG, the NS one
  10. Dgross

    Lancer/Vortex DO have dropoff.
    I'm not a Vanu fan but don't spread misinformation when you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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  11. Scr1nRusher


    Who knows it might come back.


    If not.... then the dev team proved they are cowards.
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  12. HadesR


    But not for free ...

    TBH if they are not going to statistically change any LMGs across the board then they should

    A) Take a closer looks at the Directive LMG's and bring them all in line with one another ...( Even if that means for example scrapping the Godsaw and giving the NC a Directive version of the Anchor )

    B) Change the Default LMG's to weapons that are more in line with the games combat situations ... Ie: All Default LMG's should be CQC orientated ...
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  13. Scr1nRusher

    0.75 ADS is something that doesn't belong on a LMG.
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  14. Goretzu


    It is certainly a strange one after all the work they did, and looked like it was done well too.
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  15. asmodraxus

    The same reason that TR get 40 round clip sizes on their carbines and assault rifles and NC get 200 damage tier, instagib max units etc.

    So VS should lose the 0.75 ADS on the BG, Orion and SV88 and then the TR should lose the 40 round clip sizes and NC should lose the instagib max units and 200 damage tier, oh and the VS should also lose the whole no bullet drop thing (we will take the normalized projectile velocity instead).
  16. Mxiter

    TR would reload faster and NC would have a better ROF.

    What would VS get for 0.75ads move mult without being a straight upgrade over MSW-R/CARV, Anchor and other directives LMGs?

    0.75ads move mult on high ROF LMG isn't a VS trait, it's a balance mistake. NS15M give up many firepower (worst autoweapon TTK) to get that gimmick.
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  17. lothbrook


    NC maxes can't do squat past 10m, while having the smallest mags and longest reloads and 200 damage weapons have low rate of fire and most have reduced mag size, its called tradeoffs, All of the TR weapons with 40 round mags have low damage per bullet and long reloads, whats the trade off for VS getting .75ADS on their LMGs again?
  18. asmodraxus

    Look at the ones its not on, they could be considered the trade off as they are inferior in almost every way that matters to their counterparts.
  19. lothbrook

    In other words you got nothing and are just being stupid as usual.
  20. asmodraxus

    Then answer this what is the downside of the Railjack?

    Don't bother saying the 0.25 delay in firing as you then have to compare that the the 1 second charge up of the Phaseshift.
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