Whats wrong with PPA?

Light PPA "Scythe": Can hit everything: tanks, galaxies, etc.
Proton PPA "Magrider": Can hit infantry / flashes only.
Wheres the logic here? the secondary weapon of a tank can't even hit a liberator, while the same weapon but "light" is awsomtasticly effective against everything?

If you get the explosive primaries nerfed, I will be very cross with you.
It's because they balanced the secondaries for tanks across all empires in more or less the same way (mostly because they were overperforming on the harasser). The name, at this point, is historical.

Sure, let's nerf the Light PPA, for the mere reason of sharing a name with your tank secondary. While we're at it, let's nerf the Saron laser cannon to a 6 shot mag with an expanding cof, to make it more similar in statistics to the MBT weapon that shares its name.


On a more serious note, the ESF AI primaries are not true counterparts to the MBT AI secondaries. The Banshee is in no way comparable to the Marauder, nor is the Airhammer really comparable to the Canister other than being a shotgun. In fact the Airhammer is more of an AV weapon than an AI, it just happens to be decent at killing infantry too.

Also, the Light PPA isn't awesome against everything, trying to do A2A with that weapon is pants-on-head silly.

but PPA dogfights are the best way to humiliate someone

The funniest thing in the sky is a Scythe chasing a Mossie/Reaver with Discoballs.

For ESF vs ESF sure, but the PPA is disgustingly effective at anti-liberator and anti-galaxy duty

I don't think he was asking for a nerv...
And yes the name could use a change

Get back to me with that after you figure out why the Marauder can't scratch enemy armor at all, not even Sunderers, yet the Fury is disgustingly effective against tanks.

I can't say I've noticed ever dying to a PPA scythe in either my Lib or Galaxy, even when flying them solo. But my server has many good pilots so the ESF AI options are generally a quick way to die without wingmates, unless you stick to overpopped farms. That and I'm pretty decent at A2A with my Lib and Galaxy.

'Balance'.

Lots of people complained that the Marauder was a better Fury, and the TR complained about the lack of variety for vehicle AI options, and the NC complained that their AI was just generally **** (which it was and probably still is), and the VS complained that their discoballs weren't big enough or something, so SOE decided to just blanket nerf it all.

So the TR still complain about the lack of variety, NC would still complain about theirs but I think they've just given up now, and the VS are still using their AI as its actually useful at range and at suppression unlike the other two. The only complaints SOE probably stopped are those that claim the Marauder is a better Fury, as the Fury was buffed quite a bit while the Marauder got a pretty heavy nerf to its usefulness. I mean, the Marauder is still good at killing infantry, but the Harasser got nerfed to **** so nobody sticks it on that anymore, and the Prowler is good enough at AI anyways, and generally needs an AV secondary to stand a chance against other tanks in CQC. The Fury still gets use though because of the Flash and Sunderer.

But my question is : really there is someone using light ppa on a scythe ??? Its garbage. All of others primary guns kills infantry and vehicle, and AIR, better then a light ppa. Of course you should have a good aim for infantry.

STOP using some kind of weird, and wrong real world logic on a game... *psst* it's not actually a saron laser cannon, it's som bits of code that they named to sound cool!

a tank shell destroys a real tank in a second, 1 bullet immobilizes infantry if not kills them, and an ESF with attack option would (and does) rule everything in the real world.... stop comparing it, it's a GAME

now you mention it...

NC: Airhammer: Shotgun, cannister: shotgun, Jackhammer: Shotgun

VS: PPA: DISCO BALLS, Light PPA: DISCO BALLS, Lasher: DISCO BALLS

TR: Banshee: Explosive bullet using chaingun, Marauder: explosive grenade launcher, T7 Mini chain gun: DAKKA without 'splosions QQ

Add explosive ammo to the MCG cuz it needs moar dakka

The PPA is probably the best of the ESF AI guns for doing it's primary role. It is as mentioned pretty bad in the air unless you are fighting whales or bad players but for everything else it's great.

It's super easy to aim, has splash, and can have an absurdly large clip size. If you used any other nosegun you would waste half the ammo on near misses (just by way of their CoF) unless you were hovering right above the ground. The PPA fires just fast enough to let you keep solid aim each shot, and can keep firing for a while.

Not to mention the fact that a PPA meshes with the MBT's in such a fluent/smooth way compared to the Marauder. I feel the PPA was designed with the MBTs in mind, whereas the Marauder was designed with the Harasser in mind (based off the fury of course). I would trade a Marauder for a PPA on my Prowler any day of the week at least.

The PPA is the best AI secondary because it has no drop and no range limitation.

The no drop is really important here because it gives you the explosive AOE of a grenade launcher like the Marauder, but the able to snipe HA playing peekaboo at higher elevations like the Kobalt.

If a Prowler is at the bottom of a hill trying to kill Infantry at the top, the Marauder will struggle because of the way it arcs.

Same situation in the Magrider, there is no struggle because the PPA can just shoot them off the top of the hill no problem.

Yes please Please PLEASE give me the Saron MBT secondary on my Scythe...

OMG the tears would be SOOO delicious

Saron for AV (and honestly not bad AI with good aim)... Imagine hits on Aircraft with it too

Hailstorm standard dogfighting nosegun

PPA for Infantry farming.

Oh god, I'd never leave my scythe again. Then all I need is a way to change loadouts as battles change

Another sick Vanu who love to lick other people's tears , that is just pathetic and sick, like every Connery VS in yell chat

The airhammer is also 500% better than our MBT secondary.... go figure.

While we're at it since there's two guns named Hailstorm clearly my TR SMG needs to be able to rapidly shoot down planes.

Enforcer C85 M - Infantry / Flashes
Marauder - Infantry / Flashes


Nothing seems wrong to me.