.. when appearantly there are no additional options to spec into? ( feel free to check https://forums.daybreakgames.com/ps2/index.php?threads/asp-and-cert-options.252299/ for ASP and cert option suggestions ) .. when the coregameplayloop is way too much of a grind for any non-member to reach the battlerank needed in a reasonable amount of time in the first place ? (again let players gain xp through damage dealt instead of kills by default, i don´t think this is too much too ask) .. when ASP refundtokens are ridiculously expensive cert or cashwise .. when generally the whole system is primarily geared towards top players that already spend hours and hours per day playing this game and non-members with jobs at best can only imagine some of the fun ASP combinations and then need to grind through those battleranks 3 times?..
I see your reasons for saying its tough to attain. Yet I'm also max rank ASP 2, saving for ASP 3 when I play, & prior to that I wasn't playing my vs main. Just my BR40 TR alt. Some guy made a thread asking to buy 100 boosts, so maybe it works to get part time players to buy some shop subs. Still ye many new players are BR 30 or so testing the game & staying as light assault or medics. So I see both sides. I already asked for my ASP wish list for & new stealth type for Bow with feather arrows and a new stealth utility type made for knifers. That's what I want more than anything else. Favorite request. https://forums.daybreakgames.com/ps...lternate-infiltrator-playstyles.260040/page-2 Every mmorpg has a grind tho. At least items don't effect pvp by stats alone, like WoW pvp 1 shots. & the new players are still able to kill asp players, even if the asp players have a 2ndary gun or grenade type. I agree the asp skills are overly simple & require more amusing options. None of the grenade access stuff sounds interesting. Nor discounted vehicles, even if useful. I wish smoke grenade access was free for my br40 tr alt. It took me years to max my vs main, tho I didn't buy boosts, nor subs, just 120$ or so worth of fashion items for vehicles or infil fashion. Bought the monthly sub two times over 6 years. Mainly just to unlock NSO. So ye I suppose if someone doesn't buy boosts it would take them 1 to 2 years to reach ASP. Or more depending on their play time & skill. As for a vet, well asp 3 gives me a reason to play the vs main some. Even tho I really want a Infil bow, new jump tool, trip wire, & better run speed bonuses for knifing. If the person has a job tho, sounds like they'll be able to buy subs & boost. I on the otherhand use to play this game like a job to get over my ex gf's unfaithfulness. New hotel job soon & have moved on. I do believe this game would be brilliant with some Valorant type abilities, added to the abilities they've always had. & I don't believe these type of abilities should be ASP abilities. Added default new player skills Overwatch style. Just more the merrier.
The reason is that you can not get everything with ASP 1, you dont have enough points. ASP 2 and 3 gives you more points so you can get more stuff... seems kinda obvious? You also gain xp through damage dealt as long as the target dies within a reasonable time, vehicles you get xp from damaging regardless if they die or not and then you get more IF they die even if you are not their killer. Not much to say about the grind since its a real grind, luckily you can get the more impactful perks with the first ASP with the 2nd and 3rd being mostly useful for the 'fun/silly' stuff. Like Sticky grenades for infiltrators, kinda pointless but a fun thing to use. Personally I think the ASP system should be active from the start, you gain 1 point every 25 levels or whatever it is so you can quickly get 2-3 points to use for the more high value ones then spend the ASP 1 points on more funny stuff instead. That could also open up for adding some new perks as well since everyone gets more points to spend.
Yes please. Legit suggestion. ASP from the start. That way everyone gets a 2ndary rifle for their main at least. Early. & then the devs add 8 more asp skills to the menu.