"VS is just better" is what your post comes down to. Which is clearly not the case in the aggregate. You guys have more top tier outfits then the other two, which is the key to winning Alerts in the end. The average VS are zerglings; the average VS is DaPP. Are you telling me that DaPP has inherently better strategic insight then PHX or AoD? I mean, really? VS has more above average players; they can swing equally sized fights very effectively; I've personally seen a half dozen AC members stop four times their number of NC or TR. Having at least three outfits capable of this to the NC and TR's what, one apiece? This swings alerts. Don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise. "Takes more brain cells then the typical TR or NC can use, it looks like." Brought up SPM and KDR because, ignoring top tier outfits, those are the best indicators of individual battle effectiveness, and on that front? The VS is average. You guys have more high tier outfits, you guys have more organization. That wins Alerts, sure, but that doesn't mean every VS is better inherently by dint of being VS, which is almost always the response in these threads to NC and TR whining about VS.