[Video] Proton PPA - Farmrider

Ok

There are plenty of players making assumptions about weapons pretending to know more about
it then they actually do, making full reviws with less than 1000 kills. I don't!

I don't have a lot of experience with the Proton II PPA but unlike many others, I am not pretending.

What I do bring up in the video is the relationship to air, many players with even less experience
then mine with PPA have very strong opinions about air telling us this and that about balance,
op weapons, easy mode and other random flame. This video shows, as an addition to many of
my other tank and MAX videos for example that there is little reason for all the constant "air flame".

Fact is, this video isn't all that serious, after over 550 YT videos of PS2 only I don't always make
statements. It was a few great runs, I got plenty of kills, certs and I'm just sharing it.

But my opinions about weapons like this is to most in the community well known.
I think the PPA is to effective for how easy it is to use, but that's my opinion and nothing
can change that. I'm not trying to convince you to agree, your opinion is your opinion and
I know these kill streaks dont happen all that often.

Most of the opinions in this thread has been that it is NC and TR that need simular weapons
buffed to be in par with the PPA. I disagree but I'm not trying to debate it, I'd just be repeating
myself.

And no, I don't disrespect you for having a different opinion then me. I think you overestimated
my "statement" with the video. At the same time, clearly showing exactly how much I have
used the weapon and how well it has preformed for me seemed relevant when I made it,
not only to avoid "Matti only farming" BS but as useful information that I have failed to share
in the past, was I wrong?

Bro.

We still don't want to hear you spend more than half the video complaining about how you're going to get hate your way for the videos you create. It's just not pleasant to listen to.

Again, the title we clicked on was, "Proton PPA". Not, "I HAVE HATERS, LISTEN TO ME ***** ABOUT THEM FOR THIS VIDEO /w special guest, the Proton PPA". If you're going to title it, "Proton PPA" Then you should be talking about what you're showcasing. Not your stupid persecution complex. Most of us don't care and don't want to hear it.

Oh, you again!

The video is less then five and a half minutes. If you are so disapointed why waste even more time here?
You just keep going on and on flaming.

Why don't you add something constructive yourself, obviously you missed the part where I
was actually asking for feedback from the you guys but I guess you are to busy showing
off your own ignorance instead.

I'm not asking you to do a full review.
What I do ask for oyu to do in the inevitable next video is to do more than give out your surface thoughts on a subject matter.
You think it's good/bad? Ok, that's fine, but at least tell people why. Base it on your gut feeling at the time if you must, but even that was lacking in this vid. You simply stated that you think it's a great AI gun (which it arguably is), and left it at that.

In this video you're at most throwing out a statement (that the PPA is up near the top as an AI gun, second only to the zepher), and ... not much else. You may discard this because the video isn't serious, but if that was the case you shouldn't make such broad statements and then act semi-surprised when people complain that the video is insubstantial. Because through the title and how you start the vid you set up the expectation that you'll have something -besides- the claim in your video.

Does it take more effort than what you've made? Yes, definitely, but if you did spend that extra time, while also keeping rants and weapon commentary strictly separated I'd be willing to wager that you'd see less of the hate.
But if you're not going to try that, I have no sympathy with your position as the archetypical sky-knight (and all the labels that come with such a title).

I gathered as much. But if that's the extent of it, berating people for their at times slap-dash claims about air would be hypocritical.
What you also need to remember is that given the sheer volume of videos you've posted, you can't assume that people will watch through it all to gather the bits and pieces that make up your opinion. That's just unreasonable.
Instead, you could use the newer videos brief summaries (you'd have to add more than what you put in this one), and while it potentially means less views for your YT account, you're actually left in a better position to convince others that you're right.
That doesn't mean that people will automatically bend over and expel their own previous thoughts in an instant, but it's a start.

Unless you're content with the current situation, where you're causing more drama/rage/hate for anyone besides a select few people.

If you're right, repeating it won't hurt.
Even if you seem to believe otherwise. Did it occur to you that this way of going about things is part of the reason for the flaming you get? If yes, why haven't you done anything about it?

You sure do have an interesting way of "not disrespecting".
There's also not much in that video I'd call "clear", except the over-arching claim that "the PPA is great at AI".

Several people including myself have already given you feedback on what they wanted to see, and what they didn't want to see on this video.

Just because you don't like the feedback, doesn't mean it's, "flaming".

If I were to sit here and call you a moron with an obnoxious accent, then yeah. That would be flaming.

Telling you that your interpretation of, "showcasing the proton PPA" was atrocious because you spent more than half the video crying about, "getting flamed", and that you weren't actually informative about the PPA because you were too busy going over your little persecution tangent is actually constructive criticism. You're seeing it as flaming. It's not. Take your head out of your *** for a few moments and maybe you'll see that.

You are right though, I am quite ignorant. I am ignorant about the Proton PPA, it's uses, numbers, and any special ways of using it.

BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT.

Waffle out.

You know the answer. History.

Ground went through a very dark time when AA wasn't there, base design was horrible and pilots were king for a long time. The buffs and changes to the air game have dug up feelings from certain vets of that time.

And bringing up the PPA to fight that is a bit silly.

According to DA..... Only the Top overall PPA gunner (Igster) would even crack the leaderboards. The 2nd overall gunner using PPA... can't even crack Top 100 of any of the rocket pods. We are talking 3-4 times as many kills historically. There are literally hundreds (Edit: 511 to be exact) of players with more infantry kills with rocket pods alone than the second place PPA gunner.

So yea, it's a nice video and a few nice runs of using the PPA in the exact circumstances its best at... but a couple hundred kills and a video doesn't compare to the history of air farming infantry. So, yeah. Using PPA for that argument... is just plain silly.

While Magriders have caused me a fair share of gnashing teeth in frustration - getting killed by PPA included - they are nowhere near the level of threat ESF and Liberators are at when one is just running/rolling around on the ground. As numerous people have already stated above, the thing is an outlier because it is the single ES AI on tanks that is actually effective at its stated job.

My jimmies may be rustled because of how easy it is to use when compared to the other two, but that has more to do with how equipping Marauder on your Prowler is a waste of time and weapon slot than anything. As for the tank shotgun... it supposedly received a buff not so long ago, but since I see no hide nor hair of it when I play, I guess things ain't sunshine and rainbows in the rebel camp either.

The video of the OP shows how effective a niche weapon can be when it is used in the corresponding niche.

The OP also hints that it is (too) powerful, although he does not literally say this. This is most evident when he shows his impressive stats of the PPA and refers to the discussion of the prenerf Vulcan and Marauder, both which were deemed too powerful. It is also a one-sided story as he does not show any encounters in which the setup is at a severe disadvantage, such as an encounter with an enemy MBT, an AV lib or an ESF.

I agree that the PPA is an effective niche weapon. I personally think we should have more of these niche weapons. The other ES weapons should be changed to reflect the state of the PPA.

This weapon is so beautiful.

And in four hours I got over 700 kills. ESF's favour a few high skill players and you really
have to be dedicated and know what you are doing to do well with them. I could have used PPA
and MAXes every day since launch, it's just boring cause there is nothing interesting about
these easy mode playstyles.

This is what "Balancing for skill" partly is about, it's called FOO strategies and they make the game boring.
At the same time, rocket pods, that is the highest killing weapon for ESF's, have been nerfed.
More players now have AA and AA is more powerful.

Do we have to make the same mistake letting other weapons be OP just because Rockets
Pods was in the past? Shouldn't we rather learn from previous mistakes?

The 700 kills in 4 hours only shows you know a magrider driver who knows when it is the perfect time to pull PPA.

Also, am I reading correctly you finally admit you find the PPA overpowered?

It shows that the enemies don't know how to counter one.

You could say the same thing about rocket pods... before nerf

I was wondering if you'd reply at all after that previous post of mine.
For that one I guess the answer was no.

There is a big difference between the two vehicles; It's much, MUCH easier to counter a tank than it is to counter an ESF.
Per player, I'm well aware of what 10 skyguards can do.

There is a major difference between the PPA and the Rocket Pods ... Pods are a general purpose weapon that were and still are very good against anything you can hit them with. Be that Infantry, Armor or Air.

The PPA is really only good against Infantry and partially usable against light Vehicles.

RocketPods are like a cannon version of a Basilisk. Good against pretty much anything and they still are ...

You do not seem to know or even understand what exactly has been nerfed about the pods. But I gladly give you a run down.

GU04 - 13th March 2013 "The Splash Nerf of all Vehicles"

GU01 - 12th December of 2012 "First patch ever"

That is all which is officially mention in the patch notes ...

However there are some unofficial notes aswell, they added a slight cone to it after the change of all Vehicle projectiles to originate from the first person camera to simulate the fact that you were firing from un aligned pods. And somewhere a slight gravity and acceleration addition.

That is everything that has changed about the pods themselves. Where are those huge nerfs you speak off?

I can tell you what has changed, Tanks got their rear plugged and Infantry FLAK armor has been buffed from 25% to 50% and later to also include direct hits. Changes that pretty much applied to everybody ...

Stop whining about your pods, they are still fine ... the only thing really nerfed as a general purpose weapon were the rotaries and that was in PU02 ... the only recent change to ESFs.

You should take a look at the nerfs through which Tanks have gone ...

Matti only want to drive his ESF agenda as usual.

Lots of kill in the video but how did you survive so long in a battle like that?

You were so close and rarely received a rocket or anything lol

PPA is powerful but vanu is the lowest population of all the factions... LETS NERF THEM MUHAHHA /sarcasm

It's a repeating point with a lot of his vids: The victims are seemingly brain dead, not knowing what options they have available to them to deter threats. Which is extremely obvious when he posts tank vids.
More often than not I flat out don't recognise the situations he gets into, given the lack of decent opposition.

I'm aware that I just insulted Cobalt here, but so be it.

And then he uses situations with him flying in an ESF and not caring whatsoever about taking fire, and then complains he is shot down after 5 seconds of continuous fire, and after he could've escaped the situation for a good 7-8 seconds. Nothing new to see here

An how many vehicle kills did you get with the PPA? Since the rocket pods aren't only killing infantry, they are also destroying vehicles (are and were), such a parameter is also useful!

Like the others wrote, please do make a list of the nerfs to Pods, and then compare with a list of nerfs to tanks for instance. It would then be interesting to see what you meant when you wrote that Pods have been nerfed.

I have a good idea to nerf - just reduce the ammo per magazine make it 7 or 8